Does Toriyama remember Bra?

miguelnuva1 · Post by **miguelnuva1** » Mon May 23, 2016 4:15 am

I see she's in the new Dragon Ball fusion game but is it getting too late for her to be born in Super or is there atill hope.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Mon May 23, 2016 4:36 am

I'm certain Bra is coming soon. There's been an excess of VegeBul as of late and Vegeta's pretty much dumped Gokû (whose friendship with him was eating up all of Vegeta's spare time).

I do think that's all probably prep work for Bra.

Alruneia · Post by **Alruneia** » Mon May 23, 2016 7:38 am

miguelnuva1 wrote:I see she's in the new Dragon Ball fusion game

...oh wow, you're right, GT Bulla and a GT-based Bran are in the game. That's amazing.

To your question, I wouldn't worry about Bulla just yet. Since Goten, Trunks and Marron aren't growing up, we're still not closing in on EoZ all that much. Ignore the wish Bulma made to Shenron in the beginning of the Universe 6 arc (it wasn't in the manga) and you'll be able to still put us in Age 779. I know I'm telling you to ignore part of the show here, but it is a convenient excuse to avoid timeline issues such as Bulla's birth. However, I don't think she'll appear until after the upcoming Future Trunks arc. Maybe Bulma will be revealed to be pregnant during the arc, but I definitely wouldn't expect anything more than that. The window is still open afterwards, though, so there is still hope.

miguelnuva1 · Post by **miguelnuva1** » Mon May 23, 2016 8:24 am

Ok were still in Age 779. I hope they just make her a newborn when we start the Trunks arc.

Kuririn Fan · Post by **Kuririn Fan** » Mon May 23, 2016 9:19 am

I think he remembers her, he was rereading the manga before he wrote the BoG script. She will appear soon and i think this new arc would be a perfect time for that because of Future Trunks.

TekTheNinja · Post by **TekTheNinja** » Mon May 23, 2016 11:11 am

She'd better be in the Trunks arc, or I may just lose patience for her existence.

Kanassa · Post by **Kanassa** » Mon May 23, 2016 1:13 pm

I was going to ask 'Bra who?', but then it clicked. Was she ever that important of a character? Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Toriyama retcons the timeline for EoZ.

Kuririn Fan · Post by **Kuririn Fan** » Mon May 23, 2016 1:53 pm

Kanassa wrote:I was going to ask 'Bra who?', but then it clicked. Was she ever that important of a character? Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Toriyama retcons the timeline for EoZ.

He won't. He said that he set all these stories before the end because Kuririn and Bulma are too old in it. So the ending definitely stays.
There's also this:
"Toriyama:
I agree. Rather than continuing on strangely into the future, or digging deeper, I’d rather develop it with something like a separate episode, going back in time to say, “there was such-and-such a story, involving such-and-such an opponent”. As in, it wasn’t in the comic, but this kind of thing also happened. I think that’d probably be better."

Post by **TheDevilsCorpse** » Mon May 23, 2016 2:16 pm

Why is it always only A or B with fans? I'm not saying he even will, but Toriyama doesn't have to change everything to retcon the ending (he's already done it before from the tankobon and the kanzenban). It could be as simple as wiping Bra from existence and or changing Goku's dialogue to or about Oob. The characters that are too old can still be old in the new version of events...

Low Tone G · Post by **Low Tone G** » Mon May 23, 2016 2:52 pm

If Bra won't be born why would miss her for some reason...

Smilodon · Post by **Smilodon** » Mon May 23, 2016 3:30 pm

He doesn't remember Bardock...Why would he remember Bra?

Gyt Kaliba · Post by **Gyt Kaliba** » Mon May 23, 2016 3:32 pm

He just wrote an entire special chapter about Bardock just a few years ago. It's quality is contested, yes, but it exists. Pretty sure he remembers Bardock.

As for Bra though...the jury is still out on that one, but I have high hopes.

Marco Polo · Post by **Marco Polo** » Mon May 23, 2016 6:32 pm

Kanassa wrote:I was going to ask 'Bra who?', but then it clicked. Was she ever that important of a character? Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Toriyama retcons the timeline for EoZ.

She was very minor. Basically a background character.

They could retcon her into being Future Trunks' daughter for all we know.

MozillaVulpix · Post by **MozillaVulpix** » Mon May 23, 2016 6:52 pm

Even if Toriyama doesn't remember her, I'm certain at least SOME people at Toei remember her.

She might just show up after a time-skip, even if Toriyama never wrote her in the outline. It's not she'd be that plot-relevant, anyway.

Faisal Shourov · Post by **Faisal Shourov** » Tue May 24, 2016 12:08 pm

If Bra is not born it won't affect the story in any way.

TheShadowEmperor8055 · Post by **TheShadowEmperor8055** » Tue May 24, 2016 12:57 pm

Marco Polo wrote: She was very minor. Basically a background character.

They could retcon her into being Future Trunks' daughter for all we know.

Why would they do that?

Marco Polo · Post by **Marco Polo** » Tue May 24, 2016 1:07 pm

TheShadowEmperor8055 wrote:
Marco Polo wrote: She was very minor. Basically a background character.

They could retcon her into being Future Trunks' daughter for all we know.
Why would they do that?

Some people say it's a plothole that Bra hasn't been born yet at the time of Super and that she should already be like 1 or 2 years old.

Low Tone G · Post by **Low Tone G** » Tue May 24, 2016 2:45 pm

Marco Polo wrote:
Kanassa wrote:I was going to ask 'Bra who?', but then it clicked. Was she ever that important of a character? Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Toriyama retcons the timeline for EoZ.
She was very minor. Basically a background character.

They could retcon her into being Future Trunks' daughter for all we know.

This the best idea as I think about it... Bulma is older than Goku and she still hasn't any chances to become a grandma anytime soon, so a Trunks having a daughter in the future it's quite reasonable.
Yes, Bra should be Trunks' daughter.

Kuririn Fan · Post by **Kuririn Fan** » Tue May 24, 2016 2:47 pm

Marco Polo wrote:
TheShadowEmperor8055 wrote:
Marco Polo wrote: She was very minor. Basically a background character.

They could retcon her into being Future Trunks' daughter for all we know.
Why would they do that?
Some people say it's a plothole that Bra hasn't been born yet at the time of Super and that she should already be like 1 or 2 years old.

She really shouldn't, she's 1 year younger than Pan.

Kuririn Fan · Post by **Kuririn Fan** » Tue May 24, 2016 2:50 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Why is it always only A or B with fans? I'm not saying he even will, but Toriyama doesn't have to change everything to retcon the ending (he's already done it before from the tankobon and the kanzenban). It could be as simple as wiping Bra from existence and or changing Goku's dialogue to or about Oob. The characters that are too old can still be old in the new version of events...

And that's why i don't like Kanzenban additions, there's no reason to change the ending and i don't think he will.

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