Gotenks the fodder

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Gotenks the fodder

Post by Kishido » Sun Jun 19, 2016 5:43 am

First Cabba owns him feat wise and now Future Trunks

Hell he is close to being handled as bad as Gohan...

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Re: Gotenks the fodder

Post by MCDaveG » Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:03 am

I kinda don't understand the opening post, but yeah, I am already saying this for years and feel you.
Since the new videogames and after 2008 OAV special, Goten and Trunks are just Gotenks fodder, whom gets slapped on his ass seconds after emerging.
They were my favorite characters when I was a kid! :(
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Re: Gotenks the fodder

Post by Kishido » Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:04 pm

MCDaveG wrote:I kinda don't understand the opening post, but yeah, I am already saying this for years and feel you.
Since the new videogames and after 2008 OAV special, Goten and Trunks are just Gotenks fodder, whom gets slapped on his ass seconds after emerging.
They were my favorite characters when I was a kid! :(
Read it again...

Gotenks was spanked and LOLed at by Copy Vegeta in BASE... Cabba in Base was shown to be a bit of a problem for Base Vegeta and next chapter SSJ Trunks against SSJ Goku

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Re: Gotenks the fodder

Post by HeroR » Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:06 pm

Kishido wrote:
MCDaveG wrote:I kinda don't understand the opening post, but yeah, I am already saying this for years and feel you.
Since the new videogames and after 2008 OAV special, Goten and Trunks are just Gotenks fodder, whom gets slapped on his ass seconds after emerging.
They were my favorite characters when I was a kid! :(
Read it again...

Gotenks was spanked and LOLed at by Copy Vegeta in BASE... Cabba in Base was shown to be a bit of a problem for Base Vegeta and next chapter SSJ Trunks against SSJ Goku
We gave no context for Goku and Trunks going Super Saiyan. I thought Super have taught us not to trust their previews, otherwise Goku went Super Saiyan against Botoma.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Re: Gotenks the fodder

Post by Kishido » Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:18 pm

HeroR wrote:
Kishido wrote:
MCDaveG wrote:I kinda don't understand the opening post, but yeah, I am already saying this for years and feel you.
Since the new videogames and after 2008 OAV special, Goten and Trunks are just Gotenks fodder, whom gets slapped on his ass seconds after emerging.
They were my favorite characters when I was a kid! :(
Read it again...

Gotenks was spanked and LOLed at by Copy Vegeta in BASE... Cabba in Base was shown to be a bit of a problem for Base Vegeta and next chapter SSJ Trunks against SSJ Goku
We gave no context for Goku and Trunks going Super Saiyan. I thought Super have taught us not to trust their previews, otherwise Goku went Super Saiyan against Botoma.
Do you want to bet?

And even if base Trunks will be able to give a bit of effort to Base Goku... it would not change a thing

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Re: Gotenks the fodder

Post by HeroR » Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:35 pm

[quote="Kishido"

Do you want to bet?

And even if base Trunks will be able to give a bit of effort to Base Goku... it would not change a thing[/quote]

We've literally have not seen the scene outside of edit cuts. Super's previews are known to be untrustworthy. I mean, just this recent episode proved that since the way it was said last week, Goku and Vegeta should be heading to the future.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Re: Gotenks the fodder

Post by Kishido » Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:37 pm

HeroR wrote:[quote="Kishido"

Do you want to bet?

And even if base Trunks will be able to give a bit of effort to Base Goku... it would not change a thing
We've literally have not seen the scene outside of edit cuts. Super's previews are known to be untrustworthy. I mean, just this recent episode proved that since the way it was said last week, Goku and Vegeta should be heading to the future.[/quote]

Again in changes nothing about this thread... Even if next chapter we see Future Tunks as Super Saiyan being beaten by Base Goku it doesn't change the fact that we still do not need or think to believe that Super Saiyan THREE Gotenks is stronger...

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Re: Gotenks the fodder

Post by ChronoTwigger » Sun Jun 19, 2016 6:38 pm

Scouters and Frieza aliens brainwashed people minds...

Let's see it from a logic POV.
Vegeta fight a feeble Cabba.
Cabba suddenly turn SSJ and increase his strenght beyond what Vegeta predicted. Turning from a timid guy into aggressive and technical.
"Nice, but that's not enough", and Vegeta pawned him away with a blow.

Gotenks fight with an enraged, willing to kill BEYOND GOD Vegeta (you forgot is the equivalent of a fair match with Beerus, that pawned SSJ3 with a TOUCH).

Trunks deliver a full powered, enraged punch to Goku, that Goku stop so easily...

In the NEP, you only see Goku turning SSJ. Why? Easily. To show Trunks he's the original Goku.
There's no hint about ANY fight between the two, or any hint this fight will be fair.
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Re: Gotenks the fodder

Post by MCDaveG » Sun Jun 19, 2016 6:56 pm

ChronoTwigger wrote:Scouters and Frieza aliens brainwashed people minds...

Let's see it from a logic POV.
Vegeta fight a feeble Cabba.
Cabba suddenly turn SSJ and increase his strenght beyond what Vegeta predicted. Turning from a timid guy into aggressive and technical.
"Nice, but that's not enough", and Vegeta pawned him away with a blow.

Gotenks fight with an enraged, willing to kill BEYOND GOD Vegeta (you forgot is the equivalent of a fair match with Beerus, that pawned SSJ3 with a TOUCH).

Trunks deliver a full powered, enraged punch to Goku, that Goku stop so easily...

In the NEP, you only see Goku turning SSJ. Why? Easily. To show Trunks he's the original Goku.
There's no hint about ANY fight between the two, or any hint this fight will be fair.
Thanks man, good points :)
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Re: Gotenks the fodder

Post by dbzfan7 » Sun Jun 19, 2016 6:57 pm

You see the two clashing, literally. So they do fight. The rest you can judge as you will.
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Re: Gotenks the fodder

Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:20 pm

I think it's a bit too premature to consider Gotenks fodder. Cabba never did anything all that impressive, so I don't get where the notion that Cabba "owned" him feat wise.

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