Is he actually good at his job or does he just have it because he's the strongest? Everyone seems more afraid of than respectful of him, and consider these points:
- He's the one who appoints the Hakaishin. Even though they are supposed to be necessary, they do kill many many innocent people. Couldn't he have instituted a rule that Hakaishin can only destroy uninhabited planets or something?
- He supposedly uses his powers to destroy evil, but we've never seen him intervene and stop any evil, even ones that have committed mass genocide.
- He destroyed 6 of the original 18 universes (and presumably everyone in them) just because he was upset at them. Is it really plausible that everyone in all of those universes was irredeemably evil? I already mentioned the point about the Hakaishin so we know that he condones killing innocents as he gives people the jobs to do that. Whis hinted that he destroyed those universes just because he was annoyed at something, i.e. something comparable to Beerus not getting pudding. Can you imagine if, for example, a US President dropped nukes on 17 of the 50 states just because they did something to annoy him? You wouldn't call someone who did that a good president.
So based on this, would you consider him a corrupt and evil ruler?
Is Omni-King a bad ruler? (DBS Spoilers)
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Re: Is Omni-King a bad ruler? (DBS Spoilers)
Comes down to the old debate if humankind has the right to challenge God.
Also, from Omni's opinion, destroying things may not be "evil." That's a moral value that humankind has determined.
So, it's hard to say if this God is a "bad ruler." From our values as humans... Yeah, he's pretty bad. But, does a human have the right to say that about an all powerful God? Does a fly's opinion matter compared to a human's? Humans swat flies. Omni-King swats humans.
It's a good discussion with no right answer.
However, it is a fact that this is the face of genocide:
[spoiler]
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Also, from Omni's opinion, destroying things may not be "evil." That's a moral value that humankind has determined.
So, it's hard to say if this God is a "bad ruler." From our values as humans... Yeah, he's pretty bad. But, does a human have the right to say that about an all powerful God? Does a fly's opinion matter compared to a human's? Humans swat flies. Omni-King swats humans.
It's a good discussion with no right answer.
However, it is a fact that this is the face of genocide:
[spoiler]
[/spoiler]Re: Is Omni-King a bad ruler? (DBS Spoilers)
From what I gather the only thing that matters in Dragon Ball is balance. That's why we have Kaioshin's who create life and Hakaishins who destroy it. Gods do not acknowledged concepts like Good or Evil, that's a human creation. All that matters is balance.
Which is why I think the third point you mentioned was thoughtless hype by the anime writers. Destroying a third of existence over a fit doesn't scream out balance. The Omni-King appears to care about this balance, warning Beerus and Whis about properly doing their job. Vados and Whis also serve as fail-safe mechanisms to deter exaggerated destruction. There appears to be a system in place.
I don't think the Omni-King would "do evil" he might, like Beerus, from his godly position despise and destroy a whole civilization due to selfish reasons. An act that endangers the balance, I do not see it happen.
Even the Kaioshin, who's supposed to be good, could one-shot Freeza and did nothing about it. Boo on the other hand was a danger to the Kaioshins and the balance, with his unprecedented destruction.
Even Goku said he didn't seem like a bad guy. The first thing that popped into my mind, when I saw him, as a young King/Emperor type. By the end of this arc, I think the Omni-King will forgive Trunks for his crimes, due to his help in stopping Black.
Which is why I think the third point you mentioned was thoughtless hype by the anime writers. Destroying a third of existence over a fit doesn't scream out balance. The Omni-King appears to care about this balance, warning Beerus and Whis about properly doing their job. Vados and Whis also serve as fail-safe mechanisms to deter exaggerated destruction. There appears to be a system in place.
I don't think the Omni-King would "do evil" he might, like Beerus, from his godly position despise and destroy a whole civilization due to selfish reasons. An act that endangers the balance, I do not see it happen.
Even the Kaioshin, who's supposed to be good, could one-shot Freeza and did nothing about it. Boo on the other hand was a danger to the Kaioshins and the balance, with his unprecedented destruction.
Even Goku said he didn't seem like a bad guy. The first thing that popped into my mind, when I saw him, as a young King/Emperor type. By the end of this arc, I think the Omni-King will forgive Trunks for his crimes, due to his help in stopping Black.
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Re: Is Omni-King a bad ruler? (DBS Spoilers)
I've never subscribed to the might makes right philosophy. That's one of the reasons why I like Doctor Who so much - the Doctor always takes on super powerful beings who think that their power gives them the right to abuse, control, torture and murder others, and he never buys that argument and shows them the consequences of their actions, sometimes by force if necessary. It doesn't matter if you're a human, an alien, a god, or whatever, that doesn't give you the right to enslave or kill others just because they're weaker than you.Gold_Jacobson wrote:Comes down to the old debate if humankind has the right to challenge God.
Also, from Omni's opinion, destroying things may not be "evil." That's a moral value that humankind has determined.
So, it's hard to say if this God is a "bad ruler." From our values as humans... Yeah, he's pretty bad. But, does a human have the right to say that about an all powerful God? Does a fly's opinion matter compared to a human's? Humans swat flies. Omni-King swats humans.
It's a good discussion with no right answer.
However, it is a fact that this is the face of genocide:
[spoiler][/spoiler]
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Re: Is Omni-King a bad ruler? (DBS Spoilers)
I agree, as most people would. I was just trying to frame the discussion as Omni-King's genocide... being justified... that makes me sound evil. Haha.Polyphase Avatron wrote:I've never subscribed to the might makes right philosophy. That's one of the reasons why I like Doctor Who so much - the Doctor always takes on super powerful beings who think that their power gives them the right to abuse, control, torture and murder others, and he never buys that argument and shows them the consequences of their actions, sometimes by force if necessary. It doesn't matter if you're a human, an alien, a god, or whatever, that doesn't give you the right to enslave or kill others just because they're weaker than you.Gold_Jacobson wrote:Comes down to the old debate if humankind has the right to challenge God.
Also, from Omni's opinion, destroying things may not be "evil." That's a moral value that humankind has determined.
So, it's hard to say if this God is a "bad ruler." From our values as humans... Yeah, he's pretty bad. But, does a human have the right to say that about an all powerful God? Does a fly's opinion matter compared to a human's? Humans swat flies. Omni-King swats humans.
It's a good discussion with no right answer.
However, it is a fact that this is the face of genocide:
[spoiler][/spoiler]
Just trying to make sure Omni-King has a lawyer.


