(Spoilers) Who is Future Zamasu?

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(Spoilers) Who is Future Zamasu?

Post by Doctor. » Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:27 pm

Following the spoilers of episode 60, being that Beerus apparently kills present Zamasu, we can interpret two things from this: 1) that they thought the two Zamasus are the same being, and 2) due to Trunks feeling "uneasy", it's implied that future Zamasu still lives. In my eyes, there are three possible theories about the identity of future Zamasu:

1) He is a future version of the Zamasu we know now. Killing the present Zamasu would stop the future version from existing, so perhaps present Zamasu survives Beerus' attack, which allows him to turn into the Zamasu of the future. This creates a time paradox, because without the future Zamasu, Black would never come to the present, would never incite Goku to go fight Zamasu, etc.

2) He is a future version of the Zamasu we know now, but killing the present Zamasu won't affect him, perhaps because he's in a different timeline, universe or he's now his own seperate entity. Still a time paradox.

3) He is the Zamasu of Trunks' timeline, gone rogue because of similar circumstances the present Zamasu went through. Killing the present one obviously won't affect him since they were different entities to begin with. No time paradox because future Zamasu and Black would still exist regardless of whether or not present Goku met present Zamasu.

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Re: (Spoilers) Who is Future Zamasu?

Post by sailorspazz » Sun Sep 11, 2016 3:44 am

I've been thinking it's the first one, though with Zamasu (as far as we know) not yet wishing for immortality, I wonder how he'll survive Beerus' attack? You'd think that as soon as they witness him making a move toward killing Gowasu (with poisoned tea?) they'll teleport right back there to stop him, so it would be very difficult for him to snatch Gowasu's earrings and get out of there to make his wish before Beerus and the gang showed up to stop him. Unless he asked even more questions from Zunou than we were shown, found out about the Namekian Dragon Balls, and used those to wish for immortality already? Though with all the emphasis on the Super Dragon Balls, admittedly that seems like a stretch...

A lot of confusion arises from two different methods of time travel being used. I feel like if the present Zamasu is the same one we saw in the future, then he can't possibly die before he travels to that timeline. Because how could he be in that timeline if he never had the chance to go? If he actually dies but is still the same one that's in the future, I feel like there's a paradox there that I can't quite wrap my mind around :crazy:

Him being the actual Zamasu from that future timeline seems less likely due to things like his grudge against Gokuu, whom he would've never met (but then again, could've possibly met in the afterlife?) But I wouldn't rule it out at this point, since there're still more mysteries to unfold in this arc.

Whichever one he ends up being, I just hope that everything makes sense, and the paradox stuff doesn't get too crazy (I'm already ready to accept the causal loop of how Zamasu/Black came to be who they are, so I really hope it isn't complicated even further...)
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Re: (Spoilers) Who is Future Zamasu?

Post by vilker » Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:47 am

I think there are 3 differents Zamasus:


Zamasu 1 (Present): Main timeline. Fight Goku on his planet. He won't ask desires to Super Shenron because Bills will destroy him.

Zamasu 2 (Inmortal): From an alternative timeline where Trunks never traveled to warn of the arrival of Black. This Zamasu didn't meet Goku in his planet because Goku didn't go with Bills. Instead itself apparently happened that Gowasu saw on Kamitube fighting Goku vs Hit and Zamasu learned about the super dragon balls. This Zamasu would ask the super shenron for an immortal body and would have traveled to the Trunks timeline with the green ring. Zamasu 2 meets Goku watching it on Kamitube, but Goku never knew anything about Zamasu, Bills and Whiss neither, so this Zamasu had the free way to kill Gowasu and make wishes.

Zamasu 3 (Black): From Trunks timeline. This Zamasu never met Goku because He died of heart disease, but met Zamasu 2 ask to super shenron of this timeline to put his soul in the Goku copy body. That's the reason why Bills feels a similar energy. He has the silver ring from his timeline, if He was from another timeline should have the green ring.

Now Zamasu 1 will be killed by Bills before He does nothing, but this situation doesn't affect to Zamasu 2 and Zamasu 3.

Whenever Goku has clashed forces with any Zamasu, He noticed in his energy something different, this would have an explanation like the tea. Zamasu has lived different experiences in the 3 timelines and therefore has different feelings against Goku:
-The First Zamasu wasn't still corrupted.
-The Second Zamasu hates humans but specially hates Goku to attain the level of Gods and associate with them.
-The Third Zamasu only hates humans and Goku as a human's, but wants an ideal world like the other one (shared goals).

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