Did any dub try to censor General Blue's sexuality?

[Kid Buu]

Wondering if any dub try to cover up General Blue being gay? Personally I have nothing against with Blue being gay, but I know some kid cartoons have had that censored in the past, like Uranus & Neptune in the US dub of Sailor Moon. So I'm wondering how the other dubs of Dragon Ball handled General Blue.

[email2003]

I think FUNi censored General Blue's sexuality but I can confirm after watching the Spanish (Mexican) version of DragonBall, they too censored Blue's sexuality. There were moments but they managed to change his dialogue and cut some scenes too.

[Metalwario64]

Yeah. They kind of left some vague-ish hints of it, but it's mostly outright changed, especially in the Dr. Slump episode where he goes from thinking the kid is attractive to thinking he's his long lost brother (which I find way more amusing for all of the wrong reasons. )

[LordCrumb]

He's certainly still Gay in the English version, but as Metalwario64, they did change him from being a Pedo, which I think was a good move.. it's dodgy even in the original version.

[Tian]

I remember he was treated as a woman on the Greek dub.

[floofychan333]

FUNimation did and did a good job of it. Portraying a homosexual character as creepy and twisted (looking at Obotchaman incident) is extremely offensive. Blue's portrayal certainly wasn't out of the ordinary in the 1980's but it deserves some criticism today and FUNimation deserves credit for how they handled it.

[Valerius Dover]

At the very least, he's still VERY camp in the dub, such as mentioning that he should've brought his bikini trunks and of course freaking out when Bulma nudges up to him.

[Dbzfan94]

FUNimation did and did a good job of it. Portraying a homosexual character as creepy and twisted (looking at Obotchaman incident) is extremely offensive. Blue's portrayal certainly wasn't out of the ordinary in the 1980's but it deserves some criticism today and FUNimation deserves credit for how they handled it.

For what they had to work with I agree. The gay part is fine but Toei took it too far with making him a pedophile

[ShaneisMC]

To be fair, I mean just because the majority of homosexuals aren't pedophiles doesn't mean gay pedophiles don't exist of course. Same as any other identifications. I'm not saying that there wasn't prejudiced intent, but I'd also add in that it's not completely fair to jump immediately onto the Social Justice bandwagon either. General Blue is his own character. Unless there's evidence to suggest otherwise I would continue moving forward assuming that he was created and portrayed in whatever ways that he was as a part of his personally crafted persona. But that's just an insomniacs perspective. So :p

[Cipher]

To be fair, I mean just because the majority of homosexuals aren't pedophiles doesn't mean gay pedophiles don't exist of course. Same as any other identifications. I'm not saying that there wasn't prejudiced intent, but I'd also add in that it's not completely fair to jump immediately onto the Social Justice bandwagon either. General Blue is his own character. Unless there's evidence to suggest otherwise I would continue moving forward assuming that he was created and portrayed in whatever ways that he was as a part of his personally crafted persona. But that's just an insomniacs perspective. So :p

As with all things, context matters. Including a homosexual pedophile isn't necessarily offensive in and of itself (that's a weird thing to type), but as an added element to Blue, who is both the only openly gay "major" character in Dragon Ball, and whose sexuality is largely played up as a camp element, it reads as pretty thoughtless and cruel, and does reflect badly on the series.

I'm pro-FUNimation skirting around that one, for what it's worth. It might singularly be the worst addition Toei made to the series.

[ShaneisMC]

The pedo part I don't particularly have much of an opinion on. I can't and of course won't try to speak for anyone other than myself. For me personally I have a difficult time trying to put myself in someone else's shoes here. Though to be fair I'm usually very difficult to offend. I can totally understand something blatantly trying to be offensive but even then again just me personally I don't "usually" care. Someone else trying to be a douchebag is for me just another random opinion that only has as much value as I give to it. That being said of course I certainly don't wish to hear that others were bothered by anything and I would give due sympathy. As for Funimation skirting around him being a homosexual in general by replacing lines like Bulmas questioning it, and then instead of telling him that she's a man and saying something about I believe being a sumo wrestler, I'm not particularly a fan of. That part was in the comic and neither are offensive unless I'm mistaken. Not to mention that if they were insisting on replacing the "I'm a man" line... Maybe it's just me but the sumo wrestler line was a pretty lame substitute I felt.

[Cipher]

^I was speaking solely about the pedophilic scene with Obatchaman (which is only in the anime). FUNimation skirted around that, and I have zero problems with them doing so.

I honestly can't remember how FUNimation's dub handles his sexuality in general, and whether it's as explicit about it as the manga and Japanese anime script are. Blue's not the most nuanced portrayal of a gay character (again, his sexuality is basically mined for camp), but he's surprisingly not awful for 1980s Japan, and it's also not great to simply pretend gay people don't exist, as U.S. kids' TV is in the habit of doing. That's a case where I'd simply say stick to the original script.

[nickzambuto]

Honestly, I didn't see the big deal with Blue being attracted to Obotchaman. It might make him a pedophile, but it wasn't in a creepy or negative way... if that makes sense. Like, he wasn't looking to rape the kid. He said Obotchaman was "his type" and actually wanted to take the kid out on a date. That's much more gentlemanly than the term "pedophile" would imply. I actually thought it was funny.

[jjgp1112]

The Funi dub took out his pedophilia...which, let's be honest, was a good call.

[Dbzfan94]

Honestly, I didn't see the big deal with Blue being attracted to Obotchaman. It might make him a pedophile, but it wasn't in a creepy or negative way... if that makes sense. Like, he wasn't looking to rape the kid. He said Obotchaman was "his type" and actually wanted to take the kid out on a date. That's much more gentlemanly than the term "pedophile" would imply. I actually thought it was funny.

If a grown man sees a child as "his type" that's immediate grounds for pedophilia considering Blue tried to kiss him right after thinking that
Pedophilia isn't strictly raping kids

[Polyphase Avatron]

Gay pedophiles exist, and so do violent black thugs, greedy miserly Jews, incestuous white rednecks, etc. But portraying characters like that feeds into the negative stereotypes.

[JulieYBM]

I find it interesting that Dragon Ball Episode #7 and Episode #56 are both written by Inoue Toshiki. Episode #7 has a scene of Yamcha saying where he says "I'm no lolicon" while Episode #56 of course has the scene with Blue. This leads me to wonder if Inoue was a lolicon and/or a shoutacon or hated them?

[FoolsGil]

Yeah, in the Dr Slump Crossover he looks at Obatchaman and the dub stated that he thought that was his long lost brother Samuel.

To be honest, it made me really sad as a kid when Tao killed Blue. I felt SO bad for Samuel. Lost in the world and now has no other living relative. Dammit Funi you gave me the feels with a cheap dub change!

[Nightmare Wheel]

I find it interesting that Dragon Ball Episode #7 and Episode #56 are both written by Inoue Toshiki. Episode #7 has a scene of Yamcha saying where he says "I'm no lolicon" while Episode #56 of course has the scene with Blue. This leads me to wonder if Inoue was a lolicon and/or a shoutacon or hated them?

I'm pretty sure the lolicon line was in the manga.

[JulieYBM]

I find it interesting that Dragon Ball Episode #7 and Episode #56 are both written by Inoue Toshiki. Episode #7 has a scene of Yamcha saying where he says "I'm no lolicon" while Episode #56 of course has the scene with Blue. This leads me to wonder if Inoue was a lolicon and/or a shoutacon or hated them?

I'm pretty sure the lolicon line was in the manga.

Aha, it seems you are correct. Funny how Chichi's facial expression in that panel is also rather lewd if you remove the dizzy swirl above her head...