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increasing ki through objects?

Post by Captain Strawberry » Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:57 am

Just something I wanted to share... because I like the idea so much so sorry if this isn't a good thread :D

so one on the DB fan manga I'm working on, one of the characters can increase their ki/power level by drawing his sword which is a contrast something like Black getting stronger through battle.

What do you think of the idea increasing power through swordsmanship?

I realised this is similar to Gohan's book in Dragon ball online but I've never played that game so I don't know if swordsmanship actually increase power like a transformation.
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Post by Nejishiki » Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:54 am

Just to clarify, you're saying their strength draws from special blades? Well, its existence would verify Cold's assumptions about Future Trunks, for reference. A tool is only as effective as its wielder. You could probably create engaging scenarios around the conflicting natures of an unskilled user and empowering weapons.

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Post by Captain Strawberry » Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:21 am

Nejishiki wrote:Just to clarify, you're saying their strength draws from special blades? Well, its existence would verify Cold's assumptions about Future Trunks, for reference. A tool is only as effective as its wielder. You could probably create engaging scenarios around the conflicting natures of an unskilled user and empowering weapons.
Well not necessarily special blades but depending on the material, your strength will increase. Like applying the ki to blade, amplifying your power.

In my head, it's similar to increasing one's power level through ki blasts or charging up a simple Kamehameha so I think it's plausible.

And I didn't think of a scenario like that. Something like someone getting Excaaculliibar or something.
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Post by FoolsGil » Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:06 pm

Sounds good to me. Magic and tech is wholly underutilized, Ki empowerment via weapons is in that box as well.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:06 pm

I've always found utilising ki through objects as a really neat trick and something that Dragon Ball never made full use of. I'd love to see the technique utilised in a wider capacity.

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:23 pm

How would putting ki in an object increase your ki? Unless the object had some kind of property that could amplify the ki that's put into it.
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Post by FoolsGil » Wed Oct 05, 2016 8:39 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:How would putting ki in an object increase your ki? Unless the object had some kind of property that could amplify the ki that's put into it.
Well a common saying is that when you master a weapon, it becomes a part of you, like a longer limb. If the weapon has its own power level, maybe its magic, maybe its alive, maybe something else, a character masters that weapon and it becomes a part of them, ki increase.

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:02 pm

So basically they just use the weapon to help their training, like Gohan and the Z sword?
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Post by FoolsGil » Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:08 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:So basically they just use the weapon to help their training, like Gohan and the Z sword?
Personally I was thinking more like in Bleach, but yeah, whether standard training, or more mysticism, if there's success, the character would have their weapon's power to assist them.

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Post by Captain Strawberry » Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:44 am

FoolsGil wrote:
Polyphase Avatron wrote:So basically they just use the weapon to help their training, like Gohan and the Z sword?
Personally I was thinking more like in Bleach, but yeah, whether standard training, or more mysticism, if there's success, the character would have their weapon's power to assist them.
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Post by Xeztin » Thu Oct 06, 2016 12:54 pm

something like the Soul Eater from Soul Caliber?

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Post by Captain Strawberry » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:05 pm

Xeztin wrote:something like the Soul Eater from Soul Caliber?
I don't know anything about Soul caliber but I think I like to have more of the RPG mindset, the stronger the weapon you pick up, the more damage you do
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Post by Captain Strawberry » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:32 am

If you're skin is part of you and through powering up with ki, your skin becomes harder. Metal ordinarily is harder than skin, if you can make it an extension of yourself than you would be a lot stronger.

I think Black using the ki-blade increases his power level as we know in the series, if you charge your energy like with a Kamehameha, your power increases and you can kill opponents you wouldn't normally have been able to kill.
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Post by FoolsGil » Sat Oct 22, 2016 12:46 pm

Captain Strawberry wrote:If you're skin is part of you and through powering up with ki, your skin becomes harder. Metal ordinarily is harder than skin, if you can make it an extension of yourself than you would be a lot stronger.

I think Black using the ki-blade increases his power level as we know in the series, if you charge your energy like with a Kamehameha, your power increases and you can kill opponents you wouldn't normally have been able to kill.
Yeah why not. In series transformations and powerups usally encompass the entire character, except during the USSJ phase. But if you can force a powerup or transformation to substantially increase your power (even at the cost of speed) there's no reason to not think you can create a powerup or transformation that is primarily defense.

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