Would the Mafuba even work? Because..

[GodVegetto91]

Would the Mafuba even be useful at all against characters that know instant transmission and instantaneous movement? Both Zamasu and Black know those techniques. Assuming they get sealed away inside some other dimension, they should still be able to get out via instant transmission.. (Zamasu being a Supreme Kai knows it too) As evident when he went to see Zuno in U7 and then later reappeared home by use of instantaneous movement.

What do you guys think? Will it be useful at all?

[Metrite]

some other dimension

They don't get sealed in a different dimension, they get sealed in a container like a denshi jar or bottle. And they apparently can't take action when in that state since they can't simply break out. Are they even fully conscious in there?

[GodVegetto91]

some other dimension

They don't get sealed in a different dimension, they get sealed in a container like a denshi jar or bottle. And they apparently can't take action when in that state since they can't simply break out. Are they even fully conscious in there?

How will they even be able to fit inside that jar? It's way to small. Now if it were nothing more but a mere portal to another dimension it would make more sense.

[UpFromTheSkies]

How will the even be able to fit inside that jar? It's way to small.

Magic.

If it does work, though, I wonder if they'll bother to explain why they never used this on any other villain

[omaro34]

Its not going to work. I said this before an I'll say it again: The Mafuba doesn't have a very high success rate.

[Shinomori]

I think the technique itself will work, but either one or two things are going to happen. One, whoever doesn't get sealed in the jar, will break the other out. I imagine Goku will try to seal Zamasu away due to him being immortal. Black will find out and will break the jar. The other possible thing that will happen will be whoever gets sealed away, will break themselves out through sheer force. Guys like King Piccolo and Kami are cupcakes when you compare the strength of today's characters with their's. So even though they couldn't break free when they were sealed, Black or Zamasu could probably cause the whole jar to explode from the inside.

[precita]

They should call up Garlic Jr. and open up the dead zone again.

[Xeztin]

How will the even be able to fit inside that jar? It's way to small.

Magic.

If it does work, though, I wonder if they'll bother to explain why they never used this on any other villain

I think the short answer would be that Goku would rather fight the opponent than seal them away, he's way too suborn like when he stayed on Namek to fight Freeza. He doesn't have a choice this time around though, and I'm going to bet that the seal will end up failing.

[GodVegetto91]

How will the even be able to fit inside that jar? It's way to small.

Magic.

If it does work, though, I wonder if they'll bother to explain why they never used this on any other villain

I think the short answer would be that Goku would rather fight the opponent than seal them away, he's way too suborn like when he stayed on Namek to fight Freeza. He doesn't have a choice this time around though, and I'm going to bet that the seal will end up failing.

I think you're underestimating Goku in that department. Goku isn't stupid and stubborn like Vegeta was in the old days with the whole pride thing. Goku knows when he's outmatched. And is more than willing to use any means possible if it means defeating an impossible to defeat OP villain.

[Lord Beerus]

Isn't the Mafuba for strictly sealing demons? Would it even work on Black or Zamasu to begin with? Or are Super just going to retcon that part out?

[Acetona]

Isn't the Mafuba for strictly sealing demons? Would it even work on Black or Zamasu to begin with? Or are Super just going to retcon that part out?

Maybe it's just the name of the technique? If Mafuba Gaeshi reverted the wave and sealed Kami, who wasn't a demon, who knows, huh?

[UpFromTheSkies]

Isn't the Mafuba for strictly sealing demons? Would it even work on Black or Zamasu to begin with? Or are Super just going to retcon that part out?

It's meant for demons, but it can work on anyone, even Namekians

[Son Gara]

It might work if it gets executed properly with no mistakes, but if it does it will it be a very anti-climatic end for such as great arc. That being said I highly doubt that is the road they are going to take.

[Nejishiki]

Isn't the Mafuba for strictly sealing demons? Would it even work on Black or Zamasu to begin with? Or are Super just going to retcon that part out?

No phrasing exists that the Mafuba only works on the Mazoku. The Reverse Mafuba is a variant of the technique and it trapped God without consequence. It wouldn't be retroactive continuity since nothing about the Mafuba's characteristics were altered. To my recollection, it was only recounted by Turtle Hermit that Mutaito developed it for Piccolo, not that it's exclusive to sealing his ilk alone.

[Mazingerdestro]

99.9% won't work. Especially since Piccolo was able to deflect it

[HeroR]

99.9% won't work. Especially since Piccolo was able to deflect it

Piccolo knew about the Evil Containment Wave and had three years to create a counter attack. It wasn't something he created on the fly.

[Mazingerdestro]

99.9% won't work. Especially since Piccolo was able to deflect it

Piccolo knew about the Evil Containment Wave and had three years to create a counter attack. It wasn't something he created on the fly.

We know nothing about the mafuba gaeshi. Especially whether it needs training to learn it or something. Since Mafuba looks like it uses ki to seal someone in an item, maybe the gaeshi is nothing more than sending more ki back

[HeroR]

99.9% won't work. Especially since Piccolo was able to deflect it

Piccolo knew about the Evil Containment Wave and had three years to create a counter attack. It wasn't something he created on the fly.

We know nothing about the mafuba gaeshi. Especially whether it needs training to learn it or something. Since Mafuba looks like it uses ki to seal someone in an item, maybe the gaeshi is nothing more than sending more ki back

I heavily doubt Zamasu would know a counter for a technique he had never seen before, especially since it took Piccolo years to make a counter measure and King Piccolo got trapped once and nearly again by Roshi. And I don't think the Evil Containment Wave is based on ki since Roshi is nowhere near as strong as King Piccolo and still nearly sealed him.

[Mazingerdestro]

Piccolo knew about the Evil Containment Wave and had three years to create a counter attack. It wasn't something he created on the fly.

We know nothing about the mafuba gaeshi. Especially whether it needs training to learn it or something. Since Mafuba looks like it uses ki to seal someone in an item, maybe the gaeshi is nothing more than sending more ki back

I heavily doubt Zamasu would know a counter for a technique he had never seen before, especially since it took Piccolo years to make a counter measure and King Piccolo got trapped once and nearly again by Roshi. And I don't think the Evil Containment Wave is based on ki since Roshi is nowhere near as strong as King Piccolo and still nearly sealed him.

My theory is that Zamasu and Black use something like the old Kaioshin's sphere to see other timelines so that's the reason most of the time they know were Goku, Trunks, and Vegeta are instantly and that explains why they are very calm during each fight. If that happens, Zamasu will know about Mafuba and also have a counter strategy as spoilers indicate that he breaks the mafuba jar.

[Lord Beerus]

Isn't the Mafuba for strictly sealing demons? Would it even work on Black or Zamasu to begin with? Or are Super just going to retcon that part out?

No phrasing exists that the Mafuba only works on the Mazoku. The Reverse Mafuba is a variant of the technique and it trapped God without consequence. It wouldn't be retroactive continuity since nothing about the Mafuba's characteristics were altered. To my recollection, it was only recounted by Turtle Hermit that Mutaito developed it for Piccolo, not that it's exclusive to sealing his ilk alone.

Oh, yeah. I totally forgot about the Reverse Mafuba that Piccolo pulled on Kami at the 23rd WMAT. Yeah, then the Mufaba should totally work on Zamasu and Black.