I hope Super still continues with good motives for new villains just like Zamasu/Goku Black

[Lujin_16]

What's your wish for the next villain motiv???

[dbs fanboy]

I've said this in another thread, what about a human that wants to kill the gods becasuse he lost his family and loved ones because of them? and also because he thinks that humans could take care the world without any godly help.

But honestly, after this arc i want a generic Buu like villain, but because in the next arc i would love to see the U6 fighters assembling to fight a dangerous threat, (maybe one of Hit's objectives?).

The villain could be someone difficult to caught/find so they would have to look for him, while doing this they could create bonds between them,Hit could develop the same relationship that Gohan and Piccolo had, but with Cabba; they also could have more problems for example, Frost trying to bertray them or something like that (but in the end changing and fighting with them).

It would be a fun story that would add some fresh air and it could build up the following arc.

[emperior]

It would be cool if the next villain is introduced by showing us a badly wounded Hit, who was hired to kill said villain.

I also like the idea of a mortal killing all the Gods but I think that would be too soon and it would feel too much like Black arc.

A "Kratos" like character would be awesome though. A mortal ascending to god hood. But I want Goku to do this

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

A mortal ascending to god hood. But I want Goku to do this

Goku already (kinda?) reached godhood with the SSGod transformation.

[sintzu]

Super has a lot to live up to now, not only did the production get A LOT better, the villain is one of the franchise's best.

I do want the writing to improve, I don't want to see another episode 53 Goku.

[GodKaio-Ken]

I'm actually really worried Super won't be able to continue any tension. How exactly do you create a villain stronger than an Immortal God? Why would I as the viewer feel like the next threat is tougher than the last?

[Lujin_16]

I'm actually really worried Super won't be able to continue any tension. How exactly do you create a villain stronger than an Immortal God? Why would I as the viewer feel like the next threat is tougher than the last?

Maybe the other gods will become the villains not only 1 maybe even 2- 4 ??? That's what i think will happen....

[GodKaio-Ken]

I'm actually really worried Super won't be able to continue any tension. How exactly do you create a villain stronger than an Immortal God? Why would I as the viewer feel like the next threat is tougher than the last?

Maybe the other gods will become the villains not only 1 maybe even 2- 4 ??? That's what i think will happen....

I could see a God Of Destruction getting involved somehow...but in that case I think Beerus would fight back right? If not him than Whis? I know generally they don't care about mortals so much but you can't just have other Gods in your universe wrecking things. I'd guess it would have to start off in a different universe somehow. I'd actually be okay with this but they would need to write the villain REALLY well...because a strong immortal fighter is actually scarier than an even stronger but mortal one if you get what I'm trying to say.

First they would have to be revived though since it seems Black went around killing all the Gods.

[fadeddreams5]

Zamasu does not have any better reasons for doing what he's done than Frieza or Cell. His speeches about justice does not make him any deeper either.

Anyways, I just want an actual villain and not a neutral character like Hit and Beerus. We've seen gods. How about demons and Makaioshin? We see them in video games. I want Toriyama's take on them already!

[djcoopdawg]

Gods of Destruction mutiny involving the ones we haven't seen. Also anything involving Cabba or Hit in Universe 6 would be interesting. I like the idea mentioned of learning of the villain from a wounded Hit. It's kinda hard to present a new villain after the one we have now was capable of destroying all the gods in one timeline. I think having Black/Zamasu being a returning character would be a smart move. I also don't think the multiversal tournament should be the next arc.

[emperior]

A mortal ascending to god hood. But I want Goku to do this

Goku already (kinda?) reached godhood with the SSGod transformation.

Yes, but I think he will eventually become a full fledged God like Beerus is

[Cipher]

If we get another true villain, I'd like it to be someone who actually expands the scope of the series and the characters' place in it. That was a consistent theme in the original run, Cell arc aside, and both Freeza and Zamasu's roles in Super have felt sort of tertiary. Imagine if Zamasu were to be the final real villain in the series, rather than Boo. There's so much less weight there.

I suppose he's a threat to the new concept of multiple universes, and a personal affront, but he doesn't increase the scope of the series with his arrival, and limiting his villainy to Trunks' parallel timeline hurts that sense of expansion.

[OLKv3]

If we get another true villain, I'd like it to be someone who actually expands the scope of the series and the characters' place in it. That was a consistent theme in the original run, Cell arc aside, and both Freeza and Zamasu's roles in Super have felt sort of tertiary. Imagine if Zamasu were to be the final real villain in the series, rather than Boo. There's so much less weight there.

I suppose he's a threat to the new concept of multiple universes, and a personal affront, but he doesn't increase the scope of the series with his arrival, and limiting his villainy to Trunks' parallel timeline hurts that sense of expansion.

Manga tried to paint him as a threat to every timeline, since he can just hop back to the present whenever he wants and go invade other realities. He doesn't seem to actually care about doing that though

[ekrolo2]

If we get another true villain, I'd like it to be someone who actually expands the scope of the series and the characters' place in it. That was a consistent theme in the original run, Cell arc aside, and both Freeza and Zamasu's roles in Super have felt sort of tertiary. Imagine if Zamasu were to be the final real villain in the series, rather than Boo. There's so much less weight there.

I suppose he's a threat to the new concept of multiple universes, and a personal affront, but he doesn't increase the scope of the series with his arrival, and limiting his villainy to Trunks' parallel timeline hurts that sense of expansion.

Manga tried to paint him as a threat to every timeline, since he can just hop back to the present whenever he wants and go invade other realities. He doesn't seem to actually care about doing that though

As did the anime by having him kill all the Kais there too, the anime just treated it as a throwaway detail last episode whereas the manga chose to put some more weight to it.

[Lionel]

A villain's power doesn't need to eclipse the previous one's for their imposition to be genuine. This is a recurrent trope of Dragon Ball, but outlandish abilities and techniques have been noted to exist. I believe something along the lines of Yu-Yu-Hakusho's Minoru Kamiya, the Sensui Seven, or the humans whom Genkai employed to test the protagonist group with unorthodox challenges separate from raw power. Many of these characters are espoused to be "geniuses", correct? So why can't a more tangible utilisation of their intelligence be used? Think Yu Kaito's duel of words and cleverness with Kurama. It's the perfect opportunity for Piccolo to reemerge as a valuable asset since his intelligence is noted to be exceptional compared with the others. The series could also be allowed to take a reprieve from incessant fixation on deities and power hierarchy. Humans with more leveled and tangible, but not linearly defined motivations would be an interesting new direction to take things. I personally want to see the Saiyans become flummoxed by their precious genetically bestowed power having been rendered useless.

[Lord Beerus]

I want a pure and unadulterated hero's journey to villainy. Zamasu certainly slipped into his own twisted, manipulative and depraved mindset, but prior to that he already had a bit of an ambiguous and somewhat jaded mentality and only really needed on small spark to set off the massive flame. I want to see a truly noble person see their naive idealistic nature wither away and then slowly become more bitter and cynical before succumbing to an "ends justify the means" mentality. Where they not a generic doomsday villain, but more of a tragic villain or fallen hero.

EDIT: Plus, a villain with no transformations or alternate forms would be a bonus.

[Fresh Prince]

A rogue archangel who tries to kill off the Gods of Destructions. If all Gods of Destructions are destroyed, Zeno dies and the archangel can rule the universes(?)

I know that sounds stupid.

[ChronoTwigger]

A rogue archangel who tries to kill off the Gods of Destructions. If all Gods of Destructions are destroyed, Zeno dies and the archangel can rule the universes(?)

I know that sounds stupid.

It doesn't. We were introduced to Whis primarch. Maybe for a reason.

[SaiyanZ]

I don't, Zamasu's characterization is horrible imo. I don't mind more complex takes on characters, just make their justification more reasonable.

[DragonBallFoodie]

Zamasu/Black Goku has no good motives, he just decided mortals were doomed to banality and primal nature and voted to kill them all.

The only DB villain that had good motives was Vegeta, because he wanted to kill Frieza for destroying his world.