What are your estimates for Namek Arc Vegeta's power level during his last zenkai?

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What are your estimates for Namek Arc Vegeta's power level during his last zenkai?

Post by Angelus » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:24 am

The last zenkai he got just before Frieza killed him

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Re: What are your estimates for Namek Arc Vegeta's power level during his last zenkai?

Post by nickzambuto » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:42 am

I imagine stronger than third form Freeza just so the Zenkai wasn't a waste of time. We know he was a lot stronger than Piccolo, since he became fast enough to save Gohan from final form Freeza's blast while Piccolo couldn't even see it.

First Form Freeza - 530,000
Second Form (Full Power) 1,530,000
Piccolo (Full Power) 1,600,000
Third Form 2,000,000 (a mere intermediate form to buffer his second and final, the least useful form, smallest power increase)
Vegeta (final Zenkai) 2,500,000
True Form (1% power) 3,000,000

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Re: What are your estimates for Namek Arc Vegeta's power level during his last zenkai?

Post by Angelus » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:44 am

Vegeta wasn't that far off from post-healing tank Goku then?

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Re: What are your estimates for Namek Arc Vegeta's power level during his last zenkai?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:45 am

I go with 2.4 million, so about 80% of Goku. He's stronger than everyone else seen up to that point, and strong enough to kinda sorta keep up with Freeza when Freeza's not really putting any kind of real effort forward.
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Re: What are your estimates for Namek Arc Vegeta's power level during his last zenkai?

Post by Angelus » Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:29 pm

If Vegeta actually turned SSJ right then and there, he actually might have been able to kill Frieza huh?

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Re: What are your estimates for Namek Arc Vegeta's power level during his last zenkai?

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:03 pm

Angelus wrote:If Vegeta actually turned SSJ right then and there, he actually might have been able to kill Frieza huh?
Yeah, he would have.

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Re: What are your estimates for Namek Arc Vegeta's power level during his last zenkai?

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:06 pm

Angelus wrote:The last zenkai he got just before Frieza killed him
After being Zenkai'd, Vegeta was slightly above Third Form Frieza.

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Re: What are your estimates for Namek Arc Vegeta's power level during his last zenkai?

Post by Ash57 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:01 pm

I have Vegeta still being a total joke to Goku and Freeza. In my personal manga power levels, i have him at ~3,200,000ish compared to Goku's ~5,000,000, but if we're following Daizenshuu i have him at 2,200,000 best case scenario.
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Re: What are your estimates for Namek Arc Vegeta's power level during his last zenkai?

Post by nickzambuto » Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:09 pm

Angelus wrote:Vegeta wasn't that far off from post-healing tank Goku then?
Well it depends on how you look at it. In the series, there's apparently a massive difference between 408 Piccolo and 250 Tenshinhan, to the point where if Ten, his two rivals, and the much stronger Kami all teamed up, they wouldn't even be a factor against the Demon, even though Ten alone is more than 50% of Piccolo. There was also a massive difference between 3,500 Piccolo and 4,000 Nappa, 16,000 Goku and 18,000 Vegeta, 21,000 Dodoria and 24,000 Vegeta, the list goes on. So saying Vegeta is 2,500,000 and Goku is 3,000,000 might sound like they're close, but the story definitely doesn't treat it that way. It's consistent that small incriments and percentage differences make big gaps in power. You apparently don't need to be twice as strong as someone in order to curbstomp them, or even 50% stronger.

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Re: What are your estimates for Namek Arc Vegeta's power level during his last zenkai?

Post by sintzu » Tue Oct 25, 2016 8:41 pm

I'd put him somewhere around 3rd form Freeza.
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Re: What are your estimates for Namek Arc Vegeta's power level during his last zenkai?

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:30 pm

He has to be considerably below Goku and a heavily suppressed Frieza, so I'd say a little over 2 million, something like this:
2nd form Frieza: 1,060,000
Piccolo:1,155,000
3rd form Frieza: 2,120,000
Vegeta (Zenkai): 2,200,000
Frieza (Final form 2%): 2,400,000
Goku: 3,000,000
Frieza (2.5%): 3,000,000

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Post by ahill1 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:35 am

Way stronger than 3rd form Freeza, but no match for post speed up final form Freeza.

3rd form Freeza 2,000,000
Vegeta Zenkai 3,000,000
Final form Freeza (post speed up) 5,300,000

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Re: What are your estimates for Namek Arc Vegeta's power level during his last zenkai?

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:07 am

ahill1 wrote:Way stronger than 3rd form Freeza, but no match for post speed up final form Freeza.

3rd form Freeza 2,000,000
Vegeta Zenkai 3,000,000
Final form Freeza (post speed up) 5,300,000
You have Vegeta = Goku? That's ridiculous, at this point Goku is far stronger.

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Re: What are your estimates for Namek Arc Vegeta's power level during his last zenkai?

Post by theherodjl » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:12 pm

Vegeta ought to be around 3rd form Freeza which I would peg as 2% of Freeza's strength, so about 2,400,000. Freeza final form being 3,600,000 or 3% of his strength and 1.5x Vegeta's power seems to work mathematically in my opinion.
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Re: What are your estimates for Namek Arc Vegeta's power level during his last zenkai?

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:18 pm

theherodjl wrote:Vegeta ought to be around 3rd form Freeza which I would peg as 2% of Freeza's strength, so about 2,400,000. Freeza final form being 3,600,000 or 3% of his strength and 1.5x Vegeta's power seems to work mathematically in my opinion.
But then Frieza would be a good deal above Goku.

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Re: What are your estimates for Namek Arc Vegeta's power level during his last zenkai?

Post by theherodjl » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:28 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:But then Frieza would be a good deal above Goku.
I don't take the Daiz number for Goku being 3,000,000 literally as the same guide on the same page even lists Goku as just 8000 when Vegeta said it was "over 8000". Just so as long as Goku's power level is over 3,000,000 but under 3,600,000 works for me.
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Re: What are your estimates for Namek Arc Vegeta's power level during his last zenkai?

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:30 pm

theherodjl wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:But then Frieza would be a good deal above Goku.
I don't take the Daiz number for Goku being 3,000,000 literally as the same guide on the same page even lists Goku as just 8000 when Vegeta said it was "over 8000". Just so as long as Goku's power level is over 3,000,000 but under 3,600,000 works for me.
Maybe Goku's power level was 8,000.5 which is basically the same as 8,000.

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Re: What are your estimates for Namek Arc Vegeta's power level during his last zenkai?

Post by theherodjl » Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:09 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:Maybe Goku's power level was 8,000.5 which is basically the same as 8,000.
I doubt that's what Vegeta was referring to when he said it's over 8000, otherwise it would be like this.
Nappa: Vegeta, what does the scouter say about his power level?
Vegeta: It's a tiny sliver of a digit just over 8000!
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Re: What are your estimates for Namek Arc Vegeta's power level during his last zenkai?

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Wed Oct 26, 2016 6:54 pm

theherodjl wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:Maybe Goku's power level was 8,000.5 which is basically the same as 8,000.
I doubt that's what Vegeta was referring to when he said it's over 8000, otherwise it would be like this.
Nappa: Vegeta, what does the scouter say about his power level?
Vegeta: It's a tiny sliver of a digit just over 8000!
Yeah, but that would sound totally uncool.

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Re: What are your estimates for Namek Arc Vegeta's power level during his last zenkai?

Post by buutenks » Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:56 pm

Lol, why can't Vegeta be as strong as Goku ?

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