About the GT Perfect Files and the Anime Comics of the GT Special

[Mycophobia]

Hello everyone,

Recently i've discovered that some databook apparently said something like Vegetto being perhaps stronger than SSJ4 Goku.

And found out a while after that the source came from the Anime Comics of the GT Special.

And i thought that it didn't make sense at all, simply because the anime contradicts it, and there is also the implication that GT Gohan>Z Gohan and Goku effortlessy beat him during the Baby Saga while in base form according to the GT Perfect Files.

And given the fact that Vegetto base form is = or > at Buuhan, i've finally drawn the conclusion that this statement was inconsistent and not to be taken seriously.

And i generally go by canon statements>>>>>>>>>>>>>>databook statements (especially when i'm not sure wether the source is official or not, hence my thread).

But the fact is : i've always used the GT Perfect Files when talking about GT Characters's power.

So i began to do some research and found out that the guide (the Anime Comics of the GT Special) was done by the same guys who created the GPF.

So i'm a lil' bit confused here, because i was always told that the GT Perfect Files was done by the writters of the series.

Can i get some help please ? And could somebody tell me if both of them have to be counted as official datebooks ?

[Perfectionist-Cell]

If we go by anime Vegetto is stronger than Buuhan if we go by the manga it is a mystery.

GT Goku is stronger or equal to Majin Buu in his base. Since he went toe to toe with Rildo who i belive who is just as strong. Goku did get his tail back and pretty sure he got a little stronger between arcs so he is stronger than Buu.

People claim ssj4 is 4000x base (50x2x8x10) if this is the case Vegetto shouldn't be near GT Goku.

No one has ever shown what these GT perfect files
or has ever put a link so I'm not the guy to belive what they say is 100%

[TheUltimateNinja]

They are both published by Shueisha and are considered official material.

[nickzambuto]

My reasoning has always been that, with the wording "Perhaps even surpassing Super Saiyan 4..." it's taking into account Vegetto's TRUE power as a SSJ3. This reconciles the comic statement with all the contradictory quotes like Goku saying Baby has the most awesome ki he's ever felt. Because he never felt Vegetto at full power.

[Awesome_Gotenks]

Both are official material, but the GT Perfect Files are the absolute authority when it comes to GT and anything they say is to be taken as fact, since they were created by the same staff which created GT. It's like Toriyama's interviews

SSjin Vegito is not anywhere near SSjin4 Goku. Even SSjin3 Vegito is weaker IMO.

[Mycophobia]

I feel the same as Awesome Gotenks, imo Ssjin 3 Vegetto wouldn't even be able to touch Goku Ssj3 from Bebi Saga, let alone Goku SSJ3 from the Super C17 Arc

But anyways, I've also found out that the GT Perfect Files were made by Jump Comics just like the GT Anime Comics special

And I've never considered the Jump Comics as a legit source when it comes to DB, they are known for saying lots of bullshit generally speaking, such as Goku Namek being FTL because he did a complete lap of the planet (which is completely false btw) ect

Is there any evidence showing that the GPF were made by the staff of GT unlike the other book ?

[nickzambuto]

I feel the same as Awesome Gotenks, imo Ssjin 3 Vegetto wouldn't even be able to touch Goku Ssj3 from Bebi Saga, let alone Goku SSJ3 from the Super C17 Arc

But anyways, I've also found out that the GT Perfect Files were made by Jump Comics just like the GT Anime Comics special

And I've never considered the Jump Comics as a legit source when it comes to DB, they are known for saying lots of bullshit generally speaking, such as Goku Namek being FTL because he did a complete lap of the planet (which is completely false btw) ect

Is there any evidence showing that the GPF were made by the staff of GT unlike the other book ?

The Jump Comics didn't say anything about light speed. It merely confirmed that Goku traveled halfway across Namek in an instant, and fans fill in the gaps. He'd be roughly 1/14 lightspeed, assuming Namek is at least the same size as Earth, and therefore he'd already be light speed with a Kaioken x14.

[Mycophobia]

I feel the same as Awesome Gotenks, imo Ssjin 3 Vegetto wouldn't even be able to touch Goku Ssj3 from Bebi Saga, let alone Goku SSJ3 from the Super C17 Arc

But anyways, I've also found out that the GT Perfect Files were made by Jump Comics just like the GT Anime Comics special

And I've never considered the Jump Comics as a legit source when it comes to DB, they are known for saying lots of bullshit generally speaking, such as Goku Namek being FTL because he did a complete lap of the planet (which is completely false btw) ect

Is there any evidence showing that the GPF were made by the staff of GT unlike the other book ?

The Jump Comics didn't say anything about light speed. It merely confirmed that Goku traveled halfway across Namek in an instant, and fans fill in the gaps. He'd be roughly 1/14 lightspeed, assuming Namek is at least the same size as Earth, and therefore he'd already be light speed with a Kaioken x14.

Not really, i have the screen in front of me and it does confirm that Goku traveled a complete lap of the planet, implying then that he is close to lightspeed.

And Goku cleary said in the manga that the island where Freezer was fighting the Z-Team was very close to the spaceship where he was resting

[Darkprince410]

Not really, i have the screen in front of me and it does confirm that Goku traveled a complete lap of the planet, implying then that he is close to lightspeed.

If you're referring to this image, this was created solely by Viz Media for the North American release of the comic. They essentially made it up out of nowhere, and wasn't a part of the original manga's release.

The GT Perfect Files wasn't made by GT's anime staff or writers, but was compiled and created by Shueisha, the same source as the Daizenshuu, the Super Exciting Guide, and essentially all the other databooks and data sources we've had over the years (including that animanga for the GT special). They're also responsible for the various Jump publications (Shonen, Saikyo, V, etc), so the information that appears in that animanga for the GT special has arguably the same validity as the GT Perfect Files or the Daizenshuu has.