I noticed a Dragon Ball pattern

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.

Moderators: Kanzenshuu Staff, General Help

User avatar
Totamo
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1885
Joined: Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:24 pm

I noticed a Dragon Ball pattern

Post by Totamo » Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:16 pm

Ball fans say it was better than Z
Z fans say it was better than GT
GT fans say it was better than Super
If we have another series, I'm sure people will say super is better.

Do you agree with this theory.

precita
Banned
Posts: 6037
Joined: Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:10 pm

Re: I noticed a Dragon Ball pattern

Post by precita » Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:49 pm

Most of it is just personal preference.

Some prefer the adventure aspect and comedy of Dragonball the most so they'll like it best. DBZ is of course the main series that was the most popular.

Opinions on GT and Super to an extent are mixed.

User avatar
Ki Breaker
Born 'n Bred Here
Posts: 6572
Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:15 am
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

Re: I noticed a Dragon Ball pattern

Post by Ki Breaker » Wed Nov 16, 2016 4:02 pm

What you are basically saying is people prefer what they first saw more..
That's to be expected, they grew up with it..
All Dragonball series are significantly different than each other.. so when what you like in the series you started with isn't in the one you watched after is the point where people say the other series is not as good..

I though started with z I prefer Dragonball more..
I saw gt too.. I put it slightly above evolution..
Super is right before z, catching up as it goes..
The Lord moves in mysterious ways but you don't have to. Please use your blinker

Lujin_16
Regular
Posts: 726
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2016 7:18 pm

Re: I noticed a Dragon Ball pattern

Post by Lujin_16 » Wed Nov 16, 2016 4:11 pm

i have seen some saying they like Super more than Z or both equal...People have different opinions what they like more but some are just hating without

explanation

User avatar
phattangent
Beyond-the-Beyond Newbie
Posts: 324
Joined: Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:29 pm
Location: 第7宇宙

Re: I noticed a Dragon Ball pattern

Post by phattangent » Wed Nov 16, 2016 4:21 pm

I like it all.
ドラゴンボール超と言うアニメを見ています。あの、日本語が分かりますか?話しましょう!
ザマスに就いて、全王は合体ザマスより大なりです!

User avatar
Soppa Saia People
I Live Here
Posts: 3066
Joined: Sun Aug 09, 2015 11:26 pm
Location: Minnesota

Re: I noticed a Dragon Ball pattern

Post by Soppa Saia People » Wed Nov 16, 2016 5:02 pm

Isn't this the Zelda pattern ? I say this is somewhat true ,Ball is my favorite, then Z, then GT, then Super.
I have borderline personality disorder, if my posts ever come off as aggressive or word vomit-y to you, please let me know.

🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

precita
Banned
Posts: 6037
Joined: Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:10 pm

Re: I noticed a Dragon Ball pattern

Post by precita » Wed Nov 16, 2016 5:33 pm

Soppa Saia People wrote:Isn't this the Zelda pattern ? I say this is somewhat true ,Ball is my favorite, then Z, then GT, then Super.
Its the Pokemon pattern too. Whenever a new gen of Pokemon comes out, people say the previous gen is the most hated one. Then when the next gen after comes out, then the "hated gen" is now looked back upon fondly and the previous liked gen becomes disliked.

Anyone who has followed the Pokemon franchise knows we go through this every new generation.

User avatar
ChronoTwigger
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1225
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:45 pm
Location: PizzaLand

Re: I noticed a Dragon Ball pattern

Post by ChronoTwigger » Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:04 pm

Original >>>>> Super >> Z >>>>>>>>>>GT

Issue, if any, people usually have strict absolute positions. And sometime no motivations on their opinions.
I was a Super hater until I understood the product goals, rythm and themes. Now I really enjoy it.
Anyway it was an intellectual strain people did not want or have no need to do at all.
To hate GT I watched it more than once to find exactly why I didn't liked it.
I learned english listening to songs. So I don't know anything about. The day you had to learn play piano by just listening .mp3, you'll understand.

User avatar
Baggie_Saiyan
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 10315
Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:22 pm
Location: Atlantis.

Re: I noticed a Dragon Ball pattern

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Thu Nov 17, 2016 2:15 pm

precita wrote:
Soppa Saia People wrote:Isn't this the Zelda pattern ? I say this is somewhat true ,Ball is my favorite, then Z, then GT, then Super.
Its the Pokemon pattern too. Whenever a new gen of Pokemon comes out, people say the previous gen is the most hated one. Then when the next gen after comes out, then the "hated gen" is now looked back upon fondly and the previous liked gen becomes disliked.

Anyone who has followed the Pokemon franchise knows we go through this every new generation.
Heh. The amount of hate Gen 6 got when SuMo was announced instead of Z was laughable. "Confirmed worst Gen ever" yeah cuz it didn't have 5 games! Omg. How dare it. How dare Game Freak realise releasing third version games is dumb. Besides Gen 5 had 4 games too so yeah that really bothered me.

User avatar
PsionicWarrior
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1569
Joined: Mon May 09, 2016 2:33 pm

Re: I noticed a Dragon Ball pattern

Post by PsionicWarrior » Thu Nov 17, 2016 2:20 pm

I don't know, keep in mind posters on forums are literally a drop in the ocean lol

Personally I first prefer Z, then DB, then Super, then GT,
the time pattern doesn't seem to apply on me lol
ChronoTwigger wrote: To hate GT I watched it more than once to find exactly why I didn't liked it.
I watched it twice and came to the same conclusion both times lol

User avatar
emperior
I Live Here
Posts: 4343
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:52 pm
Location: Dragon World
Contact:

Re: I noticed a Dragon Ball pattern

Post by emperior » Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:09 pm

precita wrote:
Soppa Saia People wrote:Isn't this the Zelda pattern ? I say this is somewhat true ,Ball is my favorite, then Z, then GT, then Super.
Its the Pokemon pattern too. Whenever a new gen of Pokemon comes out, people say the previous gen is the most hated one. Then when the next gen after comes out, then the "hated gen" is now looked back upon fondly and the previous liked gen becomes disliked.

Anyone who has followed the Pokemon franchise knows we go through this every new generation.
Call of Duty pattern too, lol
悟 “Vincit qui se vincit”

What I consider canonical

User avatar
MCDaveG
Born 'n Bred Here
Posts: 5627
Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:54 pm
Location: Prague, Czechia
Contact:

Re: I noticed a Dragon Ball pattern

Post by MCDaveG » Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:34 pm

I take Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z as one enclosed story. So, I like the main series the most.
I take Super as sequel, enjoy the story (Yo! Son Goku Special, BoG, ROF and Champa and Trunks arc) and like it less.
GT was fun as I was a kid, but I remember being pissed a lot about Goku being kid again and never returning back, riding away on Shenron.
I felt cheated that the show ended so open ended, without solving the issue from first episode and not knowing what the hell happened to Goku.
The ending itself was good and sad, but somehow abrupt. I liked SSJ4 for example and Baby arc villains + Evil Shenron arc as a kid.
But if Super was done as I was kid, as a sequel in TV, damn, that would rock.
FighterZ: Funky_Strudel
PS5: Dynamixx88

User avatar
Mazingerdestro
Regular
Posts: 747
Joined: Thu May 19, 2016 5:42 am

Re: I noticed a Dragon Ball pattern

Post by Mazingerdestro » Thu Nov 17, 2016 4:18 pm

Well your theory is correct. In general nostalgia is a big factor and nowadays old=good for some reason. But not only in anime. Shitty video games, shitty movies etc.

I think that's the reason member berries were invented.
Member?

buutenks
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1888
Joined: Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:42 am

Re: I noticed a Dragon Ball pattern

Post by buutenks » Thu Nov 17, 2016 4:26 pm

I started with DB as a child and once i was in my teens i watched DBZ. I loved the adventure and goofy aspect of DB, while Z, i enjoyed the long power ups and the body builder characters punching each other. Super, i enjoy the fast paced fights and the adventure aspect of it. Plus Z and DB was earth orientated mostly, apart from Namek saga all the action happened on earth. While Super, it happened in different universes, different timelines and different planets. So that was a breath of fresh air. Plus, they changed the wasteland battlegrounds(Z had way way to much wasteland battlegrounds) into something more refreshing. Arena, Destroyed City, Ocean fight, Space fight.

User avatar
PsionicWarrior
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1569
Joined: Mon May 09, 2016 2:33 pm

Re: I noticed a Dragon Ball pattern

Post by PsionicWarrior » Thu Nov 17, 2016 4:30 pm

Mazingerdestro wrote:Well your theory is correct. In general nostalgia is a big factor and nowadays old=good for some reason. But not only in anime. Shitty video games, shitty movies etc.

I think that's the reason member berries were invented.
Member?
I sure member when games were shipped close to bug-free or when story scripts were still part of the movies budget lol

There are still great stuff coming out nowadays, it just comes more as exceptions than in a general rule of thumb lol

User avatar
Mazingerdestro
Regular
Posts: 747
Joined: Thu May 19, 2016 5:42 am

Re: I noticed a Dragon Ball pattern

Post by Mazingerdestro » Thu Nov 17, 2016 6:34 pm

PsionicWarrior wrote:
Mazingerdestro wrote:Well your theory is correct. In general nostalgia is a big factor and nowadays old=good for some reason. But not only in anime. Shitty video games, shitty movies etc.

I think that's the reason member berries were invented.
Member?
I sure member when games were shipped close to bug-free or when story scripts were still part of the movies budget lol

There are still great stuff coming out nowadays, it just comes more as exceptions than in a general rule of thumb lol
Well obviously. Back then I member more good stuff due to the fact that the shitty stayed in the shadows. Member no man sky? If that game was released for ps1 nobody would know about it "a shitty ps1 game? Yeah I have my tekken, metal Gear etc."
Just ask the average fan to name few bad ff games. They will instantly reply ff13 series of course. When in general there were more bad games in the ff franchise. However, nobody members them

User avatar
Lord Beerus
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 21422
Joined: Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:20 pm
Location: A temple on a giant tree
Contact:

Re: I noticed a Dragon Ball pattern

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Nov 17, 2016 6:41 pm

It all boils down to personal preference. On a side note, I think to get a better perspective for how you feel the overall quality of any TV show is, I think you would need to watch the show from start to finish at least more than once. Because there are often sometimes moments you may miss in you initial viewing of the show that may pick up on when you watch it again, which may affect how you determine its true quality.

User avatar
PsionicWarrior
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1569
Joined: Mon May 09, 2016 2:33 pm

Re: I noticed a Dragon Ball pattern

Post by PsionicWarrior » Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:19 pm

Mazingerdestro wrote: Well obviously. Back then I member more good stuff due to the fact that the shitty stayed in the shadows. Member no man sky? If that game was released for ps1 nobody would know about it "a shitty ps1 game? Yeah I have my tekken, metal Gear etc."
Just ask the average fan to name few bad ff games. They will instantly reply ff13 series of course. When in general there were more bad games in the ff franchise. However, nobody members them
No mate I don't member no man sky and google shows me something for ps4 I doubt that's what you're referring at, it is pretty normal that we member what we loved rather than what we didn't and threw down the bin, ofc we also had our good share of ****** games back in the 90's if that's your point can't argue against that and won't, as is better to forget all horrible things lol
Lord Beerus wrote:It all boils down to personal preference. On a side note, I think to get a better perspective for how you feel the overall quality of any TV show is, I think you would need to watch the show from start to finish at least more than once. Because there are often sometimes moments you may miss in you initial viewing of the show that may pick up on when you watch it again, which may affect how you determine its true quality.
Obviously rewatchs will give you a better and more accurate standpoint but I'd safely say the first viewing should give you the general idea about whether you like it or not lol

User avatar
Mazingerdestro
Regular
Posts: 747
Joined: Thu May 19, 2016 5:42 am

Re: I noticed a Dragon Ball pattern

Post by Mazingerdestro » Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:26 pm

PsionicWarrior wrote:
Mazingerdestro wrote: Well obviously. Back then I member more good stuff due to the fact that the shitty stayed in the shadows. Member no man sky? If that game was released for ps1 nobody would know about it "a shitty ps1 game? Yeah I have my tekken, metal Gear etc."
Just ask the average fan to name few bad ff games. They will instantly reply ff13 series of course. When in general there were more bad games in the ff franchise. However, nobody members them
No mate I don't member no man sky and google shows me something for ps4 I doubt that's what you're referring at, it is pretty normal that we member what we loved rather than what we didn't and threw down the bin, ofc we also had our good share of ****** games back in the 90's if that's your point can't argue against that and won't, as is better to forget all horrible things lol
Lord Beerus wrote:It all boils down to personal preference. On a side note, I think to get a better perspective for how you feel the overall quality of any TV show is, I think you would need to watch the show from start to finish at least more than once. Because there are often sometimes moments you may miss in you initial viewing of the show that may pick up on when you watch it again, which may affect how you determine its true quality.
Obviously rewatchs will give you a better and more accurate standpoint but I'd safely say the first viewing should give you the general idea about whether you like it or not lol
Yes. In general we member only the good things

Post Reply