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Timeline chart

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:29 am

I haven't actually watched the latest episode yet, just read the summary, but does this chart effectively explain all of the timelines and such?

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Re: Timeline chart

Post by Nejishiki » Sun Nov 20, 2016 7:39 am

To dot your chart with perspective, it should look like this.

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Re: Timeline chart

Post by szopman » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:22 am

So now we have like 7 timelines?
1) The Main timeline - DB/Z/S/GT
2) Future Trunks' world which was destroyed by Zen-Oh
3) Cell's timeline
4) Black's timeline where Black killed Goku's family
5) The new alternate Future Trunks' timeline where Beerus prevents Zamasu-crisis, now there are two Mais and two Trunks there.
6) The unseen timeline, which created Trunks from Cell's timeline (which I always assume is the "Super Android 17" movie's timeline)
7) this alternate timeline created by some guy from U12.

Now, it's really, really messed up :D

If I understood correctly what Whis said, when timeline is changed, the previous "original" timeline is now considered an alternate timeline and a green ring appeares, and the newly created timeline becomes the main timeline, is that correct? This says exactly: "You've already created a Time Ring yourself, Beerus-sama. (...) When you destroyed Zamasu, another world where Zamasu wasn't destroyed was born". For me it's a little illogical 'cause actually the new timeline should be the one where Zamasu WAS destroyed. It was original unaltered flow of time where Zamasu wasn't destroyed and became Black, but I see that Toriyama has a totally different, original point of view at this matter.
So it's like, when you change the timeline, the changed one is the main, and the original events become the alternate timelines? It's so complicated now ;o

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Re: Timeline chart

Post by dbs fanboy » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:29 am

szopman wrote:So now we have like 7 timelines?
1) The Main timeline - DB/Z/S/GT
2) Future Trunks' world which was destroyed by Zen-Oh
3) Cell's timeline
4) Black's timeline where Black killed Goku's family
5) The new alternate Future Trunks' timeline where Beerus prevents Zamasu-crisis, now there are two Mais and two Trunks there.
6) The unseen timeline, which created Trunks from Cell's timeline (which I always assume is the "Super Android 17" movie's timeline)
7) this alternate timeline created by some guy from U12.

Now, it's really, really messed up :D
For this exact reason i hope that the super characters won't mess with time ever again, they've really fucked up a lot of things, in fact Zeno even destroyed the streams :lol: :lol:
Next time our reality will be even more affected by Trunks's actions.
I really miss ma boy, Black :( :cry:


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Re: Timeline chart

Post by szopman » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:31 am

dbs fanboy wrote:
szopman wrote:So now we have like 7 timelines?
1) The Main timeline - DB/Z/S/GT
2) Future Trunks' world which was destroyed by Zen-Oh
3) Cell's timeline
4) Black's timeline where Black killed Goku's family
5) The new alternate Future Trunks' timeline where Beerus prevents Zamasu-crisis, now there are two Mais and two Trunks there.
6) The unseen timeline, which created Trunks from Cell's timeline (which I always assume is the "Super Android 17" movie's timeline)
7) this alternate timeline created by some guy from U12.

Now, it's really, really messed up :D
For this exact reason i hope that the super characters won't mess with time ever again, they've really fucked up a lot of things, in fact Zeno even destroyed the streams :lol: :lol:
Next time our reality will be even more affected by Trunks's actions.
That's why they shouldn't adapt any "Xenoverse" games stuff into the series because probably they would create even bigger mess ;)

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Re: Timeline chart

Post by Nejishiki » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:34 am

There are currently six timelines.

Your phrasing is a bit disjointed for me. I'll just repeat what the episode stated. Whis' solution for helping Future Trunks is to place him before Zeno erases his first world. It's possible because Beerus created a Time Ring himself. The world that was born featured an alive Zamasu. Whis then states that he will warn that Beerus of the Zamasu menace and will seal him in a better container once the body is destroyed. After that is done, Future Trunks and Future Mai will go there.
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Re: Timeline chart

Post by phattangent » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:36 am

Nejishiki wrote:There are currently six timelines.

Your phrasing is a bit disjointed for me. I'll just repeat what the episode stated. Whis' solution for helping Future Trunks is to place him before Zeno erases his first world. It's possible because Beerus created a Time Ring himself. The world that was born featured an alive Zamasu. Whis then states that he will warn that Beerus of the Zamasu menace and will seal him in a better container once the body is destroyed so that he's no trouble. After that is done, Future Trunks and Future Mai will go there.
All this makes me wonder who created the very first 時の指輪 / Time Ring?
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Re: Timeline chart

Post by Nejishiki » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:36 am

The manga continuity claims it was a human from Universe 12. It's not addressed in the anime continuity.

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Re: Timeline chart

Post by Alee9977 » Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:24 am

szopman wrote:
If I understood correctly what Whis said, when timeline is changed, the previous "original" timeline is now considered an alternate timeline and a green ring appeares, and the newly created timeline becomes the main timeline, is that correct? This says exactly: "You've already created a Time Ring yourself, Beerus-sama. (...) When you destroyed Zamasu, another world where Zamasu wasn't destroyed was born". For me it's a little illogical 'cause actually the new timeline should be the one where Zamasu WAS destroyed. It was original unaltered flow of time where Zamasu wasn't destroyed and became Black, but I see that Toriyama has a totally different, original point of view at this matter.
So it's like, when you change the timeline, the changed one is the main, and the original events become the alternate timelines? It's so complicated now ;o
Wiss doesn't know how Black was created, so he said exactly what you said but with other words.
But that confused me too, how did Bills created a new timeline if he never travelled in time?

So this should be how timelines are right now
1- Universe 12 mortal created it
2- Future Trunks timeline where Black appears
3- DBS Main Timeline
4- Cell's timeline
5- Black's timeline (Wiss was talking about this timeline when he said that Beerus created a new timeline, and the timeline created was #3)
6- New Future timeline, where Trunks and Mai are going now.

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Re: Timeline chart

Post by DragonBallFoodie » Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:38 am

:(

Nuff said on my part.
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Re: Timeline chart

Post by szopman » Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:10 am

Alee9977 wrote:
szopman wrote:
If I understood correctly what Whis said, when timeline is changed, the previous "original" timeline is now considered an alternate timeline and a green ring appeares, and the newly created timeline becomes the main timeline, is that correct? This says exactly: "You've already created a Time Ring yourself, Beerus-sama. (...) When you destroyed Zamasu, another world where Zamasu wasn't destroyed was born". For me it's a little illogical 'cause actually the new timeline should be the one where Zamasu WAS destroyed. It was original unaltered flow of time where Zamasu wasn't destroyed and became Black, but I see that Toriyama has a totally different, original point of view at this matter.
So it's like, when you change the timeline, the changed one is the main, and the original events become the alternate timelines? It's so complicated now ;o
Wiss doesn't know how Black was created, so he said exactly what you said but with other words.
But that confused me too, how did Bills created a new timeline if he never travelled in time?

So this should be how timelines are right now
1- Universe 12 mortal created it
2- Future Trunks timeline where Black appears
3- DBS Main Timeline
4- Cell's timeline
5- Black's timeline (Wiss was talking about this timeline when he said that Beerus created a new timeline, and the timeline created was #3)
6- New Future timeline, where Trunks and Mai are going now.
There are 7 timelines. There's this unseen timeline that Trunks from Cell's timeline visited.
Plus, there are now 7 timings which kind of confirms that. The sixth was created by Beerus (as showed in the last episode) + now they created also this new Trunks' timeline without Black. It is so super-confusing :D

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Re: Timeline chart

Post by ShadowBardock89 » Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:23 am

I just thought of something: What if Future Trunks and Mai were sent to the timeline that Time Patrol Trunks is from?
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=40715&start=20#p1439892
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Re: Timeline chart

Post by Alee9977 » Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:32 pm

szopman wrote:
Alee9977 wrote:
szopman wrote:
If I understood correctly what Whis said, when timeline is changed, the previous "original" timeline is now considered an alternate timeline and a green ring appeares, and the newly created timeline becomes the main timeline, is that correct? This says exactly: "You've already created a Time Ring yourself, Beerus-sama. (...) When you destroyed Zamasu, another world where Zamasu wasn't destroyed was born". For me it's a little illogical 'cause actually the new timeline should be the one where Zamasu WAS destroyed. It was original unaltered flow of time where Zamasu wasn't destroyed and became Black, but I see that Toriyama has a totally different, original point of view at this matter.
So it's like, when you change the timeline, the changed one is the main, and the original events become the alternate timelines? It's so complicated now ;o
Wiss doesn't know how Black was created, so he said exactly what you said but with other words.
But that confused me too, how did Bills created a new timeline if he never travelled in time?

So this should be how timelines are right now
1- Universe 12 mortal created it
2- Future Trunks timeline where Black appears
3- DBS Main Timeline
4- Cell's timeline
5- Black's timeline (Wiss was talking about this timeline when he said that Beerus created a new timeline, and the timeline created was #3)
6- New Future timeline, where Trunks and Mai are going now.
There are 7 timelines. There's this unseen timeline that Trunks from Cell's timeline visited.
Plus, there are now 7 timings which kind of confirms that. The sixth was created by Beerus (as showed in the last episode) + now they created also this new Trunks' timeline without Black. It is so super-confusing :D
There are only 6 timelines.
What unseen timeline are you talking about? I always assumed that Trunks from #4 went to timeline #3

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Re: Timeline chart

Post by szopman » Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:41 pm

Alee9977 wrote:
szopman wrote:
Alee9977 wrote:
Wiss doesn't know how Black was created, so he said exactly what you said but with other words.
But that confused me too, how did Bills created a new timeline if he never travelled in time?

So this should be how timelines are right now
1- Universe 12 mortal created it
2- Future Trunks timeline where Black appears
3- DBS Main Timeline
4- Cell's timeline
5- Black's timeline (Wiss was talking about this timeline when he said that Beerus created a new timeline, and the timeline created was #3)
6- New Future timeline, where Trunks and Mai are going now.
There are 7 timelines. There's this unseen timeline that Trunks from Cell's timeline visited.
Plus, there are now 7 timings which kind of confirms that. The sixth was created by Beerus (as showed in the last episode) + now they created also this new Trunks' timeline without Black. It is so super-confusing :D
There are only 6 timelines.
What unseen timeline are you talking about? I always assumed that Trunks from #4 went to timeline #3
I'm talking about the timeline where Cell didn't show up. Trunks returned from this timeline, destroyed the Androids and was killed by Cell (because he didn't know that Cell even exists since he didn't show up in the 'past'.

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Re: Timeline chart

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:54 pm

So is my chart accurate?
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Re: Timeline chart

Post by Will » Sun Nov 20, 2016 2:33 pm

Look pretty good.

So in Black Timeline, If Black didn't blow up the earth and kill Dende, that mean there's Dragon Ball there, so this must be happening :D :
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