Tagoma is possibly still alive

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Tagoma is possibly still alive

Post by mecha3000 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:33 am

Tagoma possibly still lives......... as a frog. Yeah, I just checked about this on DB Wiki. Honestly, I think it'd be an interesting mini-arc (consisting of the same amount of episodes as the Potaufeu Arc) or even just one episode of Tagoma returning. The way Tagoma was reintroduced as a sadistic badass in Super felt wasted as soon as Ginyu took his body. I feel like if Tagoma was re-introduced, he could really shine as a villain instead of an underling. If anyone reading this is familiar with Naruto, there was a character named Mizuki who appeared in the first episode and later after the canon material ended - Mizuki got to headline his own arc. I feel the same thing could happen to Tagoma. I know some fans are going to oppose this because Tagoma doesn't know how to change bodies like Ginyu - but if Trunks can learn the Mafuba from a video then perhaps: Tagoma can learn how to switch bodies? But then again, many fans have been theorizing that Mafuba is not AT ALL a hard technique to learn (unlike Body Change might be) so I don't know. Also, we don't need to add more bs reasons for characters learning moves so easily, I guess.

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Re: Tagoma is possibly still alive

Post by Ki Breaker » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:44 am

Till now, body change is a Ginyu specific technique.. like tokitobashi is hit specific..
You cannot simply learn them.

Mafuba on the other hand is a technique related to ki manipulation.. see it's explanation on wiki if you don't know..
It's basically taking your very essence on your hands and using it all to seal the enemy.. hence you die..
But as you grow stronger than the person you are sealing, you don't die..
So learning that technique is possible but learning special techniques of mutants is not..

Tagoma isn't learning body change, so if an episode of seeing a frog leap is okay then yes tagoma is alive..
He is essentially dead to the plot though
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Re: Tagoma is possibly still alive

Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:09 pm

mecha3000 wrote:Yeah, I just checked about this on DB Wiki.
Don't do that in the future.

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Re: Tagoma is possibly still alive

Post by ChronoTwigger » Tue Nov 22, 2016 7:36 pm

Well, I CAN FINALLY SAY SOMETHING SMART :shock:
In fact, it wasn't Ginyu using body change technique on Tagoma, but the opposite.
As a frog, Ginyu never used the technique because cannot say the magic word "BODY CHANGE". He waited for someone able to say it in alien language he wrote in the ground.
So body change was used by Tagoma in Ginyu.
It's more of a magical word than a ki technique.

That also mean Tagoma can't body change if no one say that alien words and to my knowledge it's hard some Frieza soldier will ever show up again...
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Re: Tagoma is possibly still alive

Post by TekTheNinja » Thu Nov 24, 2016 2:53 am

Interesting idea, but Tagoma was a wasted character and will sadly most likely remain wasted. Ginyu was wasted too honestly. He just appeared and then got one shotted by Vegeta. Lame as fuck. Tagoma or Ginyu should have had an epic fight scene with Gotenks or Gohan or Piccolo, or SOMEONE! Not just gotten one shotted. Vegeta shouldn't have been the one to kill him either. He shoulda killed Frieza, but they fucked the ending too with Whis ex machina and Goku swooping in to kill steal. Damn I hate the choices made for RoF.

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Re: Tagoma is possibly still alive

Post by Lionel » Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:03 pm

Similar fates were bequeathed to Cui and Dodoria when they were hastily killed by Vegeta without much extensive development. So when you propose a resurgent appearance for Tagoma, my question then involves the worth and desirability of that scenario. What does he offer to the story at this point besides a stroll down memory lane and some potential shenanigans with the subsidiary characters? His background's connection to Freeza and the Planet Trade Organisation no long carries any weight as they're either dead or defunct. About the only thing he could do is raise some hell on a limited scale before inevitably getting killed by Goku, Vegeta, or Gohan and Piccolo now as they should both be strong enough to contend with him -- that's assuming Tagoma could even reacquire his old "body of steel". It was destroyed a short while back and I can't see why anyone would desire for it to be revived into the mortal realm.

No, the most I can envision, personally, is some frog shenanigans à la Ginyu Frog during Toei made filler.

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Re: Tagoma is possibly still alive

Post by Fionordequester » Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:35 pm

Lionel wrote:Similar fates were bequeathed to Cui and Dodoria when they were hastily killed by Vegeta without much extensive development. So when you propose a resurgent appearance for Tagoma, my question then involves the worth and desirability of that scenario. What does he offer to the story at this point besides a stroll down memory lane and some potential shenanigans with the subsidiary characters? His background's connection to Freeza and the Planet Trade Organisation no long carries any weight as they're either dead or defunct. About the only thing he could do is raise some hell on a limited scale before inevitably getting killed by Goku, Vegeta, or Gohan and Piccolo now as they should both be strong enough to contend with him -- that's assuming Tagoma could even reacquire his old "body of steel". It was destroyed a short while back and I can't see why anyone would desire for it to be revived into the mortal realm.

No, the most I can envision, personally, is some frog shenanigans à la Ginyu Frog during Toei made filler.
Translation wrote:Cui and Dodoria were also killed without much development, so I don't know if it'd be worthwhile to have Tagoma return. What's he got beside nostalgia and some potentially comedic moments with the secondary characters? His connection to Freeza and his empire doesn't mean anything, as they're all dead. I GUESS he could cause some havoc before inevitably getting killed by one of the stronger heroes -- and that's assuming Tagoma could even get his old "body of steel". It was already destroyed recently, and I don't know why anyone'd want to bring it back to life.

Nah; the guy'd probably just be played for laughs, like how Ginyu Frog was used in DBZ filler.
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