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Sharingan Vegeta

Post by Dragonball Black » Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:32 pm

I was just thinking of this, but a Vegeta equipped with the powers of Sharingan would literally be unstoppable. For those of you guys who don't know what the Sharingan is. Basically it's an eye power from naruto that allows the user to copy their opponents moves and techniques while also unlocking a powerful form called Susanno which essentially is like the giant bird shield thing that Merged Zamasu has at the end of the Goku Black arc. And let me not forget the amazing powers of illusion and the mangekyo. Giving this to Vegeta would have allowed him to not only defeat Goku in the Saiyan Saga. But to be able to go toe to toe with final form frieza. Am I boasting this too much or do you agree? So basically I wanted to discuss what might have ended up differently if he had this gift in all the sagas. What would it mean to his character. And what cool other anime abilities would you give to Dragonball characters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJCCuEor2W0
I made a video on this topic about what I think this fusion would change in dragonball.
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Re: Sharingan Vegeta

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:43 pm

I don't get the point. You could say the same of any of the higher tear characters. Even Piccolo could be pretty high on the proverbial ladder.
Basically, I don't disagree, but so what? What should we be discussing?
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Post by Dragonball Black » Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:47 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:I don't get the point. You could say the same of any of the higher tear characters. Even Piccolo could be pretty high on the proverbial ladder.
Basically, I don't disagree, but so what? What should we be discussing?
Oh my bad, so basically I wanted to discuss what might have ended up differently if he had this gift in all the sagas. What would it mean to his character. And what cool other anime abilities would you give to Dragonball characters.
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Re: Sharingan Vegeta

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:53 pm

Dragonball Black wrote:
Jinzoningen MULE wrote:I don't get the point. You could say the same of any of the higher tear characters. Even Piccolo could be pretty high on the proverbial ladder.
Basically, I don't disagree, but so what? What should we be discussing?
Oh my bad, so basically I wanted to discuss what might have ended up differently if he had this gift in all the sagas. What would it mean to his character. And what cool other anime abilities would you give to Dragonball characters.
But don't we know the answer already? He would have won every battle he fought up until at least Freeza. That ability is overpowered af.
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Re: Sharingan Vegeta

Post by Dragonball Black » Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:00 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
Dragonball Black wrote:
Jinzoningen MULE wrote:I don't get the point. You could say the same of any of the higher tear characters. Even Piccolo could be pretty high on the proverbial ladder.
Basically, I don't disagree, but so what? What should we be discussing?
Oh my bad, so basically I wanted to discuss what might have ended up differently if he had this gift in all the sagas. What would it mean to his character. And what cool other anime abilities would you give to Dragonball characters.
But don't we know the answer already? He would have won every battle he fought up until at least Freeza. That ability is overpowered af.
God no offense but your boring, bro do you think he would have even used it. His pride might be too big for it. Its winning in more of a ninja way and not a warrior way. Vegeta's honor is too high.
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Re: Sharingan Vegeta

Post by Helios518 » Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:02 pm

DBZ character would benefit little with the Sharingan because it needs chakra (at least every genjustu minus Infinite Tsukiyomi is chakra based) and enemies to have chakra to work. It's like saying Naruto with the genki dama would be OP except it wouldn't work because the lack of ki and genki existing in the Narutoverse.
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Post by ChronoTwigger » Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:12 pm

A: write the name of someone and the dude DIE is not available.
B: wearing an armor and tap to cosmo energy is not available.
C: stretching your arms and cry and shout meaningless for 25 episodes in a row is not available
D: give humanoid forms to secret and creative powers is not available
E: having people implode thanks to secret martial arts is not available
F: use your DETERMINATION is no more available

So, whatever, I just hope DB simply stay with usual punch punch kick teleport punch stuff with some unexplainable beam scattered all over. That simple thing was enough to rule the scene for ages.
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:27 pm

Helios518 wrote:DBZ character would benefit little with the Sharingan because it needs chakra (at least every genjustu minus Infinite Tsukiyomi is chakra based) and enemies to have chakra to work. It's like saying Naruto with the genki dama would be OP except it wouldn't work because the lack of ki and genki existing in the Narutoverse.
Chakra and Chi are similar, arguably identical concepts in both reality and most shonen fantasy. Practically interchangeable in this context.
Dragonball Black wrote:God no offense but your boring, bro do you think he would have even used it. His pride might be too big for it. Its winning in more of a ninja way and not a warrior way. Vegeta's honor is too high.
Intelligent is the word you were looking for. And yes, he would use it. He was willing to ambush Freeza's men, throw dirt in Zarbon's eyes, use an unfair transformation against Goku the second he started losing, and I'm sure there are other things I've missed. He's not as prideful as his speeches would have you believe.
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Re: Sharingan Vegeta

Post by Helios518 » Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:44 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
Helios518 wrote:DBZ character would benefit little with the Sharingan because it needs chakra (at least every genjustu minus Infinite Tsukiyomi is chakra based) and enemies to have chakra to work. It's like saying Naruto with the genki dama would be OP except it wouldn't work because the lack of ki and genki existing in the Narutoverse.
Chakra and Chi are similar, arguably identical concepts. Practically interchangeable in this context.
Can be used very similarly but not the same considering their origins. regular uses, elements, different ways to jump start an attack, chakra has a spiritual component unlike ki, and chakra isn't universal with life forms in Naruto unlike DB's ki.
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Post by Souheil21 » Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:32 am

he would probably kill Goku in their fight since he would know his every move before he made it.

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Post by Pantalones » Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:43 am

chakra has a spiritual component unlike ki
Ki is made up of things like "bravery" and "being in one's right mind" in addition to the more commonly mentioned genki (basically youth, life energy, that sort of thing.) It's a combination of various physical/mental/spiritual aspects.

But yeah, considering that chakra actually has a specific "origin story" in Naruto rather than being a naturally existing force in all living beings the way ki is, I wouldn't say they're completely interchangeable. They're close enough that some elements of chakra/ki's functions can be accomplished with the other, but there's probably some things you can do with one that wouldn't work the same (or at all) with the other form of energy, too.

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Post by Dragonball Black » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:32 am

Dragonball Wiki on Ki
Ki is also known as "latent energy" or "fighting power." Which directly translates as "life force." This force is a tangible energy inside every living being, with its major focus being in the center of the body. By drawing it out, an individual is able to manipulate it and use it outside the body.

Naruto Wiki on Chakra
Since being spread by Hagoromo, better known as the Sage of Six Paths, chakra has become a form of life energy that all individuals produce to some degree; those who run out of chakra will die.

Both are life force energy used to sustain life but can be materialized outside the body. So to me, this means that they are the same thing. So the characters in Naurto and Dragonball could use either one as long as they learned each others techniques. So, Vegeta can use Sharingan. More than likley mastering it faster tan it takes any uchiha. It be like naruto's size of charka, on steroid using sharingan.
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Re: Sharingan Vegeta

Post by FoolsGil » Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:12 am

Personally, I think the inventiveness of Naruto's jutsus would do wonders in the world of Dragonball. Give Krillin the 8 gates for example.

On to the topic, while there are very few characters that I would wonder about how copying will benefit Vegeta, if his senses can keep up, he could keep track of anyone faster than him. Hypnotism and Illusion casting would be an interesting way to take down an opponent, though it would slow down the action, and make it less like the DBZ we all know and love.

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Post by Helios518 » Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:51 am

Dragonball Black wrote:Dragonball Wiki on Ki
Ki is also known as "latent energy" or "fighting power." Which directly translates as "life force." This force is a tangible energy inside every living being, with its major focus being in the center of the body. By drawing it out, an individual is able to manipulate it and use it outside the body.

Naruto Wiki on Chakra
Since being spread by Hagoromo, better known as the Sage of Six Paths, chakra has become a form of life energy that all individuals produce to some degree; those who run out of chakra will die.

Both are life force energy used to sustain life but can be materialized outside the body. So to me, this means that they are the same thing. So the characters in Naurto and Dragonball could use either one as long as they learned each others techniques. So, Vegeta can use Sharingan. More than likley mastering it faster tan it takes any uchiha. It be like naruto's size of charka, on steroid using sharingan.
The first bold thing is proven false already because it is shown that some natural living beings don't even have chakra. The second bold thing is just asinine because it's like saying goat's blood is the same as octopus' blood, yeah they're both blood but they're not the same or interchangeable. In extension to the second thing, If they were the same then Ninjas in Naruto wouldn't need to do relatively complex hand formations compared to DB and would've seen DB characters use elemental attacks for half of their attacks.
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Post by Doctor. » Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:48 am

Being able to predict your opponent's movements is irrelevant because if you're not fast enough, you can't react. Being able to copy abilities is irrelevant because DB characters can already copy abilities. Having a Susano'o is irrelevant because it's just an extension of your durability.

Basically a useless ability for DB characters.

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Post by Dragonball Black » Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:08 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJCCuEor2W0
I made a video on this topic about what I think this fusion would change in dragonball.
As for its usefulness, we havent seen any of the z fighters being attacked by anybody using illusions really, also a fire that never burns. And susanno would have as much chance to sbe effective as Zumasu's bird thing.
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Re: Sharingan Vegeta

Post by Helios518 » Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:12 pm

Dragonball Black wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJCCuEor2W0
I made a video on this topic about what I think this fusion would change in dragonball.
As for its usefulness, we havent seen any of the z fighters being attacked by anybody using illusions really, also a fire that never burns. And susanno would have as much chance to sbe effective as Zumasu's bird thing.
Illusions are useless as literally the only thing somewhat useful there. That fire could still be pushed off from a persons body by just cloaking yourself with chakra. Saying the Susanoo would have as much effectiveness as Zamasu's avian is wrong due to lack of evidence if anything the Susanoo is just a big target like Piccolo's giant technique.
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