I heard this rumor that toriyama doesn't want to dragon Ball anymore

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I heard this rumor that toriyama doesn't want to dragon Ball anymore

Post by Totamo » Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:50 pm

I was on another forum and yeah someone brought this up. I know he is 60 but do you think this is true.

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Re: I heard this rumor that toriyama doesn't want to dragon Ball anymore

Post by Totamo » Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:54 pm

my bad, I meant write dragon Ball anymore

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Re: I heard this rumor that toriyama doesn't want to dragon Ball anymore

Post by sintzu » Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:03 pm

The rumor is from a trusted source and it's because of how Toei have been handeling Super but he might've changed his mind thanks to the Zamasu arc.

If the next arc is announced as his last then it'll likely mean that he doesn't like Toei's direction with it but hopefully that won't happen.
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Re: I heard this rumor that toriyama doesn't want to dragon Ball anymore

Post by eledoremassis02 » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:33 pm

sintzu wrote:The rumor is from a trusted source and it's because of how Toei have been handeling Super but he might've changed his mind thanks to the Zamasu arc.

If the next arc is announced as his last then it'll likely mean that he doesn't like Toei's direction with it but hopefully that won't happen.
If that happens I wonder if he'll continue with the manga? Would be interesting to see them branch off

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Re: I heard this rumor that toriyama doesn't want to dragon Ball anymore

Post by omaro34 » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:34 pm

Until we hear from Toriyama himself, it's all speculation. Although he rarely gives out interviews so that's unlikely.
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Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:54 pm

Until Kei17 gives us an actual source, there's no reason to believe it. He has publicly hated Super since it started, so take it what you will.
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Re: I heard this rumor that toriyama doesn't want to dragon Ball anymore

Post by TheMikado » Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:17 pm

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Until Kei17 gives us an actual source, there's no reason to believe it. He has publicly hated Super since it started, so take it what you will.
And expressed a fondness for GT
Just wanted to get that in there :)

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:20 pm

Toriyama has about 4-5 months to write an arc and draw new chatacters, so that aspect is not the problem. We can see that Toei are getting better with art and animation so I doubt he will not be moaning about that anymore. So I say he will be doing Dragonball for a long time now.

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Re: I heard this rumor that toriyama doesn't want to dragon Ball anymore

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:23 pm

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Until Kei17 gives us an actual source, there's no reason to believe it. He has publicly hated Super since it started, so take it what you will.
Yeah not sure why people believe things he says. He seems to have a bit of a dodgy reputation on the site so I don't really trust this person at all.

Also this was said Pre-Black arc and he wrote the Black arc and now the next arc if he wanted out then he would have been out by now.

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Post by Totamo » Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:43 pm

TheMikado wrote:
DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Until Kei17 gives us an actual source, there's no reason to believe it. He has publicly hated Super since it started, so take it what you will.
And expressed a fondness for GT
Just wanted to get that in there :)
well he didcall that a side story and if you look at super as a side story, you could have a lot more fun with this

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Re: I heard this rumor that toriyama doesn't want to dragon Ball anymore

Post by VegettoEX » Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:59 pm

The quote from Toriyama about not wanting to draw Dragon Ball anymore comes from a 2003 interview with Viz's Shonen Jump magazine, in response to a question about drawing the (then new) kanzenban cover illustrations:
Akira Toriyama wrote: To draw it again for the first time in so long produced a very complicated mix of emotions, combining nostalgia with the feeling that I don't want to draw Dragon Ball any more.
Obviously, Toriyama has returned to the franchise quite a few times since then, and has given very excited and involved answers regarding all sorts of aspects. His presumed dissatisfaction with aspects of Dragon Ball Super come from his introduction to this year's 30th anniversary "Super History Book":
Akira Toriyama wrote:I had put Dragon Ball behind me, but seeing how much that live-action film ticked me off, and how I revised that script for the anime movie and complained about the quality of the TV anime, I suppose somewhere along the line it's become a series I like too much to ever leave alone.
As you can see, even there it's wrapped up with a feeling of pride and continued involvement.

The only other thing I'd add is that you may be misconstruing Toriyama's self-deprecating style and quasi-(earned!)-laziness when he says things like he's happy to toss out outlines and sketches and not have to do all the heavy-lifting, so to speak. He paid his dues on a weekly series in the 80s and 90s with two blockbuster hits; he's never had a desire to go back to that insane schedule.
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Re: I heard this rumor that toriyama doesn't want to dragon Ball anymore

Post by SSJ Ace Son » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:26 pm

I'm sure it will always be something he cherishes in his heart forever and ever. he is getting old. he has toyotaro drawing the manga... but look! he made dragon ball super! I'm sure when he passes on the series will probably end or he will pass it on to his child or toyotaro. :) either way I'm sure everything will be fine. :clap:
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Post by SSJ Ace Son » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:33 pm

i hope the series lasts forever tho. :D :crazy:
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Re: I heard this rumor that toriyama doesn't want to dragon Ball anymore

Post by SSJ Ace Son » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:36 pm

dbz was my childhood. its always apart of my life. even tho I'm a girl.lol. i get teased for it but as a proud saiyajin i will love the series no matter what :clap:
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Post by Ajay » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:38 pm

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Re: I heard this rumor that toriyama doesn't want to dragon Ball anymore

Post by Hit!! » Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:56 pm

Saying that Toriyama is lazy is really disconsiderate and down right disrespectful. Few people could withstand the pressure he went through for years when the original dragon ball and DBZ was airing in the late 80's and early 90's.

People don't understand that Toriyama is old and tired, he's not young like he was when he was writing the Piccolo Daimao or the Freeza Arc of the original manga. And things got worse for him during the cell arc.

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Re: I heard this rumor that toriyama doesn't want to dragon Ball anymore

Post by alexhermit » Sun Dec 04, 2016 12:47 am

I guess him complaining about the "quality of the TV anime" could be interpreted multiple ways, either the bad animation in early BoG saga or the actual writing itself which i dont think was the case, since it does have a toriyama feel to it. While the reason why the DBZ was much better is cause Toriyama writing was constantly being influenced by Jump editors and he took it more seriously.

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Re: I heard this rumor that toriyama doesn't want to dragon Ball anymore

Post by TheMohawkAndroid » Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:07 am

He can stop anytime he wants...or as soon as I give him his freedom back.

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Re: I heard this rumor that toriyama doesn't want to dragon Ball anymore

Post by Faustus » Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:01 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Until Kei17 gives us an actual source, there's no reason to believe it. He has publicly hated Super since it started, so take it what you will.
Yeah not sure why people believe things he says. He seems to have a bit of a dodgy reputation on the site so I don't really trust this person at all.

Also this was said Pre-Black arc and he wrote the Black arc and now the next arc if he wanted out then he would have been out by now.
Kei17? To the best of my (scanty) knowledge, the opposite is true.

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