Would someone please explain something for me (SSR).

[Lord Frieza]

Ok so I was looking up Super Saiyan Rose and I think I may have missed something during the arc.

Ok so apparently I missed out on Black's Rose form basically being just super saiyan? Is that right because the pink hair and godly ki say otherwise? I think I'm missing an explanation here.

[PsionicWarrior]

Maybe I'm wrong but from what I understood SSJR is the evil-aligned equivalent of SSJB lol

[Lord Frieza]

Maybe I'm wrong but from what I understood SSJR is the evil-aligned equivalent of SSJB lol

Well thats what I thought myself but then some told me that SSR is just Black as a SS with his God Ki seeping into it and making ti look different.

Know I personally think that this is true to a degree, because thats kind of what SSB is. Goku and Vegeta tap into godly ki and manifest it through their SS forms creating the new, more powerful SSB. Black however dose not tap into the same source of god ki they do, rather I think he taps into the god ki inherent in Zamasu's soul and because of Zamasu's now corrupt nature or because of the body swap (maybe both and more) SSR is created.

But I cannot accept that is just a basic SS transformation thats had its appearance alone altered by Zamasu's god ki.

[Lord Beerus]

But I cannot accept that is just a basic SS transformation thats had its appearance alone altered by Zamasu's god ki.

Why not? That's basically what it is. Goku's SSJ transformation that was specifically alter by Zamasu himself when he allowed his God Ki to seep into the form. Black stated that he fully mastered Goku's power to be able to achieve Super Saiyan Rosé.

[Lord Frieza]

But I cannot accept that is just a basic SS transformation thats had its appearance alone altered by Zamasu's god ki.

Why not? That's basically what it is. Goku's SSJ transformation that was specifically alter by Zamasu himself when he allowed his God Ki to seep into the form. Black stated that he fully mastered Goku's power to be able to achieve Super Saiyan Rosé.

Well its just a bit disappointing, SSR just being a pallet swapped super saiyan and a x50 power boost just makes the form a little less interesting. I like Black because because he's not only a dark reflection of Goku but also of Zamasu. Future Zamasu represents Zamasu's godly ideals and arrogance while Black represents his hypocrisy and corruption. One is the Yang, the other the Yin of this fallen God. I liked to think that his Rose form was a further embodiment of this, the unnatural blend of SS and Kaioshin God ki coming together to make something even stronger and corrupted.

[dragonballgeek]

I'm pretty sure SSJR is just SS for Black.

The reason I say that is because Zamasu already has Gok Ki.

We got SSJB because Goku and Vegeta tapped into God Ki. So why would Zamasu need to do anything besides trigger the SSJ inside of Gokus body?

[Kishido]

It is as much explained as Trunks ridiculous form

[TheMikado]

It is as much explained as Trunks ridiculous form

Pretty much. The official answer is that we don't know.

[Marlowe89]

Super Saiyan Blue is also technically just Super Saiyan but with God ki imbued into the form, so this whole topic is really semantically kind of meaningless. All of the new forms recently have just been different versions of SS1.

[Lord Frieza]

Super Saiyan Blue is also technically just Super Saiyan but with God ki imbued into the form, so this whole topic is really semantically kind of meaningless. All of the new forms recently have just been different versions of SS1.

Not really because what I want to know is...

Is SSR a darker version of SSB, a SS that is empowered by Zamasu's godly ki or just SS with pink hair dye and no power increase beyond the basic 50x?

[ekrolo2]

Super Saiyan Blue is also technically just Super Saiyan but with God ki imbued into the form, so this whole topic is really semantically kind of meaningless. All of the new forms recently have just been different versions of SS1.

Not really because what I want to know is...

Is SSR a darker version of SSB, a SS that is empowered by Zamasu's godly ki or just SS with pink hair dye and no power increase beyond the basic 50x?

It's already explained: it's Super Saiyan powered by Zamasu's Ki through Goku's body

Black's ki basically alters it's appearance the same way Baby being in Vegeta's body morphed his various SS forms appearances.

[Lord Frieza]

Super Saiyan Blue is also technically just Super Saiyan but with God ki imbued into the form, so this whole topic is really semantically kind of meaningless. All of the new forms recently have just been different versions of SS1.

Not really because what I want to know is...

Is SSR a darker version of SSB, a SS that is empowered by Zamasu's godly ki or just SS with pink hair dye and no power increase beyond the basic 50x?

It's already explained: it's Super Saiyan powered by Zamasu's Ki through Goku's body

Black's ki basically alters it's appearance the same way Baby being in Vegeta's body morphed his various SS forms appearances.

Ok thank you.

[WhatIfTheories]

Outside of the explanations the reason why we saw Rose in the first place was because Bandai wanted to make Pink Candy and sell it. So all marketing first and foremost gotta make that money.

[Doctor.]

Toriyama's explanation is "can turn Super Saiyan with a slightly different color" so take that as you will.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Super Saiyan Rose is Black's regular Super Saiyan, but his hair turn pink instead of golden because he has non-Saiyan ki. Black's body is a mortal body though, and he doesn't have godly ki in his base & SSR forms.

It is like Broli's regular Super Saiyan & Legendary Super Saiyan forms, where his hair turned purple & green in each form respectively because of the mind-control device's influence.