How far was the Great Elder from Freeza's spaceship? Timewise, would it have been viable for Piccolo to get unlocked?

Discussion, generally of an in-universe nature, regarding any aspect of the franchise (including movies, spin-offs, etc.) such as: techniques, character relationships, internal back-history, its universe, and more.
User avatar
Angelus
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1971
Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:19 am
Location: Dragonball Multiverse
Contact:

How far was the Great Elder from Freeza's spaceship? Timewise, would it have been viable for Piccolo to get unlocked?

Post by Angelus » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:26 pm

Before fusing with Piccolo, Nail could have pointed him at the direction of Guru's house. Well, would it have made much of a difference anyways if for example, the unlock from Guru boosted Piccolo's power to be on par with 3rd form Frieza instead of just being on par with 2nd form Frieza?

I know Piccolo was in a rush but Nail wasn't that extremely far from Guru's house anyways. Remember, Nail flew off from Guru's house and led Frieza somewhere to fight, in order to stall Frieza. But that location wouldn't be so extremely far off from Guru's house. Piccolo was already at the location where Nail and Frieza fought. Meaning, Guru was at a significant distance away, but not extremely far. Wasn't Piccolo already going to that direction anyways? How far off is Guru's house from where Frieza's spaceship was?
Last edited by Angelus on Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
LuckyCat
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1217
Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2014 6:28 pm
Location: The Sacred Land
Contact:

Re: Why didn't Nail suggest to Piccolo to drop by Guru's house to get unlocked?

Post by LuckyCat » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:30 pm

Either

a) Piccolo wouldn't need it after fusing with Nail, because Nail had been unlocked; or

b) Guru was in the opposite direction to where Piccolo wanted to go, and it wouldn't be worth the trip; or

c) Nail knew Guru was dead or near-dead at this point.

User avatar
Angelus
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1971
Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:19 am
Location: Dragonball Multiverse
Contact:

Re: How far was Guru from Frieza's spaceship? Timewise, would it have been viable for Piccolo to go to Guru to get unloc

Post by Angelus » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:32 pm

Guru was still alive enough to live for a short while on Earth (before dying of obesity :lol:)

User avatar
LuckyCat
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1217
Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2014 6:28 pm
Location: The Sacred Land
Contact:

Re: How far was Guru from Frieza's spaceship? Timewise, would it have been viable for Piccolo to go to Guru to get unloc

Post by LuckyCat » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:48 pm

Angelus wrote:Guru was still alive enough to live for a short while on Earth (before dying of obesity :lol:)
Guru was wished back with Earth's dragonballs for that period. He technically died of a broken heart, but his weight might not have helped the matter. :P

User avatar
Angelus
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1971
Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:19 am
Location: Dragonball Multiverse
Contact:

Re: How far was Guru from Frieza's spaceship? Timewise, would it have been viable for Piccolo to go to Guru to get unloc

Post by Angelus » Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:32 pm

I don't even know how he got so obese when the guy only drinks water :lol:

Namek's water must have a lot of calories in it

User avatar
dragon boss z
I Live Here
Posts: 2055
Joined: Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:19 am

Re: How far was Guru from Frieza's spaceship? Timewise, would it have been viable for Piccolo to go to Guru to get unloc

Post by dragon boss z » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:01 pm

I don't think Piccolo would want to waist anymore time. Frieza could of killed Gohan or Krillin at any time.

User avatar
nickzambuto
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1705
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2015 7:53 pm

Re: How far was Guru from Frieza's spaceship? Timewise, would it have been viable for Piccolo to go to Guru to get unloc

Post by nickzambuto » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:29 pm

Even if Guru was right next to Nail, Piccolo basically showed up in the nick of time as it was. If he wasted even a minute getting boosted, Freeza might have killed Gohan, Krillin or Vegeta.

Plus, wasn't Guru already dead by this point? He died right before first form Freeza showed up to confront Vegeta.

User avatar
Angelus
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1971
Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:19 am
Location: Dragonball Multiverse
Contact:

Re: How far was Guru from Frieza's spaceship? Timewise, would it have been viable for Piccolo to go to Guru to get unloc

Post by Angelus » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:59 pm

Ohhh. Yeah, was Guru already dead at this time?

User avatar
dbgtFO
Kicks it Old-School
Posts: 7984
Joined: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:07 pm
Contact:

Re: How far was Guru from Frieza's spaceship? Timewise, would it have been viable for Piccolo to go to Guru to get unloc

Post by dbgtFO » Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:44 pm

nickzambuto wrote: Plus, wasn't Guru already dead by this point? He died right before first form Freeza showed up to confront Vegeta.
Angelus wrote:Ohhh. Yeah, was Guru already dead at this time?
Indeed he was.
The order of events:

1. Piccolo gets wished back.
2. Piccolo gets transported to Namek.
3. Gohan, Dende and Krillin fret over not having him arrive at their location, but then Vegeta shows up and manages to convince them to grant him immortality, but The Eldest dies and so too does Porunga.
4. Freeza shows up and powers up.
5. Piccolo feels this before finding Nail and you know the rest.
dragon boss z wrote:I don't think Piccolo would want to waist anymore time. Frieza could of killed Gohan or Krillin at any time.
That is a good one and I can't even tell if it was intentional :lol:

User avatar
Angelus
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1971
Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:19 am
Location: Dragonball Multiverse
Contact:

Re: How far was Guru from Frieza's spaceship? Timewise, would it have been viable for Piccolo to go to Guru to get unloc

Post by Angelus » Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:50 pm

And when the wish was made to Shenron to revive those killed by Frieza and his minions, Goku was already a SSJ? Refreshing my memory

User avatar
dbgtFO
Kicks it Old-School
Posts: 7984
Joined: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:07 pm
Contact:

Re: How far was Guru from Frieza's spaceship? Timewise, would it have been viable for Piccolo to go to Guru to get unloc

Post by dbgtFO » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:00 pm

Angelus wrote:And when the wish was made to Shenron to revive those killed by Frieza and his minions, Goku was already a SSJ? Refreshing my memory
Yes that is correct.
The wish made after Freeza had nuked Namek's core and after he had reached 100% power.

User avatar
dragon boss z
I Live Here
Posts: 2055
Joined: Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:19 am

Re: How far was Guru from Frieza's spaceship? Timewise, would it have been viable for Piccolo to go to Guru to get unloc

Post by dragon boss z » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:02 pm

dbgtFO wrote:
dragon boss z wrote:I don't think Piccolo would want to waist anymore time. Frieza could of killed Gohan or Krillin at any time.
That is a good one and I can't even tell if it was intentional :lol:
Did I make a joke or something without realizing it? The only thing I noticed is I used the wrong version of waste, lol.

User avatar
Angelus
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1971
Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:19 am
Location: Dragonball Multiverse
Contact:

Re: How far was Guru from Frieza's spaceship? Timewise, would it have been viable for Piccolo to go to Guru to get unloc

Post by Angelus » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:22 pm

Ohhh so the only plausible way for Piccolo to meet Guru on Namek was if he respawned near Guru's house

User avatar
dbgtFO
Kicks it Old-School
Posts: 7984
Joined: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:07 pm
Contact:

Re: How far was Guru from Frieza's spaceship? Timewise, would it have been viable for Piccolo to go to Guru to get unloc

Post by dbgtFO » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:31 pm

dragon boss z wrote:
dbgtFO wrote:
dragon boss z wrote:I don't think Piccolo would want to waist anymore time. Frieza could of killed Gohan or Krillin at any time.
That is a good one and I can't even tell if it was intentional :lol:
Did I make a joke or something without realizing it? The only thing I noticed is I used the wrong version of waste, lol.
Ah, it wasn't intentional.
And yeah it's waist. Thought it was a joke subtly pointing out The Eldest's fat waist, as Angelus talked a bit about His Fatness earlier.

User avatar
dragon boss z
I Live Here
Posts: 2055
Joined: Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:19 am

Re: How far was Guru from Frieza's spaceship? Timewise, would it have been viable for Piccolo to go to Guru to get unloc

Post by dragon boss z » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:55 pm

dbgtFO wrote:
dragon boss z wrote:
dbgtFO wrote:
That is a good one and I can't even tell if it was intentional :lol:
Did I make a joke or something without realizing it? The only thing I noticed is I used the wrong version of waste, lol.
Ah, it wasn't intentional.
And yeah it's waist. Thought it was a joke subtly pointing out The Eldest's fat waist, as Angelus talked a bit about His Fatness earlier.
Oh, lol.

User avatar
floofychan333
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1378
Joined: Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:03 pm
Location: Ottawa, Canada

Re: How far was Guru from Frieza's spaceship? Timewise, would it have been viable for Piccolo to go to Guru to get unloc

Post by floofychan333 » Fri Dec 09, 2016 7:25 pm

Angelus wrote:I don't even know how he got so obese when the guy only drinks water :lol:

Namek's water must have a lot of calories in it

Remember, he drank all the water on Namek. Team Four Star has taught us that as well as every lesson we need to know from life.

Also, Piccolo couldn't have gotten the power up because Guru had already died by the time Piccolo arrived.
"All of you. All of you must have KILL all the SEASONS!" -Dough (Tenshinhan), Speedy Dub of Movie 9.

"My opinion of Norihito's Sumitomo's new score is... well, very mixed. The stuff that's good is pretty darn good, but the stuff that's bad makes elevator music sound like Jerry freaking Goldsmith." -Kenisu

User avatar
Angelus
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1971
Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:19 am
Location: Dragonball Multiverse
Contact:

Re: How far was Guru from Frieza's spaceship? Timewise, would it have been viable for Piccolo to go to Guru to get unloc

Post by Angelus » Sat Dec 10, 2016 12:17 am

Piccolo arrived at mere minutes before Guru died. There was a little bit of time when Vegeta was forcing Dende to ask the immortality wish. And also Gohan and Krillin bickering. If Piccolo was lucky enough to get respawned at Guru's house, he would have had maybe 3 minutes before Guru died. Enough time for an unlock

User avatar
TheUltimateNinja
I Live Here
Posts: 4020
Joined: Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:17 pm

Re: How far was Guru from Frieza's spaceship? Timewise, would it have been viable for Piccolo to go to Guru to get unloc

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sat Dec 10, 2016 2:07 am

I doubt it would even make much of a difference, he most likely wouldn't gain enough power to stand up to third form Frieza.

User avatar
kinisking
I Live Here
Posts: 4987
Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2015 2:21 pm
Location: United States.

Re: How far was Guru from Frieza's spaceship? Timewise, would it have been viable for Piccolo to go to Guru to get unloc

Post by kinisking » Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:54 am

TheUltimateNinja wrote:I doubt it would even make much of a difference, he most likely wouldn't gain enough power to stand up to third form Frieza.
I disagree. The boost krillin got was like a ten times boost.
Jinzoningen MULE wrote: Maybe I should start making it a point not to comment when I'm not sure of something. Too many people know what they're talking about around here.
Disclaimer: I might get into a disagreement with you. Sometimes I might even get feisty about it. I'll never harbor negative feelings because of it though. I hope you feel the same way!
I made a bet with Alee9977 that Vegeta won't be beaten quickly by an opponent. If I lose, I switch my avatar to Vegeta getting beat by hit. If I win, he switches it to Vegeta holding Black by his hair. This will last a month.

User avatar
TheUltimateNinja
I Live Here
Posts: 4020
Joined: Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:17 pm

Re: How far was Guru from Frieza's spaceship? Timewise, would it have been viable for Piccolo to go to Guru to get unloc

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:00 am

kinisking wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:I doubt it would even make much of a difference, he most likely wouldn't gain enough power to stand up to third form Frieza.
I disagree. The boost krillin got was like a ten times boost.
We don't know if the potential unlock is actually a consistent multiplier, it may also simply be additive, Guru does have limits after all. At any rate, Given that 3rd form Frieza is easily several hundred thousands above Piccolo, I really don't think he can do it.

Post Reply