Are you satisfied with the direction Black?

[Captain Strawberry]

I personally would have preferred if it went to this direction that this sort of perhaps ancient beings (perhaps like Buu in age) infested Goku's body and was in alliance with Zamasu and maybe Future Zamasu from the present timeline was the one that unleashed this beast or something.

Maybe this being also embodied the hatred of Humanity/Ningen

Something like that I would preferred over two Zamasu's working together.

[Ki Breaker]

Yes I am pretty happy with how black turned out!
Another ancient being would be cool too, but what happened is a much better option.

[Cipher]

I was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed Zamasu by the end, and Black was definitely part of that. I can't think of a take on "evil" or possessed Goku I would have preferred to the very strange one we got.

It wasn't really an arc about someone possessing Goku's body. It was an arc about a crazy Kaioshin whose plans happened to require taking Goku's body to kick into gear (and all sorts of time-travel weirdness).

[Yomi]

Black was never boring.
I like him.

[Cetra]

I think the Zamasu saga would have gotten an incredibly great twist by showing that, as I have mentioned in another thread, Zamasu is so literally self-loving, that he really only loves himself. That means, not even any other Zamasu. So they could have made it like "okay, the other guy is a Zamasu so they can work together for a while but in the end their respective egocentric would be so high that they would eventually no longer care for each other". And that would have been great, because it would have resulted in an ultimate weakness and on so many levels, both literally and metaphorically shown "Zamasu is Zamasu's strength and weakness".

Oh, and I would not have let them deliberately be fused. For a guy who literally only loves himself, his own existence the most, destroying this existence and killing himself to create a new Zamasu is incredibly contradictory. It doesn't matter if the result is also a Zamasu. Apparently the story did set the priority of character a bit different but I would have made it a bit more logical from a psychological perspective.

[Captain Strawberry]

I was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed Zamasu by the end, and Black was definitely part of that. I can't think of a take on "evil" or possessed Goku I would have preferred to the very strange one we got.

Well another party possessing Goku's body is the same thing as Zamasu swapping bodies to GOku (atleast IMO)

[Yedis]

Yeah in hindsight Black being Zamasu made the most sense.

Towards the end of the arc it was revealed that Zamasu was so full of himself, that he should be the only God in the Universe(s), him brainwashing a mortal or working with another being would not have made sense since he wanted all mortals gone.

[GodKaio-Ken]

Honestly i just wish they had Black as the main villain minus Future Zamasu. I dont feel like immortal Zamasu brought enough to the plot or had enough story to him.

[Lord Beerus]

The revelation of who Black how he can to be really worked well given how much we learn the depths of Zamasu self-loathing. He literally thought the only other person in existence who could understand his goals or motive was himself from another timeline. That's a whole new level of narcissism. I loved that angle because it just added another layer to Zamasu's character as a whole.

[Boo Machine]

My only real complaint is that he was edged out by merged Zamasu. I would have liked it more if Black stayed the main villain on his own.

But aside from that Black was a way better character than I ever thought he was going to be. He was really fun every time he was on screen.

And Nozawa really killed it in this role. If you had told me last year that it was possible to make Gokus voice sound menacing and creepy I would have called you a lair.

[Lionel]

It's too much to expect for someone like Goku to become an idealogue and form his own depraved perception of life. He's not that sort of character. It's a binary black and white with the only the in-between concerning the violent satisfaction he can glean from fighting powerful characters of any moralistic leaning. So what we got was perhaps the best we could expect from a hypothetical "evil" Goku besides the retrogression of his mindset back into what was originally before turning into an amnesiac.

No doubt Black carried much of the arc with his darkly charisma and cheekiness. Purely on his own, Zamasu just became a twisted philosophical theoretician whom no one was going to give the time of day for besides Gowasu. His sanity was gradually devolving throughout the fight. It reached an all time low when he lost all perspective of what his original goals were and decided to raze the universe so that nothing but a macabre wasteland remains. I miss his naturalistic desire to see the world restored to its unadulterated state with only Mother Nature existing peacefully without the harmful influences of man. He fell into familiar old trappings of every Dragon Ball villain where they lose their composure and go on a mindless spree of brutality with nothing but the prospect of one-upping their opponent permeating their limited thought process.

Zamasu and Black continue to be two notable figureheads who dared point out the shortcomings of the protagonists. I will miss them greatly.

[Fionordequester]

It's too much to expect for someone like Goku to become a evil zealout with his own warped sense of justice. He's not that sort of character. The only semi-villianous thing he's got is how much joy he gets from fighting. So what we got was perhaps the best we could expect from a hypothetical "evil" Goku besides maybe his amnesia disappearing (causing him to succumb to his Saiyan programming).

No doubt Black carried much of the arc with his darkly charisma and cheekiness. Purely on his own, Zamasu just became a religious fanatic who rambled on and on about his own twisted philosophies; no one was going to give the time of day for besides Gowasu. His sanity was gradually devolving throughout the fight. It reached an all time low when he lost all perspective of what his original goals were and decided to raze the universe so that nothing but a macabre wasteland remains. I miss his naturalistic desire to see the world restored to its unadulterated state; with only Mother Nature existing peacefully. He fell into familiar old trappings of every Dragon Ball villain where they lose their composure and go on a mindless spree of brutality with nothing but the prospect of one-upping their opponent permeating their limited thought process.

Zamasu and Black continue to be two notable figureheads who dared point out the shortcomings of the protagonists. I will miss them greatly.

I have to say, Lionel did good this time !

[WittyUsername]

At first, I loved the idea of the arc and like most others, I thought Black was a really cool villain, and I even liked regular Zamasu. In hindsight though, the arc had its problems. The constant reliance on time travel was pretty annoying (time travel plots in general are really difficult to pull off properly), Zamasu's motives are actually pretty cliche when you stop to think about it, and the ending felt like an incredibly convenient cop-out. Also, I couldn't care less for the hijinks of the Pilaf gang as kids, nor was I all that interested in seeing Mai suddenly being this serious character/love-interest for Trunks.

Overall, I'd say the arc was fine, but I don't love it as much as I initially assumed I would.

[Beerus-sama]

Yes, I liked it. I think it was better than what we originally thought when the arc was announced. It made Zamasu more interesting and Black and Zamasu's combination was so much fun to see knowing that it was always him.

[SaiyanZ]

Hell no. Zamasu already is a terribly written character by taking Goku's body despite hating mortals and at least in the anime, calling what he does the justice of the gods, but then adding a meaningless mystery to the plot that is easily guessable from the get go? Just poor writing.

[Nano]

Hell no. Zamasu already is a terribly written character by taking Goku's body despite hating mortals and at least in the anime, calling what he does the justice of the gods, but then adding a meaningless mystery to the plot that is easily guessable from the get go? Just poor writing.

Wtf are you doing?! You can't say stuff like that here lol. Zamasu arc was the best thing since sliced cheese lmao. It was soooo good they made a chart to explain it.

This arc sucked. At the end when it's all said and done, GT will be viewed as being better than Super... And that's saiyan something.

[The Patrolman]

Hell no. Zamasu already is a terribly written character by taking Goku's body despite hating mortals and at least in the anime, calling what he does the justice of the gods, but then adding a meaningless mystery to the plot that is easily guessable from the get go? Just poor writing.

Wtf are you doing?! You can't say stuff like that here lol. Zamasu arc was the best thing since sliced cheese lmao. It was soooo good they made a chart to explain it.

This arc sucked. At the end when it's all said and done, GT will be viewed as being better than Super... And that's saiyan something.

I respect your opinion but this arc destroys anything GT had done

[Nano]

Hell no. Zamasu already is a terribly written character by taking Goku's body despite hating mortals and at least in the anime, calling what he does the justice of the gods, but then adding a meaningless mystery to the plot that is easily guessable from the get go? Just poor writing.

Wtf are you doing?! You can't say stuff like that here lol. Zamasu arc was the best thing since sliced cheese lmao. It was soooo good they made a chart to explain it.

This arc sucked. At the end when it's all said and done, GT will be viewed as being better than Super... And that's saiyan something.

I respect your opinion but this arc destroys anything GT had done

Idk about that. The Bebi arc had some of the best fighting/choreography ever. Because of the horrible power scaling most of the fights in the Zamasu arc didn't even make sense.

I might be nitpicking... Maybe. We'll see in the end.

[buutenks]

Wtf are you doing?! You can't say stuff like that here lol. Zamasu arc was the best thing since sliced cheese lmao. It was soooo good they made a chart to explain it.

This arc sucked. At the end when it's all said and done, GT will be viewed as being better than Super... And that's saiyan something.

I respect your opinion but this arc destroys anything GT had done

Idk about that. The Bebi arc had some of the best fighting/choreography ever. Because of the horrible power scaling most of the fights in the Zamasu arc didn't even make sense.

I might be nitpicking... Maybe. We'll see in the end.

GT did indeed have nice action. I especially loved the fights in it. Tho i cannot compare them yet since Super is still on going. THo up till now i would say overall Super is better, since i could rewatch the u6 saga without getting bored and without skipping things. WHile Future arc i could rewatch also, but id need to skip some episodes or scenes. Plus those slice of life episodes r pure gold hehe. So while SUper isnt leagues above GT, i consider it better, even with all the inconsistent power showings and characters just becoming magically stronger out of the blue. Aka base Black and Trunks being magically god level for no apparent reason. And the u6 roster(minus Hit) being at ssg level just cos they fought the base saiyans. See what pisses me off isnt that they are so strong, i wouldnt mind one bit. It is that no one in universe even makes a freaking statement about it. I mean seriously, how freaking hard is it to make Krillin say, wow Magetta's ki is freaking huge or wow Final Form Frost is a monster etc.

Also, the Bebi arc was possibly the best arc in GT, Super 17 was basically a mini arc and Shadow dragons was simply a chore to watch through. THo it had some nice fight scenes(Nova and Ice shenron vs Goku, Gogeta vs Omega, Goku using the dragon fist technique).

Plus those DB hunting episodes...lord have mercy.

And one more thing, Gt doesnt have ep 27 of Super. That episode made me cry and felt amazing also. Never have I cried at a DB episode. Seeing everyone go on about their lives as the planet was exploding was simply heart breaking, god i am tearing just thinking about it. Plus Super baby Pan lol ^^ And how can u not like the return of Vegetto, or Goku Black and Zamasu drinking tea at their mountain house rofl. WHile the Future arc had some episodes which bored me(ep 58,59 and most of ep 60 i think it was, might get them mixed, but it was around 3 episodes out of the whole arc that i didnt like much).

People say GT has inconsistent power scaling?Bah, the only inconsistent thing is kid Goku surviving that Omega blast(or w/e its called) from Omgea shenron. Rest is easy to tell. We know base Goku is above Buu, from that point on its easy to make a power scale. In anime Super, we got no idea how strong is base Goku,ssj1-3 in relation to Buu saga characters. It is a complete mystery. Hence the power scaling issues.

[dbs fanboy]

Wtf are you doing?! You can't say stuff like that here lol. Zamasu arc was the best thing since sliced cheese lmao. It was soooo good they made a chart to explain it.

This arc sucked. At the end when it's all said and done, GT will be viewed as being better than Super... And that's saiyan something.

I think that you might not have a proper view of the dragon ball super sub forum. People are pretty critical here, when they dislike something they say it and state why, if they like something, they say it and explain why. Even the ones( like myself) who enjoy the show criticize it's flaws.
So far, there's nobody here that things that super is perfect or flawless or anything like that.