The androids, piccolo and the humans

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The androids, piccolo and the humans

Post by pacz360 » Sat Dec 17, 2016 1:49 am

So we know that whoever loses gets there universe destroyed in the upcoming tournament. So I ask this what are some ways for guys like piccolo, 17,18 buu and Kuririn, tien and even Roshi to get strong or least not being dead weight in the tournament?
If I was beerus I would have whis trained the team for the arc.

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Post by Zeru14 » Sat Dec 17, 2016 2:31 am

Hopefully they do train and just don't jump straight in, it was nice that in the early Dragonball tournaments and later the Saiyan, Frieza, Android and Buu Sagas, the characters prepared for the upcoming challenges, either by training with a master or getting a power up through some sort of enhancement. In Dragonball the young warriors had masters like Turtle Hermit, Crane Hermit, Korin and Kami/Mr. Popo. In the Saiyan Saga in a one year timeskip, Goku trained with North Kai, Piccolo trained himself and Gohan and the rest of the Z-Fighters trained with Kami and Mr. Popo on the Lookout. In the Frieza Saga, Goku trained in enhanced gravity and got a Zenkai boost, Vegeta got four Zenkai boost, Piccolo trained with North Kai and fused with Nail, Krillin got his potential unlocked and Gohan got his potential unlocked and a Zenkai boost. In the Android Saga all the warrior trained for three years, the Saiyans then went into Time Chamber and Piccolo fused with Kami and went into the Time Chamber. In the Buu Saga, Gohan trained with the Supreme Kai and Kibito then got his potential unlocked by Old Kai, Kid Trunks and Goten learned the fusion dance to become Gotenks and trained in the Time Chamber and Goku and Vegeta got the potara earrings to become Vegito.

So what options do the Universe 7 team have.
Training with Whis, North Kai, Supreme Kai/Kibito and Old Kai
-Old Kai Unlock Ability and Kaioken these power ups would be of help to Piccolo, Buu, Krillin, Roshi and Tien. Whis and the Kais could show them some new techniques or help improve the ones they already know.
Saiyan God Ritual
-Gohan does the ritual, then like Goku trains to use God Ki, mastering the Super Saiyan Red form(like Goku in the manga).
Time Chamber
-Massive power boost in limited amount of time, they go spend up to three days in their, since 17 and 18 don't age or get tired this is perfect for them.
Transformations from Dragonball Online
-Toriyama brings in the red-eyed form for Piccolo and the Pure Majin state for Fat Buu.
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Re: The androids, piccolo and the humans

Post by Ki Breaker » Sat Dec 17, 2016 2:37 am

The way the preview looks it's implying they did not know of the rule of getting your universe destroyed when you lose..

Berrus still shouldn't be so careless as to bring them untrained..
If he does do that, well you better kiss your universe goodbye berrus..
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Post by precita » Sat Dec 17, 2016 2:55 am

They didn't bring back all these characters just for them to lose quickly. I imagine we'll see them win a few rounds before they inevitably lose a match.

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Sat Dec 17, 2016 6:02 am

pacz360 wrote:So we know that whoever loses gets there universe destroyed in the upcoming tournament. So I ask this what are some ways for guys like piccolo, 17,18 buu and Kuririn, tien and even Roshi to get strong or least not being dead weight in the tournament?
If I was beerus I would have whis trained the team for the arc.
You include Buu and Piccolo when they will be better competitors for Beerus right now than Gohan.

To me, Piccolo is obvious, he should get his own God form like how every fan has said a million times.

Buu I don't think will get much stronger. But he has a crazy amount of magic skills to damage opponents.

The earthlings will get stronger by pure training but their strength will not be their biggest asset for universe 7 but there skill and techniques.

The Androids should be similar to the earthlings but their biggest asset with be their unlimited ki.

Gohan may get serious but this is Gohan so don't expect him to be as powerful as Goku and Vegeta.

Goku and Vegeta are obvious.

Overall, it is not just about power.

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Post by Gig » Sat Dec 17, 2016 6:46 am

Ki Breaker wrote:The way the preview looks it's implying they did not know of the rule of getting your universe destroyed when you lose..
Excuse me, which preview are you referring to? That ad shown here or what else?
Who said about destroying universes?

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Re: The androids, piccolo and the humans

Post by Ki Breaker » Sat Dec 17, 2016 6:51 am

Gig wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:The way the preview looks it's implying they did not know of the rule of getting your universe destroyed when you lose..
Excuse me, which preview are you referring to? That ad shown here or what else?
Who said about destroying universes?
What I referred to is the preview trailer we got today..
Everyone was freaking out when an universe was destroyed, they did not foresee this..
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Post by Hit!! » Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:55 am

precita wrote:They didn't bring back all these characters just for them to lose quickly. I imagine we'll see them win a few rounds before they inevitably lose a match.
Its Dragon Ball Super we're talking about!! The anime known to hype characters up just to waste them in the end.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:15 pm

Just train with Whis. Is it really that hard? Especially given the circumstances of the multiverse tournament, I think Beerus would be more adamant about his team getting strong enough to beat out all the competition. And if he doesn't have that mentality, he's got a death wish.

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Post by kinisking » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:09 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:
pacz360 wrote:So we know that whoever loses gets there universe destroyed in the upcoming tournament. So I ask this what are some ways for guys like piccolo, 17,18 buu and Kuririn, tien and even Roshi to get strong or least not being dead weight in the tournament?
If I was beerus I would have whis trained the team for the arc.
You include Buu and Piccolo when they will be better competitors for Beerus right now than Gohan.

To me, Piccolo is obvious, he should get his own God form like how every fan has said a million times.

Buu I don't think will get much stronger. But he has a crazy amount of magic skills to damage opponents.

The earthlings will get stronger by pure training but their strength will not be their biggest asset for universe 7 but there skill and techniques.

The Androids should be similar to the earthlings but their biggest asset with be their unlimited ki.

Gohan may get serious but this is Gohan so don't expect him to be as powerful as Goku and Vegeta.

Goku and Vegeta are obvious.

Overall, it is not just about power.
The difference between Gohan and Piccolo is too large to be bridged by skill. Just look at how they fared against Tagoma.
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Post by namekiansaiyan » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:17 pm

kinisking wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:
pacz360 wrote:So we know that whoever loses gets there universe destroyed in the upcoming tournament. So I ask this what are some ways for guys like piccolo, 17,18 buu and Kuririn, tien and even Roshi to get strong or least not being dead weight in the tournament?
If I was beerus I would have whis trained the team for the arc.
You include Buu and Piccolo when they will be better competitors for Beerus right now than Gohan.

To me, Piccolo is obvious, he should get his own God form like how every fan has said a million times.

Buu I don't think will get much stronger. But he has a crazy amount of magic skills to damage opponents.

The earthlings will get stronger by pure training but their strength will not be their biggest asset for universe 7 but there skill and techniques.

The Androids should be similar to the earthlings but their biggest asset with be their unlimited ki.

Gohan may get serious but this is Gohan so don't expect him to be as powerful as Goku and Vegeta.

Goku and Vegeta are obvious.

Overall, it is not just about power.
The difference between Gohan and Piccolo is too large to be bridged by skill. Just look at how they fared against Tagoma.
That arc makes no sense in either the movie or series. Literally nothing in it does! I am trying to think what Toriyama would do.

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Post by kinisking » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:18 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:
kinisking wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:
You include Buu and Piccolo when they will be better competitors for Beerus right now than Gohan.

To me, Piccolo is obvious, he should get his own God form like how every fan has said a million times.

Buu I don't think will get much stronger. But he has a crazy amount of magic skills to damage opponents.

The earthlings will get stronger by pure training but their strength will not be their biggest asset for universe 7 but there skill and techniques.

The Androids should be similar to the earthlings but their biggest asset with be their unlimited ki.

Gohan may get serious but this is Gohan so don't expect him to be as powerful as Goku and Vegeta.

Goku and Vegeta are obvious.

Overall, it is not just about power.
The difference between Gohan and Piccolo is too large to be bridged by skill. Just look at how they fared against Tagoma.
That arc makes no sense in either the movie or series. Literally nothing in it does! I am trying to think what Toriyama would do.
Toriyama had a pretty huge role in the movie. They'res no way that he disproved of Gohan helping Piccolo in it.
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Post by namekiansaiyan » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:26 pm

kinisking wrote:
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kinisking wrote: The difference between Gohan and Piccolo is too large to be bridged by skill. Just look at how they fared against Tagoma.
That arc makes no sense in either the movie or series. Literally nothing in it does! I am trying to think what Toriyama would do.
Toriyama had a pretty huge role in the movie. They'res no way that he disproved of Gohan helping Piccolo in it.
I did not explain in full detail so I will now. Froget about the movie as like I said it makes no sense power level wise. What I mean by what Toriyama would do is that he is more likely to use Piccolo as a character more than Gohan. He will find a way that is not the typical fighting way for Piccolo.

I think it would be more believable if Piccolo won not fighting the standard way than Gohan.

We don't even know the format and whether it is 100% fighting or not as it could easily include some sort of challenges for the universe to compete against.

I do think all 10 will have good and bad moments but who has more of which would definitely be subjective.

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Post by ParkerAL » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:34 pm

Destroying an entire universe just because they lost a dumb tournament is... a tad extreme. Not that I'd put it past those two little Zeno-chan shits.
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Post by kinisking » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:45 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:
kinisking wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:
That arc makes no sense in either the movie or series. Literally nothing in it does! I am trying to think what Toriyama would do.
Toriyama had a pretty huge role in the movie. They'res no way that he disproved of Gohan helping Piccolo in it.
I did not explain in full detail so I will now. Froget about the movie as like I said it makes no sense power level wise. What I mean by what Toriyama would do is that he is more likely to use Piccolo as a character more than Gohan. He will find a way that is not the typical fighting way for Piccolo.

I think it would be more believable if Piccolo won not fighting the standard way than Gohan.

We don't even know the format and whether it is 100% fighting or not as it could easily include some sort of challenges for the universe to compete against.

I do think all 10 will have good and bad moments but who has more of which would definitely be subjective.
I can definitely get behind this more than the initial statement.
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Post by MagmonKai » Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:22 pm

We all know most of these characters will get wasted...only Goku and Vegeta will make it far. So only they need to Train with Whis. Whis shouldn't waste his time with the others.

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:30 pm

MagmonKai wrote:We all know most of these characters will get wasted...only Goku and Vegeta will make it far. So only they need to Train with Whis. Whis shouldn't waste his time with the others.
At the moment we have to assume it a team tournament not singles.

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Post by Akyon » Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:49 pm

MagmonKai wrote:We all know most of these characters will get wasted...only Goku and Vegeta will make it far. So only they need to Train with Whis. Whis shouldn't waste his time with the others.
Okay, let's say one universe you're fighting has TEN strong opponents. You only have two, and whilst they're stronger than the ten the other universe has because you focused on only them; your prize fighters are burning through their stamina way quicker having to carry the rest of the team.

If Beerus or Whis are at all aware they need ten fighters in order to compete, they'd better get on that so there's no one who is total dead weight on the team.
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Post by WhatsUpPigeons » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:55 pm

This 10 man team makes me miss future trunks sooooo much!! He could've helped out a lot.

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Post by Gig » Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:28 pm

Akyon wrote: If Beerus or Whis are at all aware they need ten fighters in order to compete, they'd better get on that so there's no one who is total dead weight on the team.
The audience does not know anything about the tournament rules, or when it will happen, yet (apart from spoiler). Maybe even Beerus and Whis do not know any detail yet (as far as ep 71), including the number of fighters...

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