Which method of unlocking your potential would you use to end Goku Black or Majin Vegeta?

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Which method of unlocking your potential would you use to end Goku Black or Majin Vegeta?

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Sun Dec 18, 2016 7:37 pm

1) Also, which potential unlocking method is the most intimidating?

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Re: Which method of unlocking your potential would you use to end Goku Black or Majin Vegeta?

Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:29 pm

The Elder Kai ritual was able to bring out potential that even Gohan didn't know was there. So I'd go with that method.

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Re: Which method of unlocking your potential would you use to end Goku Black or Majin Vegeta?

Post by Ki Breaker » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:55 pm

I did not understand your question :eh:

Are you asking what I personally would like to go through to get strong enough to beat black?
Ya... Even after all these years of training I am about as strong as beginning of db goku..
Yes, I can lift a small size car at least half way, not kidding..
I doubt I have much untapped potential remaining in real life, even if elder kai unlocks it and takes it waaay beyond, it at most would be beginning of dbz goku..
That ain't enough to scratch raditz bro, much less black..

Most intimidating looking is when guru unlocks your potential, that burst of aura you get immediately is very cool looking..
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Re: Which method of unlocking your potential would you use to end Goku Black or Majin Vegeta?

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:18 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:I did not understand your question :eh:

Are you asking what I personally would like to go through to get strong enough to beat black?
Ya... Even after all these years of training I am about as strong as beginning of db goku..
Yes, I can lift a small size car at least half way, not kidding..
I doubt I have much untapped potential remaining in real life, even if elder kai unlocks it and takes it waaay beyond, it at most would be beginning of dbz goku..
That ain't enough to scratch raditz bro, much less black..

Most intimidating looking is when guru unlocks your potential, that burst of aura you get immediately is very cool looking..
Strong as beginning of DB Goku? You trying to tell us you can tank bullets?

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Re: Which method of unlocking your potential would you use to end Goku Black or Majin Vegeta?

Post by Ki Breaker » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:19 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:I did not understand your question :eh:

Are you asking what I personally would like to go through to get strong enough to beat black?
Ya... Even after all these years of training I am about as strong as beginning of db goku..
Yes, I can lift a small size car at least half way, not kidding..
I doubt I have much untapped potential remaining in real life, even if elder kai unlocks it and takes it waaay beyond, it at most would be beginning of dbz goku..
That ain't enough to scratch raditz bro, much less black..

Most intimidating looking is when guru unlocks your potential, that burst of aura you get immediately is very cool looking..
Strong as beginning of DB Goku? You trying to tell us you can tank bullets?
Fuck no, I assumed that's something Saiyan skin did and not how strong you were?
And db beginning is the highest level of physical strength I can even think of holding myself in, does it really matter though
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Re: Which method of unlocking your potential would you use to end Goku Black or Majin Vegeta?

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:24 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:I did not understand your question :eh:

Are you asking what I personally would like to go through to get strong enough to beat black?
Ya... Even after all these years of training I am about as strong as beginning of db goku..
Yes, I can lift a small size car at least half way, not kidding..
I doubt I have much untapped potential remaining in real life, even if elder kai unlocks it and takes it waaay beyond, it at most would be beginning of dbz goku..
That ain't enough to scratch raditz bro, much less black..

Most intimidating looking is when guru unlocks your potential, that burst of aura you get immediately is very cool looking..
Strong as beginning of DB Goku? You trying to tell us you can tank bullets?
Fuck no, I assumed that's something Saiyan skin did and not how strong you were?
And db beginning is the highest level of physical strength I can even think of holding myself in, does it really matter though
Nah, Kuririn and Roshi could take bullets as well and they were human.

Beginning of DB post potential unlock maybe, but even the strongest humans in the world wouldn't come close to Goku without it.

And how do we know how much power we'd get from a potential unlock? Maybe we don't have that much potential.

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Re: Which method of unlocking your potential would you use to end Goku Black or Majin Vegeta?

Post by Ki Breaker » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:32 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote: Strong as beginning of DB Goku? You trying to tell us you can tank bullets?
Fuck no, I assumed that's something Saiyan skin did and not how strong you were?
And db beginning is the highest level of physical strength I can even think of holding myself in, does it really matter though
Nah, Kuririn and Roshi could take bullets as well and they were human.

Beginning of DB post potential unlock maybe, but even the strongest humans in the world wouldn't come close to Goku without it.

And how do we know how much power we'd get from a potential unlock? Maybe we don't have that much potential.
Meh.. could be.. I always assumed it's Saiyan skin that deflect bullets..
We don't, that the point, that's why I was confused by the OP's question..
It's all assumption, because it has no physical value, but we do..

I disagree with you on strongest humans in word not coming close to beginning db goku..
You have him on a very high scale to say that
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Re: Which method of unlocking your potential would you use to end Goku Black or Majin Vegeta?

Post by Sora Saiyan » Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:51 pm

1. Well Rou Kaioshins ritual would be the go to option as it unlocks your true potential and puts it way beyond its limits. However, even with that unlock I don't think we'd ever be able to match even beginning of DB Goku.

Just in the strength department a good comparison would be the heaviest unequipped squat by a man which is 465KG, and the heaviest unequipped deadlift is 460KG, but both of these are nothing compared to Goku climbing under a 1ton car and lifting it overhead (from a very unfavourable position) and then throwing it. So even having our power brought out way beyond limits I'd imagine we'd need to be able to match all the current WR that have anything to do with strength and then have a 10x increase on top of that. Though I'd say we'd need a much bigger increase to be able to crush a stone boulder like Goku did just before finding Turtle.

So yeah, BoDB Goku is probably way to much for a human even way beyond limits, so Black and Majin Vegeta will be forver uneachable.

2. Most intimidating would be Gurus because of that aura.

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Re: Which method of unlocking your potential would you use to end Goku Black or Majin Vegeta?

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:40 pm

Sora Saiyan wrote:1. Well Rou Kaioshins ritual would be the go to option as it unlocks your true potential and puts it way beyond its limits. However, even with that unlock I don't think we'd ever be able to match even beginning of DB Goku.

Just in the strength department a good comparison would be the heaviest unequipped squat by a man which is 465KG, and the heaviest unequipped deadlift is 460KG, but both of these are nothing compared to Goku climbing under a 1ton car and lifting it overhead (from a very unfavourable position) and then throwing it. So even having our power brought out way beyond limits I'd imagine we'd need to be able to match all the current WR that have anything to do with strength and then have a 10x increase on top of that. Though I'd say we'd need a much bigger increase to be able to crush a stone boulder like Goku did just before finding Turtle.

So yeah, BoDB Goku is probably way to much for a human even way beyond limits, so Black and Majin Vegeta will be forver uneachable.

2. Most intimidating would be Gurus because of that aura.
Goku has lifted and pushed boulders much heavier than that too, tens of tons at least, likely hundreds.

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Re: Which method of unlocking your potential would you use to end Goku Black or Majin Vegeta?

Post by kinisking » Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:23 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote: Fuck no, I assumed that's something Saiyan skin did and not how strong you were?
And db beginning is the highest level of physical strength I can even think of holding myself in, does it really matter though
Nah, Kuririn and Roshi could take bullets as well and they were human.

Beginning of DB post potential unlock maybe, but even the strongest humans in the world wouldn't come close to Goku without it.

And how do we know how much power we'd get from a potential unlock? Maybe we don't have that much potential.
Meh.. could be.. I always assumed it's Saiyan skin that deflect bullets..
We don't, that the point, that's why I was confused by the OP's question..
It's all assumption, because it has no physical value, but we do..

I disagree with you on strongest humans in word not coming close to beginning db goku..
You have him on a very high scale to say that
My memory is fuzzy but didn't beginning of Db goku pick up bulmas car?
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Re: Which method of unlocking your potential would you use to end Goku Black or Majin Vegeta?

Post by Ki Breaker » Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:41 pm

kinisking wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote: Nah, Kuririn and Roshi could take bullets as well and they were human.

Beginning of DB post potential unlock maybe, but even the strongest humans in the world wouldn't come close to Goku without it.

And how do we know how much power we'd get from a potential unlock? Maybe we don't have that much potential.
Meh.. could be.. I always assumed it's Saiyan skin that deflect bullets..
We don't, that the point, that's why I was confused by the OP's question..
It's all assumption, because it has no physical value, but we do..

I disagree with you on strongest humans in word not coming close to beginning db goku..
You have him on a very high scale to say that
My memory is fuzzy but didn't beginning of Db goku pick up bulmas car?
Ya, after discussing db Goku's strength, I went and rewached it, well I had actually misjudged his strength on many levels, My memory was somewhat fuzzy too, Still, I believe humans can actually reach that level minus the bullet tanking thing, that's just absurd..

He picked up a small car, it was tiny car for tiny bulma, any seasoned lifter can do it with some problems
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Re: Which method of unlocking your potential would you use to end Goku Black or Majin Vegeta?

Post by Sora Saiyan » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:02 am

Ki Breaker wrote:
kinisking wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote: Meh.. could be.. I always assumed it's Saiyan skin that deflect bullets..
We don't, that the point, that's why I was confused by the OP's question..
It's all assumption, because it has no physical value, but we do..

I disagree with you on strongest humans in word not coming close to beginning db goku..
You have him on a very high scale to say that
My memory is fuzzy but didn't beginning of Db goku pick up bulmas car?
Ya, after discussing db Goku's strength, I went and rewached it, well I had actually misjudged his strength on many levels, My memory was somewhat fuzzy too, Still, I believe humans can actually reach that level minus the bullet tanking thing, that's just absurd..

He picked up a small car, it was tiny car for tiny bulma, any seasoned lifter can do it with some problems
That car was actually a Renault 5 Turbo which is just shy of 1 ton, but including Bulma it would be just over a ton. Really it's quite interesting for Toriyama to use a real life car, but it gives a good scale of Gokus strength. :) That small boulder he crushes later is more impressive though.

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Re: Which method of unlocking your potential would you use to end Goku Black or Majin Vegeta?

Post by Ki Breaker » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:11 am

Sora Saiyan wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:
kinisking wrote: My memory is fuzzy but didn't beginning of Db goku pick up bulmas car?
Ya, after discussing db Goku's strength, I went and rewached it, well I had actually misjudged his strength on many levels, My memory was somewhat fuzzy too, Still, I believe humans can actually reach that level minus the bullet tanking thing, that's just absurd..

He picked up a small car, it was tiny car for tiny bulma, any seasoned lifter can do it with some problems
That car was actually a Renault 5 Turbo which is just shy of 1 ton, but including Bulma it would be just over a ton. Really it's quite interesting for Toriyama to use a real life car, but it gives a good scale of Gokus strength. :) That small boulder he crushes later is more impressive though.
For real?!
Damn, I don't know much about cars so I didn't catch that..
Well, I stand corrected..
My interpretation of Goku's strength was wrong..
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