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Why are many of you negative towards Team Universe 7's fighters not named Goku and Vegeta?

Post by namekiansaiyan » Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:53 am

This is a team tournament so why are many of you saying the other 8 have no chance. Piccolo has already shown one way of competing so what is the problem? They have to be good or Universe 7 will be getting destroyed as Goku and Vegeta can't do it by themselves.
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Re: Why are many of you negative towards Team Universe's fighters not named Goku and Vegeta?

Post by Ki Breaker » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:26 am

Maybe it's due to the fact they are not shown training at all..
Gotenks got spanked by base vegeta and he is the top definition when gohan is (was?) Out if his game..
And those base goku and Vegeta transformed to fight nearly every opponent.. you get the picture..

If they are shown training or even mentioned without showing that would give people some hope
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Re: Why are many of you negative towards Team Universe's fighters not named Goku and Vegeta?

Post by DasMuse » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:34 am

We don't even know what the format of tournament will be yet... Who's to say that every fighter on other teams are at Goku/Vegetas level? I would assume they'll have some weaker fighters too.

And there are still quite a few episodes left before it even starts, whos to say they won't train? I don't even care if they do it on screen, if they just said they did would be good enough... We never seen how Goku/Vegeta got to SSB level either, and that is by far more annoying that not seeing lesser characters train for a tourney.
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Re: Why are many of you negative towards Team Universe's fighters not named Goku and Vegeta?

Post by MisteryOne » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:34 am

Because they are probably not going to train at all. Also, we don't know if we will have team battles. If the tournament uses the same format that in the Champa arc, then it will be the Goku and Vegeta show again.
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Re: Why are many of you negative towards Team Universe's fighters not named Goku and Vegeta?

Post by Lujin_16 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:42 am

MisteryOne wrote:Because they are probably not going to train at all. Also, we don't know if we will have team battles. If the tournament uses the same format that in the Champa arc, then it will be the Goku and Vegeta show again.
Team battles are confirmed

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:46 am

Lujin_16 wrote:
MisteryOne wrote:Because they are probably not going to train at all. Also, we don't know if we will have team battles. If the tournament uses the same format that in the Champa arc, then it will be the Goku and Vegeta show again.
Team battles are confirmed
It won't be 1 vs 1 all the way with winner staying on as it would take forever. No matter whether they are singles or doubles or a mix of both the whole team will have to contribute as Goku and Vegeta will not be able to do it on their own.

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Re: Why are many of you negative towards Team Universe's fighters not named Goku and Vegeta?

Post by HeroR » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:49 am

Lujin_16 wrote:
MisteryOne wrote:Because they are probably not going to train at all. Also, we don't know if we will have team battles. If the tournament uses the same format that in the Champa arc, then it will be the Goku and Vegeta show again.
Team battles are confirmed
All it said was that the universes would have teams of ten. It's just like how the Champa Saga was a 'team' battle between U6 and U7, yet all the matches were still 1v1.
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Re: Why are many of you negative towards Team Universe's fighters not named Goku and Vegeta?

Post by MisteryOne » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:50 am

Lujin_16 wrote:
MisteryOne wrote:Because they are probably not going to train at all. Also, we don't know if we will have team battles. If the tournament uses the same format that in the Champa arc, then it will be the Goku and Vegeta show again.
Team battles are confirmed
When have they been officialy confirmed?
namekiansaiyan wrote:
Lujin_16 wrote:
MisteryOne wrote:Because they are probably not going to train at all. Also, we don't know if we will have team battles. If the tournament uses the same format that in the Champa arc, then it will be the Goku and Vegeta show again.
Team battles are confirmed
It won't be 1 vs 1 all the way with winner staying on as it would take forever. No matter whether they are singles or doubles or a mix of both the whole team will have to contribute as Goku and Vegeta will not be able to do it on their own.
It can perfectly be a 1 vs 1 if they only show the fights of Universe 7, similar of how original DB only showed the important matches. They could even say «Goku has defeayed X guys offscreen» and that's it. People are getting hyped without confirmation of team battles. If you ask me, I think everyone will get one win if anything, and then it will be Goku and Vegeta again.
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Post by namekiansaiyan » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:57 am

MisteryOne wrote:
Lujin_16 wrote:
MisteryOne wrote:Because they are probably not going to train at all. Also, we don't know if we will have team battles. If the tournament uses the same format that in the Champa arc, then it will be the Goku and Vegeta show again.
Team battles are confirmed
When have they been officialy confirmed?
namekiansaiyan wrote:
Lujin_16 wrote:
Team battles are confirmed
It won't be 1 vs 1 all the way with winner staying on as it would take forever. No matter whether they are singles or doubles or a mix of both the whole team will have to contribute as Goku and Vegeta will not be able to do it on their own.
It can perfectly be a 1 vs 1 if they only show the fights of Universe 7, similar of how original DB only showed the important matches. They could even say «Goku has defeayed X guys offscreen» and that's it. People are getting hyped without confirmation of team battles. If you ask me, I think everyone will get one win if anything, and then it will be Goku and Vegeta again.
All I am saying is that it will not be 10 vs 10 each round with the winner staying on as that could mean 19 matches per round for team universe 7. This is simple logic as we would be here to about episode 250 if we do what you say.

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Re: Why are many of you negative towards Team Universe's fighters not named Goku and Vegeta?

Post by MisteryOne » Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:00 am

namekiansaiyan wrote:
MisteryOne wrote:
Lujin_16 wrote:
Team battles are confirmed
When have they been officialy confirmed?
namekiansaiyan wrote:
It won't be 1 vs 1 all the way with winner staying on as it would take forever. No matter whether they are singles or doubles or a mix of both the whole team will have to contribute as Goku and Vegeta will not be able to do it on their own.
It can perfectly be a 1 vs 1 if they only show the fights of Universe 7, similar of how original DB only showed the important matches. They could even say «Goku has defeayed X guys offscreen» and that's it. People are getting hyped without confirmation of team battles. If you ask me, I think everyone will get one win if anything, and then it will be Goku and Vegeta again.
All I am saying is that it will not be 10 vs 10 each round with the winner staying on as that could mean 19 matches per round for team universe 7. This is simple logic as we would be here to about episode 250 if we do what you say.
Not necesary. As I said, they could have just show the important matches like in the original DB and that's it. Even if it isn't like in the Champa arc, it can be the format of the typical Budokai. There is nothing suggesting team battles, and in both cases they can only show us the important marches. In any case, Goku and Vegeta are going to be the main characters since they are way stronger than anyone else.

I would love it if it was either team battles or something that can't allow Goku and Vegeta to be the main focus, but I prefer to be realistic.
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Re: Why are many of you negative towards Team Universe's fighters not named Goku and Vegeta?

Post by namekiansaiyan » Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:31 am

MisteryOne wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:
MisteryOne wrote: When have they been officialy confirmed?


It can perfectly be a 1 vs 1 if they only show the fights of Universe 7, similar of how original DB only showed the important matches. They could even say «Goku has defeayed X guys offscreen» and that's it. People are getting hyped without confirmation of team battles. If you ask me, I think everyone will get one win if anything, and then it will be Goku and Vegeta again.
All I am saying is that it will not be 10 vs 10 each round with the winner staying on as that could mean 19 matches per round for team universe 7. This is simple logic as we would be here to about episode 250 if we do what you say.
Not necesary. As I said, they could have just show the important matches like in the original DB and that's it. Even if it isn't like in the Champa arc, it can be the format of the typical Budokai. There is nothing suggesting team battles, and in both cases they can only show us the important marches. In any case, Goku and Vegeta are going to be the main characters since they are way stronger than anyone else.

I would love it if it was either team battles or something that can't allow Goku and Vegeta to be the main focus, but I prefer to be realistic.
We can assume they will show all team Universe 7 fights.

I think Goku and Vegeta will not be way stronger and even if they are it will not make a difference as they will need a lot of help.

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Re: Why are many of you negative towards Team Universe 7's ighters not named Goku and Vegeta?

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:41 am

What are you talking about? I'm very negative towards Vegeta as well.

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Re: Why are many of you negative towards Team Universe 7's ighters not named Goku and Vegeta?

Post by namekiansaiyan » Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:47 am

TheUltimateNinja wrote:What are you talking about? I'm very negative towards Vegeta as well.
I said many, not all. I am positive about all 10 fighters.
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Re: Why are many of you negative towards Team Universe 7's ighters not named Goku and Vegeta?

Post by omaro34 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:48 am

Because the show always caters to Saiyans and if you're not Goku or Vegeta generally speaking you're just background decoration.
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Re: Why are many of you negative towards Team Universe 7's ighters not named Goku and Vegeta?

Post by Doctor. » Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:56 am

They're all useless. Vegeta always jobs to the big bad. Goku doesn't win at all in Super.

I'm negative towards everyone, go universe 6.

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:58 am

omaro34 wrote:Because the show always caters to Saiyans and if you're not Goku or Vegeta generally speaking you're just background decoration.
If Universe 7 win, then surely throughout the tournament they will easily win at least 1-2 matches each so they all contribute even a little bit.

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Post by omaro34 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:04 pm

Doctor. wrote:They're all useless. Vegeta always jobs to the big bad. Goku doesn't win at all in Super.

I'm negative towards everyone, go universe 6.
Well of course they're useless. Its just fan service. Maybe a few of them (likely 17 otherwise why bring him back?) would have a cool moment here or there, but at the end they will be watching from the sidelines as usual.
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Post by omaro34 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:05 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:
omaro34 wrote:Because the show always caters to Saiyans and if you're not Goku or Vegeta generally speaking you're just background decoration.
If Universe 7 win, then surely throughout the tournament they will easily win at least 1-2 matches each so they all contribute even a little bit.
If they contribute as much as you say then I'll be happy. Anything is better than background fodder.
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Re: Why are many of you negative towards Team Universe 7's ighters not named Goku and Vegeta?

Post by Yedis » Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:30 pm

I think it's more resentment towards not including Trunks and Goten.

We don't know the tournament format yet to determine the usefulness of each character, so saying others will be useless isn't based on anything other than the power gaps between them and Goku and Vegeta. Additionally, I do not think other universes will consist of 10 fighters as strong as Goku and Vegeta.

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Post by Dbzfan94 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:51 pm

Yedis wrote:I think it's more resentment towards not including Trunks and Goten.

We don't know the tournament format yet to determine the usefulness of each character, so saying others will be useless isn't based on anything other than the power gaps between them and Goku and Vegeta. Additionally, I do not think other universes will consist of 10 fighters as strong as Goku and Vegeta.
I've given up on Goten doing anything at all. I really want him to, but it's becoming less and less likely.

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