Why i like the Black Goku's Rose Transformation more than the Super Saiyan form...

[Lujin_16]

Black roses are symbols for many of the darker aspects of the universe, including death, mourning, evil, witchcraft and revenge.

This transformation has his meaning not like the super saiyan form and that makes it so special to me not only this it fits really well on Black Goku +
outfit

[Merged Zamasu]

Super Sayan Rosè makes Black a far more unique villain. It's a transformation available only to him, as it uses Zamasu's own Ki. Goku and Vegeta will NEVER be able to obtain this form, as they do not possess Zamasu's original Ki. The colour "Rose" is also a symbol of beauty, grace, admiration and gratitude, and it perfectly fits Black's pretentious, egocentric and extremely arrogant personality.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Black roses are symbols for many of the darker aspects of the universe, including death, mourning, evil, witchcraft and revenge.

This transformation has his meaning not like the super saiyan form and that makes it so special to me not only this it fits really well on Black Goku +
outfit

Super Saiyan wasn't some random color choice either. The Super Saiyan form itself (including the extended forms, SS2, SS3) is a metaphor for a fire. It even visually mimics a candle. Fire is a pretty strong symbol in itself, representing life, power, courage, death, loss, hope, etc. depending on the culture.

SSR is not unique in its symbolism. In fact, Rose is probably the most vague, unimpactful of all the forms in a symbolic sense, arguably other than SSG.

[Abra kadabra]

It's just pink hair

[Jinzoningen MULE]

It's just pink hair

Not really. The transformations of Dragon Ball have always had their asthetics and personality traits synchronized. Also, Toriyama is notorious for integrating all kinds of symbolism and references into his work.

[Merged Zamasu]

It's just pink hair

That's a very superficial mentality. The colour of the hair, Rose, is the representation of Black's own soul. Glorious, beautiful, like every God is, but also decadent, deadly and lethal, like Black himself, powerful beyond even his own comprehension, yet easily prey of madness. Rose is the colour worthy of a God the likes of Zamasu: elegant, beautiful and graceful, but with a more sinister nature hidden at its core.

[TheMikado]

It's just pink hair

That's a very superficial mentality. The colour of the hair, Rose, is the representation of Black's own soul. Glorious, beautiful, like every God is, but also decadent, deadly and lethal, like Black himself, powerful beyond even his own comprehension, yet easily prey of madness. Rose is the colour worthy of a God the likes of Zamasu: elegant, beautiful and graceful, but with a more sinister nature hidden at its core.

It really is just pink hair. If Merged Zamasu had Pink hair I might agree with you but as it stands on Black, its just pink hair. The aura on the other hand was well done. Exposition wise its never explained WHAT it is. Is it SSJ with Zamasu's ki, God ki, SSB equivalent? Its a form that has no context or meaning behind it.

SSJ for example was a legendary form, it's visual appearance had routes in the Journey to the West mythos and really became iconic. Further, the blond color was a fantastic contrast to the traditionally dark haired saiyans. Rose isn't bad, it just doesn't know what it is or wants to be, and doesn't even try to explain it to the audience either. A satisfying answer would be: "this is what happens when you use the ki of a Kaioshin", or "I have the ability to select my own ki color in this form".
We just don't get a good enough reason for why despite being in Goku's body Zamasu (Black) has this form. The audience is left to assume its because Zamasu is in Goku's body but thats not a satisfying answer at all, especially when they didnt bother to even state as much.

[dblack]

I would've liked to see Black go regular SSJ then go into a huge dialogue about how pathetic a god having to use the form of a ningen is. Then he powers up and goes SSR. "Ahh, a form much more befitting a god."

[TheMikado]

I would've liked to see Black go regular SSJ then go into a huge dialogue about how pathetic a god having to use the form of a ningen is. Then he powers up and goes SSR. "Ahh, a form much more befitting a god."

This I like.

[SaiyanGod117]

It was good looking visually, other than that there's nothing really going for it. Just like most of other SS forms (not all) its used for the convenience to put a character on even- level playing field. I did read somewhere there was symbolism that was post to go with it, but I forgot what it was. I think it was despair or something like that.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I would've liked to see Black go regular SSJ then go into a huge dialogue about how pathetic a god having to use the form of a ningen is. Then he powers up and goes SSR. "Ahh, a form much more befitting a god."

This I like.

I think it would've been interesting if the anime had taken a similar route to Toyotaro, having Black start of with Super Saiyan. Seeing Goku Black's first awakening of SSR would have been glorious, as well have created far more tension with much less work.

[Yomi]

It's Rosé
Pink French Wine.
Alcohol = Gods.
[spoiler][/spoiler]
The end.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Alcohol = Gods.

You lost me here. I think that's the point, but just thought I'd point it out.

[Yomi]

Alcohol = Gods.

You lost me here. I think that's the point, but just thought I'd point it out.

Beerus = Beer
Champa = Champagne
Vados = Calvados
Whis = Whiskey

It's just a naming convention. Saiyans are vegetables.

It's like saying "Raditz name is deeper than you think,
it means he's tough and has deep roots"

[ChronoTwigger]

Alcohol = Gods.

You lost me here. I think that's the point, but just thought I'd point it out.

Name of gods and angels are based on alcoholics in Super. So, Toriyama search around, read "Rosè wine", and use it.

That rose colour is just the chromatic inverse of the cyan Blue transformation.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Beerus = Beer
Champa = Champagne
Vados = Calvados
Whis = Whiskey

Only the naming scheme for Angels and Gods of Destruction. Nothing to so with Goku Black or any Super Saiyan transformation.

[Yomi]

Beerus = Beer
Champa = Champagne
Vados = Calvados
Whis = Whiskey

Only the naming scheme for Angels and Gods of Destruction. Nothing to so with Goku Black or any Super Saiyan transformation.

If it was Rose, it would be Rose, but instead it's Rosé.
With that accent the word means French Wine colored by Grape Skins, and it just so happens that the wine is pink.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

With that accent the word means French Wine colored by Grape Skins, and it just so happens that the wine is pink.

I get that, but the naming scheme is an analogy for eloquence, as is apparent from Black's monolouges. The spirit of the pun isn't on the alcoholic beverage itself, like with those you listed

[Yomi]

I get that, but the naming scheme is an analogy for eloquence, as is apparent from Black's monolouges. The spirit of the pun isn't on the alcoholic beverage itself, like with those you listed

No interpretation really clashes with his character.

He's Divine,
He's a Death Bringer
and he's High-Class.

[ChronoTwigger]

Beerus = Beer
Champa = Champagne
Vados = Calvados
Whis = Whiskey

Only the naming scheme for Angels and Gods of Destruction. Nothing to so with Goku Black or any Super Saiyan transformation.

Correct, but was a recurring naming scheme for the serie. Technically speaking, it's not even a pure Super Sayan transformation, but something new made with unorthodox methods. Zamasu had fun of mimicking those ones, and also state to name the thing after the way they did. So, if they call "Blue", it call it own "Rose" (Rosè for the alcohol pun again). "Black" was a Bulma name, he call himself Goku or Zamasu. There wasn't any reason to come with another vegetable name to distinct him.