Why butcher Zamasu's character...

[Merged Zamasu]

There was no reason to turn Merged Zamasu, a shining and magnifcient, immortal and most powerful God, into a green/purple clone of Broly. Like, you could have shown he had become a lunatic without completely ruining his appearance and the elegance and sheer might that made him unique. Just look at him:

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He didn't deserve the treatement he received in Episode 66. Any good reason they chose to throw out of the window his cool and magestic appearance to turn him into yet another Broly? Perhaps, one day, this character will come back, because his character was rushed as hell. Merged Zamasu appeared for only 3 episodes. I guess Goku, Trunks and Vegeta OBVIOUSLY needed more spotlight than a character who already didn't have a very developed backstory and had endless potential. The ending of Future Trunks' Arc would have been a lot more epic and cooler if Merged Zamasu had not changed after Episode 65.

[Dbzfan94]

Bro, I think you might just be a tad too obsessed with Zamasu.

[Kanassa]

Symbolism. As the fight wears on the heroes crack the facade of Zamasu's rants of justice and paradise, chipping away at his divine judgement, revealing him for what he truly is by the end of the arc. As Gowasu states, it's his inner conflict being brought front and centre.

[FoolsGil]

Zamasu didn't become a Broly mofo because he was losing his mind. He merged with Black who wasn't immortal. He was suffering mortal damage in a half mortal, half immortal body, it's unfortunate, but that's why he ended up looking so gross.

[emperior]

Bro, I think you might just be a tad too obsessed with Zamasu.

It's also not healthy when this guy brings Zamasu out of nowhere in every single discussion he takes part in. It's getting quite silly

[The gr]

Bro, I think you might just be a tad too obsessed with Zamasu.

It's also not healthy when this guy brings Zamasu out of nowhere in every single discussion he takes part in. It's getting quite silly

I don't know if this guy is joking or he is really obsessed with zamasu

[VegettoEX]

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[Merged Zamasu]

Symbolism. As the fight wears on the heroes crack the facade of Zamasu's rants of justice and paradise, chipping away at his divine judgement, revealing him for what he truly is by the end of the arc. As Gowasu states, it's his inner conflict being brought front and centre.

Which was not necessary, since everyone knew by Episode 65 what Zamasu's real, sinister nature was, there was no need to completely ruin a badass character just so we could have some more irrelevant symbolism (Which we, of course, already knew about. Symbolism to make things a little deeper shouldn't come at a great cost, the loss of a great concept just to make yet another bulky, angry bad guy). Merged Zamasu was meant to be the ultimate God, whose Light would judge all mortals. Merged Zamasu was supposed to be different from all other villains, as he was divine, angelic, radiating with shining Light. There was no reason to suddenly change that concept and make him go full raging-mode, as if he was a 5-years-old who just threw a tantrum. Black is part of Merged Zamasu, and Black never threw a tantrum whenever he lost a fight. When he got owned by Vegeta, he tried to find out his secret and make up a new strategy to overcome his foe. When Merged Zamasu got owned by Goku, he became batshit crazy for no reason at all. To think a strategist like Black is part of that guy who became, towards the end, nothing more but a child.

And yes, i am obsessed with Zamasu. No character will ever achieve the uniqueness and might of Zamasu. And he appeared for about 20 Episodes, which is not a lot. Keep your judgement for yourselves, i don't need it. It's not like i beg you to reply to my Zamasu's posts.

[Lord Frieza]

Ok I love Fused Zamasu this it stretching it a bit.

Him becoming a monster is meant to be ironic, an arrogant being who strove so hard for perfection has his plan back fire because he did not truly understand how the godly power he was using worked. His monstrous form represents his madness, hypocrisy and his obsession with making the universe a place black and white justice. Also his insanity is only natural, while this is speculation on my part, the fusion of two of the same being dose not create a new entity with characteristics of both like Vegito but a being with an exaggerated/magnified version of that beings personality. Fused Zamasu's arrogance and self entitlement are turned up to 11 and the second things start going wrong he simply cannot handle it and he is driven further and further into madness.

Also I love his Deformed State, I find it very cool in its own right especially with its contrast to his perfect fused self. I'm also a sucker for giant deformed arms.

[PsionicWarrior]

And yes, i am obsessed with Zamasu.

No offense but yet you seem to completely misunderstand his narrative which has been strengthened even further near the end of the arc by this symbolism reflecting on his appearance.

[GodKaio-Ken]

Personally I hated Future Zamasu and Merged Zamasu. Black would have been better off as the only Zamasu and we would have had a much better arc.

[SaiyanZ]

While I think Zamasu is a horrible character, I agree that a half of him turning into purple goo is terrible. This is usually an indicator for bad villains to me, so many times have I seen someone get power and then degenerate into some goo like liquid (Garon from FE Fates, Ravus from FFXV, the villain in the Pyramid of Light YuGiOh movie, etc.). I don't think this will happen in the manga though, though I have a feeling that it will retain the weakness of an immortal body fusing with a mortal one (which is all kinds of stupid to me considering that Zamasu was originally mortal and was able to become immortal).

[GodKaio-Ken]

While I think Zamasu is a horrible character, I agree that a half of him turning into purple goo is terrible. This is usually an indicator for bad villains to me, so many times have I seen someone get power and then degenerate into some goo like liquid (Garon from FE Fates, Ravus from FFXV, the villain in the Pyramid of Light YuGiOh movie, etc.). I don't think this will happen in the manga though, though I have a feeling that it will retain the weakness of an immortal body fusing with a mortal one (which is all kinds of stupid to me considering that Zamasu was originally mortal and was able to become immortal).

The Super Dragon Balls gave that body immortality. The Potara does not have the power to grant immortality. If you mix two things together they dont have the properties of one or the other but both.

It wouldnt make sense for Merged Zamasu to be fully immortal.

[dblack]

Bro, I think you might just be a tad too obsessed with Zamasu.

It's also not healthy when this guy brings Zamasu out of nowhere in every single discussion he takes part in. It's getting quite silly

I enjoy his Zamasu posts personally. It's not like he's spamming, his posts are usually long and pretty well thought out. Dude just loves Merged Zamasu, cool with me haha.

I was also a little disappointed in deformed-goo-Zamasu. It took away some of his individuality because of how common a monster like that is. I always thought the look and kind of feminine personalities of Black/Zamasu were really good designs for god-villains.

[SaiyanZ]

The Super Dragon Balls gave that body immortality. The Potara does not have the power to grant immortality. If you mix two things together they dont have the properties of one or the other but both.

It wouldnt make sense for Merged Zamasu to be fully immortal.

I know that he got it because of the Super DBs, but that isn't my complaint. If a mortal can become an immortal, then it doesn't make sense that a fused between one who is and one who is not can't accommodate that, especially if the immortal one was mortal before. Also, you are right, its like you said: they have the properties of both. You can't be "half" immortal, you're either immortal or you're not, which makes it all the more stupid.

[Lord Frieza]

As I've said in another post I don't think his immortal + mortal body fusion is the problem. Its likely that the fusion would have been just fine under normal circumstances but there are just so many problems and potential problems with the fusion that something went horribly wrong.

[GodKaio-Ken]

The Super Dragon Balls gave that body immortality. The Potara does not have the power to grant immortality. If you mix two things together they dont have the properties of one or the other but both.

It wouldnt make sense for Merged Zamasu to be fully immortal.

I know that he got it because of the Super DBs, but that isn't my complaint. If a mortal can become an immortal, then it doesn't make sense that a fused between one who is and one who is not can't accommodate that, especially if the immortal one was mortal before. Also, you are right, its like you said: they have the properties of both. You can't be "half" immortal, you're either immortal or you're not, which makes it all the more stupid.

No what i said was he would have the properties of both. You literally took what i said and gave it the opposite meaning. I meant the properties of a mortal and immortal body.


Also i think its stupid for anyone to say either idea is stupid. Its not scientific. Noone knows what would actually happen if an immortal and mortal fused. Its not something that has any real world equivalent. It may irk our logic but so do a lot of things we know to be true like quantum physics.

I dont think you are "wrong". What i think is as i said...there is no scientific way to say what should happen and thus anything (within SOME reason) makes sense as much as anything else.

[SaiyanZ]

The Super Dragon Balls gave that body immortality. The Potara does not have the power to grant immortality. If you mix two things together they dont have the properties of one or the other but both.

It wouldnt make sense for Merged Zamasu to be fully immortal.

I know that he got it because of the Super DBs, but that isn't my complaint. If a mortal can become an immortal, then it doesn't make sense that a fused between one who is and one who is not can't accommodate that, especially if the immortal one was mortal before. Also, you are right, its like you said: they have the properties of both. You can't be "half" immortal, you're either immortal or you're not, which makes it all the more stupid.

No what i said was he would have the properties of both. You literally took what i said and gave it the opposite meaning. I meant the properties of a mortal and immortal body.


Also i think its stupid for anyone to say either idea is stupid. Its not scientific. Noone knows what would actually happen if an immortal and mortal fused. Its not something that has any real world equivalent. It may irk our logic but so do a lot of things we know to be true like quantum physics.

I dont think you are "wrong". What i think is as i said...there is no scientific way to say what should happen and thus anything (within SOME reason) makes sense as much as anything else.

True, immortality in itself isn't something that exists in reality, at least in a scientific and biological sense, but even without using elaborate scientific reasoning and just using plain common sense, what else can you be but mortal or immortal? Pseudo-immortality in itself I think is just dumb. Merged Zamasu isn't that, but if he has the properties of both, then he should've been immortal at one point too, yet he wasn't.

[dblack]

True, immortality in itself isn't something that exists in reality, at least in a scientific and biological sense, but even without using elaborate scientific reasoning and just using plain common sense, what else can you be but mortal or immortal? Pseudo-immortality in itself I think is just dumb. Merged Zamasu isn't that, but if he has the properties of both, then he should've been immortal at one point too, yet he wasn't.

He was immortal at one point. When Trunks slices him in half destroying his body every other villain would've died at that point. Due to his immortality he survived and fused with the universe.

[SaiyanZ]

True, immortality in itself isn't something that exists in reality, at least in a scientific and biological sense, but even without using elaborate scientific reasoning and just using plain common sense, what else can you be but mortal or immortal? Pseudo-immortality in itself I think is just dumb. Merged Zamasu isn't that, but if he has the properties of both, then he should've been immortal at one point too, yet he wasn't.

He was immortal at one point. When Trunks slices him in half destroying his body every other villain would've died at that point. Due to his immortality he survived and fused with the universe.

I highly doubt that will happen in the manga, and he wasn't immortal at that point because of half of his body being already melted into purple goo at that point.