What's the difference between Zen'o and Freeza?

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What's the difference between Zen'o and Freeza?

Post by Merged Zamasu » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:35 pm

- Both are dictators that rule their subjects through fear;
- Both mercilessly destroy their subjects if they rebel;
- Both do not care about their people, only about their goals;
- Both destroy planets for no apparent reason;
- Both are arrogant and pretentious fools.

Zeno is basically no better than Frieza. He is a dictator that rules through fear and terror and uses propaganda to eliminate all dissidents. He also bends the laws of the Universe to his will (Zeno travelled through timelines, that's a sin yet nobody dares point a finger, because he is the Omni-king). The only difference i can think of is that Frieza understands the crimes he has committed, Zeno doesn't. But if you look at the kind of leaders Zeno and Frieza are, they are the same kind. The kind that needs to go away, for the utopian world to come.

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Re: What's the difference between Zeno and Frieza?

Post by Doctor. » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:37 pm

How is the Omni-king arrogant and pretentious? I doubt he even knows what those words mean.

The difference is that Freeza is aware that what he's doing is evil and doesn't care, he even enjoys it. The Omni-king doesn't seem to have a concept of morality.

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Re: What's the difference between Zeno and Frieza?

Post by Ki Breaker » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:44 pm

Differences are many, similarities include both have Zamasu as a bitch, one fucked his existence and one is much more interesting than Zamasu ever was
Doctor. wrote:How is the Omni-king arrogant and pretentious? I doubt he even knows what those words mean.

The difference is that Freeza is aware that what he's doing is evil and doesn't care, he even enjoys it. The Omni-king doesn't seem to have a concept of morality.
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Re: What's the difference between Zeno and Frieza?

Post by Merged Zamasu » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:14 pm

Doctor. wrote:How is the Omni-king arrogant and pretentious? I doubt he even knows what those words mean.

The difference is that Freeza is aware that what he's doing is evil and doesn't care, he even enjoys it. The Omni-king doesn't seem to have a concept of morality.
Which i mentioned at the end of my bold statement.

Point still stands. Frieza is a dictator who rules through fear and completely ignores the laws. Zeno is a dictator who rules through fear and completely ignores the laws.

There is no freedom of speech within Zeno's dictatorship. People like Zamasu, who question the stability of the Universe Zeno built, are either charged for treason and executed or persuased to believe otherwise.

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Re: What's the difference between Zeno and Frieza?

Post by dbs fanboy » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:18 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:Differences are many, similarities include both have Zamasu as a bitch, one fucked his existence and one is much more interesting than Zamasu ever was
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Re: What's the difference between Zeno and Frieza?

Post by Doctor. » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:24 pm

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Doctor. wrote:How is the Omni-king arrogant and pretentious? I doubt he even knows what those words mean.

The difference is that Freeza is aware that what he's doing is evil and doesn't care, he even enjoys it. The Omni-king doesn't seem to have a concept of morality.
Which i mentioned at the end of my bold statement.

Point still stands. Frieza is a dictator who rules through fear and completely ignores the laws. Zeno is a dictator who rules through fear and completely ignores the laws.

There is no freedom of speech within Zeno's dictatorship. People like Zamasu, who question the stability of the Universe Zeno built, are either charged for treason and executed or persuased to believe otherwise.
What dictatorship? The Omni-King barely interacts with his multiverse. Every mortal is allowed to live how he wants. Do you think people like Freeza would be allowed to run around free if the Omni-King's world was truly a "dictatorship"? He doesn't care, but he's not forcing anyone to live a certain way as long as you don't cross him. Freeza would force everyone to live under his rule if he could.

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Re: What's the difference between Zeno and Frieza?

Post by Merged Zamasu » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:33 pm

Doctor. wrote:
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Doctor. wrote:How is the Omni-king arrogant and pretentious? I doubt he even knows what those words mean.

The difference is that Freeza is aware that what he's doing is evil and doesn't care, he even enjoys it. The Omni-king doesn't seem to have a concept of morality.
Which i mentioned at the end of my bold statement.

Point still stands. Frieza is a dictator who rules through fear and completely ignores the laws. Zeno is a dictator who rules through fear and completely ignores the laws.

There is no freedom of speech within Zeno's dictatorship. People like Zamasu, who question the stability of the Universe Zeno built, are either charged for treason and executed or persuased to believe otherwise.
What dictatorship? The Omni-King barely interacts with his multiverse. Every mortal is allowed to live how he wants. Do you think people like Freeza would be allowed to run around free if the Omni-King's world was truly a "dictatorship"? He doesn't care, but he's not forcing anyone to live a certain way as long as you don't cross him. Freeza would force everyone to live under his rule if he could.
A Dictatorship is a form of government where a country or a group of countries is ruled by one person or political entity, and exercised through various mechanisms to ensure that the entity's power remains strong. Propaganda and force are methods used by Zeno to maintain his power. If a single mortal dares to commit a sin against Zeno's laws, a God of Destruction will quickly take care of that mortal's planet. The only reason Frieza was allowed to do what he did is because Zeno's servant, Beerus, had gone rogue and made a deal with Frieza, thus ensuring his survival. This also proves that Zeno's dictatorship is flawed. Also, Zeno abuses his power, as he time-travelled despite that being a sin against the Universe.

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Re: What's the difference between Zeno and Frieza?

Post by Doctor. » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:36 pm

Merged Zamasu wrote: Propaganda
Such as?
Merged Zamasu wrote:and force are methods used by Zeno to maintain his power.
Nobody has tried to oppose him besides Zamasu and Zamasu was a crazy fool who believed he was the greatest God.
Merged Zamasu wrote:Also, Zeno abuses his power, as he time-travelled despite that being a sin against the Universe.
You simulatenously defend Zamasu's views whilst criticizing the Omni-king for the exact same thing Zamasu did multiple times? The Omni-king wasn't even aware he time-travelled.

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Re: What's the difference between Zeno and Frieza?

Post by Freeza9000 » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:46 pm

Freeza enjoys and relishes on torturing other people (especially the one he hates) with his might and is arguably more sadistic than Zeno. Zeno is just an indifferent child god who just will erase you from existence rather than waste time relishing torturing. Not to mention, Zeno shows a utter distaste for evil as stated by Whis in Episode 47.

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Re: What's the difference between Zeno and Frieza?

Post by Nano » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:12 am

Zeno has zero clue what's going on at any given moment.

Frieza was aware of almost everything in his empire.

There's a difference.
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Re: What's the difference between Zeno and Frieza?

Post by Kanassa » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:31 am

What's the difference between a child pressing the pretty red button and enjoying the cool explosions, and the laughing madman that gleefully spams that button because of all the lovely suffering?
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Re: What's the difference between Zeno and Frieza?

Post by Chuquita » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:40 am

Maturity and wisdom. Omni King sees things black and white the way a very young child does. Freeza is knowingly a bad guy who has the maturity that comes with age and the wisdom that comes with gaining knowledge; Freeza chooses to be a villain. Omni King is kind of like Buu in that he's ignorant of the how his actions affect others, only how they affect himself; he has no empathy or sympathy because he doesn't know what those are. Freeza does, but decides to ignore them.
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Re: What's the difference between Zeno and Frieza?

Post by Simere » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:41 am

Even if they were exactly the same, they would be different in their inherent nature: Zeno is the ultimate god and Freeza isn't. Zeno is beyond whatever moral standards you want to hold him to.

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Re: What's the difference between Zeno and Frieza?

Post by Gog » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:52 am

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Not much, their both Tyrants, and ass holes. But ones practically a child, and the other one's Freeza.

Their design's are completely different though :)

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Re: What's the difference between Zeno and Frieza?

Post by ChronoTwigger » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:48 pm

One is a bald evil ruthless tyrant acting childlike, following inhuman instinct and causing death of billions without any care for lesser life forms. Have an army that can't say a word and fear him. Only Goku had enough spirit to face him.

The other one is Frieza.
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Re: What's the difference between Zeno and Frieza?

Post by Tsufuru » Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:24 pm

1. zeno doesnt care.
frieza cares.
2. zeno got no morality.
frieza is straight up evil.
3.zeno is the ruler of everything , he can do what ever he wants he is in the position to do whatever he wants.
frieza is not in that position and would be waaaaay worse than zeno if he would be in that position.
4. zeno is a child with power over everything what do you expect.
frieza is a smart grown up life form who knows exactly what he did when he destroys a planet.
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Re: What's the difference between Zeno and Frieza?

Post by Merged Zamasu » Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:27 pm

But you do agree they are both dictators that use fear and propaganda to control their subjects?

Personalities aside, there is little difference between Zeno's regime and Frieza's regime. I hope Zeno will die at the end of the Tournament, he is a liar, a psycopath who destroys entire Universes out of sheer enjoyment. He does not deserve to live when Zamasu and Frieza got killed for much less. The fact he is Goku's friend does not mean we should suddenly forget about the 6 Universes he destroyed for...no real reason.

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Re: What's the difference between Zeno and Frieza?

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:47 pm

Well let's see, Freeza is a cold-hearted, narcissistic, arrogant, sadistic, evil bastard who throw his weight around, by killing and torturing anyone in his sight, knowing he could do it and get away with it and face no real repercussions. He relishes all the death, agony, and destruction he creates.

Zeno is more of a man-child, who doesn't really have a a grasp of any kind of moral compass because of his neutral and indifferent outlook on the multiverse he rules. He's also a surprisingly benevolent deity, if you're display respect or a positive and nonchalant attitude towards him, as shown with Goku.

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Re: What's the difference between Zeno and Frieza?

Post by Merged Zamasu » Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:50 pm

Zeno is more of a man-child, who doesn't really have a a grasp of any kind of moral compass because of his neutral and indifferent outlook on the multiverse he rules. He's also a surprisingly benevolent deity, if you're display respect or a positive and nonchalant attitude towards him, as shown with Goku.
A benevolent God is not a deity who destroys 6 Universes just because he is bored.

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Re: What's the difference between Zeno and Frieza?

Post by LightBing » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:04 pm

It's a mistake to compare Zeno-chan to anyone. He's God, he can't be judged by any morality because they are humans creations.
There's no one who can stop him, it's like trying to judge a natural catastrophe.

By the way how did you come up with propaganda bit, there's none. You're trying too hard to make the dictatorship parallel work. Dictators try to scare their subjects and control them because they fear them, they are actually weaker than them if they united.
That doesn't apply to Zeno-chan. Freeza sure, his extermination of the Saiyan race supports this.

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