Has Krillin become the next Gohan?

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Has Krillin become the next Gohan?

Post by precita » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:24 pm

It seems Krillin is the next Gohan:

- He doesn't train anymore so his power has seriously declined

- Krillin can now be hurt by normal bullets, when even in Dragonball when he was shot by Launch they just stung but he survived.

- He is now scared of enemies/villains. While this happened in DBZ too, there was at least some weight behind it do to being outmatched.

- 18 called him "weak" for the first time ever.

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Re: Has Krillin become the next Gohan?

Post by Beyond » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:31 pm

Krillin doesn't have the annoying fanbase to be the next Gohan. Piccolo is closer in terms of annoying fanbases. Although Krillin's treatment makes no sense. He can't be stronger than Tien if this episode has any weight.

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Re: Has Krillin become the next Gohan?

Post by Kamen Rider Revolver » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:37 pm

No, Gohan is the next Gohan. They make him relevant again until he jobs and does nothing.

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Re: Has Krillin become the next Gohan?

Post by Akyon » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:40 pm

Didn't Goku once get shot by a ring and end up seriously injured?

I don't think getting hurt by a bullet is worse than that.

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Re: Has Krillin become the next Gohan?

Post by Saturnine » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:56 pm

Beyond wrote:Krillin doesn't have the annoying fanbase to be the next Gohan. Piccolo is closer in terms of annoying fanbases. Although Krillin's treatment makes no sense. He can't be stronger than Tien if this episode has any weight.
Well, the only people who ever cared about Krilling being stronger than Tien are those who value statements more than they do feats. I guess.

Even discounting all the shit Krillin took from 18 in this episode, he still got wounded by a bullet. Kinda lame.

Tien has never stopped training, just putting it out there.

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Re: Has Krillin become the next Gohan?

Post by kinisking » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:40 am

precita wrote:It seems Krillin is the next Gohan:

- He doesn't train anymore so his power has seriously declined

- Krillin can now be hurt by normal bullets, when even in Dragonball when he was shot by Launch they just stung but he survived.

- He is now scared of enemies/villains. While this happened in DBZ too, there was at least some weight behind it do to being outmatched.

- 18 called him "weak" for the first time ever.

Discuss.
Their only similarity besides for character motivation is that he got weaker. Gohan hasn't been shown to be scared in the same way krillin hss during super.
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Re: Has Krillin become the next Gohan?

Post by Doctor. » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:43 am

Akyon wrote:Didn't Goku once get shot by a ring and end up seriously injured?
It was stupid at the time, too.
Akyon wrote:I don't think getting hurt by a bullet is worse than that.
Oh, it's much worse. Sorbet's laser at least is some form of energy. Kuririn was getting hit with bullets with minimal damage back when he first trained with Roshi.

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Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:32 am

Doctor. wrote: Oh, it's much worse. Sorbet's laser at least is some form of energy. Kuririn was getting hit with bullets with minimal damage back when he first trained with Roshi.
Kuririn didn't even know how to use ki back then. Beginning of DB Kuririn > Super Kuririn confirmed?

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Post by Neon Z » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:36 am

Doctor. wrote:
Akyon wrote:Didn't Goku once get shot by a ring and end up seriously injured?
It was stupid at the time, too.
Akyon wrote:I don't think getting hurt by a bullet is worse than that.
Oh, it's much worse. Sorbet's laser at least is some form of energy. Kuririn was getting hit with bullets with minimal damage back when he first trained with Roshi.
Kuririn was shown bleeding from Launch's bullet's in the manga though. Of course, they were comedic scenes so he was back on his feet in the next scene, but Goku was only shown getting scratched in those same pannels.

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Post by Kepiaschkz » Sun Jan 22, 2017 9:22 am

1- Krilin was supposed to be vastly superior to Raditz right in the Namek Saga. He had a power levelsuperior to 10000 back then. And Raditz was able to stop a bullet with bare hands.

2-Goku at the very begining of Dragon Ball before even being trained by Roshi took a bullet from Bulma right in the head. The only thing that did to him was to fall in the back and suffer some temporary pain. It did to him no more damage than a paintball bullet would do to a random human.

Are we supposed to believe that Krilin became weaker than 12 years old Goku? With a power level inferior to 10?
Maybe inferior to Mr Satan too?

No, no and no! That scene was just a Toeï error due to not sufficiently paying attention to small details and not having a sufficiently large vision of the DB universe.
We better forget it. It's probably not in Toriyama's notes anywaysince it is a filler episode.

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Re: Has Krillin become the next Gohan?

Post by Ki Breaker » Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:34 am

The satisfying thing is Krillin indeed got weaker to the point of getting hit by a bullet without training, so it isn't just gohan who loses Power..
The odd thing is Krillin is still the strongest human, how? Does tien gets killed by a bullet as of now..
Guess tien stopped growing in strength by training and started losing power instead
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Post by The gr » Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:54 am

Ki Breaker wrote:The satisfying thing is Krillin indeed got weaker to the point of getting hit by a bullet without training, so it isn't just gohan who loses Power..
The odd thing is Krillin is still the strongest human, how? Does tien gets killed by a bullet as of now..
Guess tien stopped growing in strength by training and started losing power instead
Nothing is indicating that tien stop training he's been training nonstop but let's wait for the universe survival arc to see how strong is krillin and tien
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Re: Has Krillin become the next Gohan?

Post by namekiansaiyan » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:52 am

The gr wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:The satisfying thing is Krillin indeed got weaker to the point of getting hit by a bullet without training, so it isn't just gohan who loses Power..
The odd thing is Krillin is still the strongest human, how? Does tien gets killed by a bullet as of now..
Guess tien stopped growing in strength by training and started losing power instead
Nothing is indicating that tien stop training he's been training nonstop but let's wait for the universe survival arc to see how strong is krillin and tien
I think the only people who train are Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo and Tien.

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Re: Has Krillin become the next Gohan?

Post by The gr » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:56 am

namekiansaiyan wrote:
The gr wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:The satisfying thing is Krillin indeed got weaker to the point of getting hit by a bullet without training, so it isn't just gohan who loses Power..
The odd thing is Krillin is still the strongest human, how? Does tien gets killed by a bullet as of now..
Guess tien stopped growing in strength by training and started losing power instead
Nothing is indicating that tien stop training he's been training nonstop but let's wait for the universe survival arc to see how strong is krillin and tien
I think the only people who train are Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo and Tien.
By looking at team u7 I assume those are the only people that train everyday meanwhile the other 6 has been slacking off or not paying attention to it like Buu and roshi or stop training because they have family like 18 krillin Gohan and 17
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Re: Has Krillin become the next Gohan?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:37 pm

Is it just me, or is the whole cast starting to get more "glass-cannon-y" lately? Krillin being hurt by a bullet, yet still stronger than Freeza's men, Goku being able to punch universes or something, but having to have a special suit to survive going underground, etc. If so, this is a waaaay more interesting trend than the more or less linear progression they had back in the original story.
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Re: Has Krillin become the next Gohan?

Post by Akyon » Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:25 pm

Having seen the episode now; Krillin gets grazed by the bullet by saving his collegue from it moving the guy out the way, rather than trying to grab it with his bare hands. Reading the previous comments I honestly thought he'd been facing the gunman and was unable to dodge the bullet.
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Re: Has Krillin become the next Gohan?

Post by Zephyr » Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:29 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:Is it just me, or is the whole cast starting to get more "glass-cannon-y" lately? Krillin being hurt by a bullet, yet still stronger than Freeza's men, Goku being able to punch universes or something, but having to have a special suit to survive going underground, etc. If so, this is a waaaay more interesting trend than the more or less linear progression they had back in the original story.
You forgot about everyone's favorite laser beam. :P

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:47 pm

Zephyr wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Is it just me, or is the whole cast starting to get more "glass-cannon-y" lately? Krillin being hurt by a bullet, yet still stronger than Freeza's men, Goku being able to punch universes or something, but having to have a special suit to survive going underground, etc. If so, this is a waaaay more interesting trend than the more or less linear progression they had back in the original story.
You forgot about everyone's favorite laser beam. :P
And before that, we had the Legendary Super Saiyan Rock that caught Goku off guard.

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Post by dbs fanboy » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:03 pm

Kepiaschkz wrote:1- Krilin was supposed to be vastly superior to Raditz right in the Namek Saga. He had a power levelsuperior to 10000 back then. And Raditz was able to stop a bullet with bare hands.

2-Goku at the very begining of Dragon Ball before even being trained by Roshi took a bullet from Bulma right in the head. The only thing that did to him was to fall in the back and suffer some temporary pain. It did to him no more damage than a paintball bullet would do to a random human.

Are we supposed to believe that Krilin became weaker than 12 years old Goku? With a power level inferior to 10?
Maybe inferior to Mr Satan too?

No, no and no! That scene was just a Toeï error due to not sufficiently paying attention to small details and not having a sufficiently large vision of the DB universe.
We better forget it. It's probably not in Toriyama's notes anywaysince it is a filler episode.
I seriously think that it was intentional to make Krillin weak to this point, i mean, just like 18 said:"I can't believe you were harmed by a mere bullet", obviously in universe it's being acknowledged the fact that this sort of thing shouldn't have ever happened.
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Post by The_Destroyer » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:24 pm

The gr wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:The satisfying thing is Krillin indeed got weaker to the point of getting hit by a bullet without training, so it isn't just gohan who loses Power..
The odd thing is Krillin is still the strongest human, how? Does tien gets killed by a bullet as of now..
Guess tien stopped growing in strength by training and started losing power instead
Nothing is indicating that tien stop training he's been training nonstop but let's wait for the universe survival arc to see how strong is krillin and tien
People say this, but what suggests he trains non stop? If Krillin has fallen this low, then Tien should have surpassed him. He probably quit training as much as he used to and just farms. Hell, the end credits just show him farming.

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