If 17 and 18 have Infinite Energy , why didnt they give all the Energy Goku needed for the Universal Spirit Bomb ?

[DSB]

Infinite Energy = Infinitely power Spirit bomb , right ????

Why is there this Plot hole ?

[mute_proxy]

You really think Dr. Gero mechanically made an infinite ki power source? lol. I don't think the androids run on ki. Their human side has some ki, yes, but that infinite power supply is something mechanical.

[Ki Breaker]

By that logic Gohan's alone would be enough.
Every creature contributes genki not related to their power levels..

[TheMikado]

The androids have no ki and can't be sensed at all.

[ChaosLordBrandon]

The spirit bomb uses life energy.

[rereboy]

Infinite Energy = Infinitely power Spirit bomb , right ????

Why is there this Plot hole ?

Ki is made of different kinds of energy. Genki is one of the types of energy that Ki is made of, but Ki has a lot more.

The Genki Dama only collects genki energy.

The androids' power is not based on Ki or genki, but an artificial kind of energy. They still have some Ki/genki since they are mostly biological which means that they can give energy to the Genki Dama, but what made them powerful was the artificial power.

[Nejishiki]

While it's true No. 17 & No. 18 possess infinite energy generators, that doesn't particularly imply possession of infinite genki, too. Goku's Super Genki Dama receives willing donations, after all. It's likely they'd pass out from providing too much genki as normal humans would. I'm certain No. 17 & No. 18 provided all they could for Goku. Concerning separate comments, the duo possesses ki, as well. If they didn't, they'd be dead! What makes the twins unique is that their modifications rendered them untraceable.

[DragonBallLove]

I agree with the previous answers doing a distinction btw the types of energy in DB. But, even if we were going to adscribe infinite ki generation to the androids, that doesn't mean an infinite output. Imagine a AAA battery that nevers run out. It can make your remote works until kingdom come, but it would do shit to power an electric car (unless you do a very big, messy and stupid system interconecting a whole lot of batteries of the same or different type - a genkidama).
In many DB videogames its very easy to figure the nature of the Androids infinite engine. Its just an auto-charge for ki. Their ki never ends, they doesn't get tired, etc. But nothing more than that.
Come to think on that, they're excellent tanks by definition...

[Gligarman]

I just assumed if they ever tried that all of their energy would be absorbed by a plot hole.

[FoolsGil]

First off, it was stated that Androids 17 and 18 have an infinite access to a level of energy, in contrast to 19 and 20 who need to absorb others energy to function.

Second, whether its ki or not, the fact that at the end of the Buu Saga 17 (and #8) raised their hands into the air meant they were able to give Goku something

Now, why they couldn't give all the Energy to Goku? Well, they could, but it would take forever. The energy expelled would have likely left the same rate as any other human, there's no reason to think that the Androids on their end could force the energy out any faster.

[DSB]

First off, it was stated that Androids 17 and 18 have an infinite access to a level of energy, in contrast to 19 and 20 who need to absorb others energy to function.

Second, whether its ki or not, the fact that at the end of the Buu Saga 17 (and #8) raised their hands into the air meant they were able to give Goku something

Now, why they couldn't give all the Energy to Goku? Well, they could, but it would take forever. The energy expelled would have likely left the same rate as any other human, there's no reason to think that the Androids on their end could force the energy out any faster.

If they were to expel energy like Normal Humans , they wont be able to make any form of Ki blasts

[FoolsGil]

First off, it was stated that Androids 17 and 18 have an infinite access to a level of energy, in contrast to 19 and 20 who need to absorb others energy to function.

Second, whether its ki or not, the fact that at the end of the Buu Saga 17 (and #8) raised their hands into the air meant they were able to give Goku something

Now, why they couldn't give all the Energy to Goku? Well, they could, but it would take forever. The energy expelled would have likely left the same rate as any other human, there's no reason to think that the Androids on their end could force the energy out any faster.

If they were to expel energy like Normal Humans , they wont be able to make any form of Ki blasts

Well they're Androids, so they can make ki blasts, but they aren't expelling any energy to make a spirit bomb any faster.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

The attack doesn't use generic energy, it uses "genki", hence "Genki-dama". Genki roughly translates to "health energy", so the Genki-dama relies on the healthy portion of everyone's ki.

Not only do Gero's modifications not produce actual Ki, it definitely doesn't produce genki.

[Gog]

The Genki Dama takes Genki. Not energy, not Ki. Genki there literally different things. Genki is positive energy, Ki is power from your physical body and Energy is a mechanical power.

[Nejishiki]

Actually, it's all ki. Separate, specific sections of ki, in fact. Genki is one classification of ki.

What is the key to winning in battle?
In battle, the most important thing is the size of your ki, and your control over it. Ki as a concept of course includes such spiritual powers as energy [genki], courage [yūki], and right-mindedness [shōki]. No matter how much you train, there are limits to physical strength, and the only way to overcome that is through ki. I think Goku was able to approach the mightiest warriors in the universe through strengthening his ki.

And the categories don't end there, they're simply the main elements!

[Gog]

Actually, it's all ki. Separate, specific sections of ki, in fact. Genki is one classification of ki.

What is the key to winning in battle?
In battle, the most important thing is the size of your ki, and your control over it. Ki as a concept of course includes such spiritual powers as energy [genki], courage [yūki], and right-mindedness [shōki]. No matter how much you train, there are limits to physical strength, and the only way to overcome that is through ki. I think Goku was able to approach the mightiest warriors in the universe through strengthening his ki.

And the categories don't end there, they're simply the main elements!

Dammit Nejishiki coming around and proving me wrong! . However, what powers the androids. Energy isn't any of those, so there's that at the very least.

[DSB]

Actually, it's all ki. Separate, specific sections of ki, in fact. Genki is one classification of ki.

What is the key to winning in battle?
In battle, the most important thing is the size of your ki, and your control over it. Ki as a concept of course includes such spiritual powers as energy [genki], courage [yūki], and right-mindedness [shōki]. No matter how much you train, there are limits to physical strength, and the only way to overcome that is through ki. I think Goku was able to approach the mightiest warriors in the universe through strengthening his ki.

And the categories don't end there, they're simply the main elements!

Dammit Nejishiki coming around and proving me wrong! . However, what powers the androids. Energy isn't any of those, so there's that at the very least.

There falls your assumptions . Androids made ENERGY Blasts . If these 3 are the main elements , then CLEARLY they have Genki/Energy , which is Infinite .

I believe Its a Plot Hole

[rereboy]

Actually, it's all ki. Separate, specific sections of ki, in fact. Genki is one classification of ki.And the categories don't end there, they're simply the main elements!

Dammit Nejishiki coming around and proving me wrong! . However, what powers the androids. Energy isn't any of those, so there's that at the very least.

There falls your assumptions . Androids made ENERGY Blasts . If these 3 are the main elements , then CLEARLY they have Genki/Energy , which is Infinite .

I believe Its a Plot Hole

Energy is just an all-encompassing term. Mechanical power can be considered energy and so can Ki, but they are not the same.

[DSB]

Dammit Nejishiki coming around and proving me wrong! . However, what powers the androids. Energy isn't any of those, so there's that at the very least.

There falls your assumptions . Androids made ENERGY Blasts . If these 3 are the main elements , then CLEARLY they have Genki/Energy , which is Infinite .

I believe Its a Plot Hole

Energy is just an all-encompassing term. Mechanical power can be considered energy and so can Ki, but they are not the same.

They MADE ENERGY Blasts ... How many types of Energies can make Energy Blasts ?????

[rereboy]

There falls your assumptions . Androids made ENERGY Blasts . If these 3 are the main elements , then CLEARLY they have Genki/Energy , which is Infinite .

I believe Its a Plot Hole

Energy is just an all-encompassing term. Mechanical power can be considered energy and so can Ki, but they are not the same.

They MADE ENERGY Blasts ... How many types of Energies can make Energy Blasts ?????

So did the battle suits of the RR army. So does a laser. Doesn't mean it's Ki.