Is there a SSJ 5 Transformation, although not canon, Universally accepted?

[successoroffate]

There was a reference to the transformation on GT (depending on which dub/sub version you saw). We have the inverted or alternate version of Gogeta SS4 from Ultimate Tenkaichi (if I'm not mistaken) which looks oddly similar to SS5. Mira's final form in Xenoverse 2 looks pretty close to a SS5. Most of the fan comics that go beyond GT, have a consistent design for a SS5. Last but not least, A LOT of Mods for both Xenoverse 1 and 2 with a SS5 form for Goku. Some of those listed, are consistent with the fan made "Tablos" character from the year 2000:



So, can we make the rebuttable presumption that this is indeed the SS5 form universally accepted by the community?

[Metalwario64]

I absolutely love that it turned out not to be Goku after all, because that means that for all of these years, everyone has been drawing pictures of "Tablos"!

[successoroffate]

I absolutely love that it turned out not to be Goku after all, because that means that for all of these years, everyone has been drawing pictures of "Tablos"!

Yeah, that is true. We got trolled.

[Nejishiki]

When Bluma brought up a "Super Saiyan 5" for Vegeta, she was speaking hypothetically. It occurred near the end of Dragon Ball GT so I'm not too sure the anime staff had a design in mind for it. It's definitely not your image though. That was created by an unknown fan. The community may view it as "The Design" but it's not officially recognized, if that's what you're asking. I'm not sure what you're citing from Dragon Ball GT Perfect Files but I don't think it claims the Super Saiyan 5 transformation (unless it's repeating what Bluma said).

[TheGreatness25]

I think that's the generally accepted Super Saiyan 5 design -- fan made or not. The thing is that when it first came out, the internet was very primitive. The image surfaced and referenced to as Akira Toriyama's Super Saiyan 5 design. Rumors of another series started circulating and the fans got really into it. Yes, it ended up being fan-made, but because of what Dragon Ball AF became, I'd say that it is the people's "definitive" Super Saiyan 5. For the fans that are too young or did not experience it, the idea of Dragon Ball AF (which was accompanied by that design for Super Saiyan 5) came before the manga that you know. The fact that Dragon Ball AF was so influential as to spawn so many fan-created works -- from videos to manga to fan-made games -- shows just how much we wanted to believe in it.



To think that this image started it all. Amazing.

It was my best friend's 11th or 12th birthday and we were in the ball pit of a McDonald's when we discussed this. I mean, damn.

[successoroffate]

When Bluma brought up a "Super Saiyan 5" for Vegeta, she was speaking hypothetically. It occurred near the end of Dragon Ball GT so I'm not too sure the anime staff had a design in mind for it. It's definitely not your image though. That was created by an unknown fan. The community may view it as "The Design" but it's not officially recognized, if that's what you're asking. I'm not sure what you're citing from Dragon Ball GT Perfect Files but I don't think it claims the Super Saiyan 5 transformation (unless it's repeating what Bluma said).

Well, I wasn't really meaning such form to be the "official" one cause it doesn't really exists but more on the lines of what you said as "The design."
I am looking at Herms translation, I remember reading that somewhere. If I don't find it, I'll take it out.

[successoroffate]

To think that this image started it all. Amazing.

It was my best friend's 11th or 12th birthday and we were in the ball pit of a McDonald's when we discussed this. I mean, damn.

I wanted it to be real, in an era where the internet wasn't as accessible and reliable as it is today. Back then, you would see this and think "THIS HAS TO BE REAL." I went as far as to think that it was already airing in Japan.

[TheGreatness25]

To think that this image started it all. Amazing.

It was my best friend's 11th or 12th birthday and we were in the ball pit of a McDonald's when we discussed this. I mean, damn.

I wanted it to be real, in an era where the internet wasn't as accessible and reliable as it is today. Back then, you would see this and think "THIS HAS TO BE REAL." I went as far as to think that it was already airing in Japan.

Of course. This was during a time where most of DBZ didn't even air in the U.S. and I was a little kid, used to reading summaries and getting pictures of stuff that happens later on from the internet. When this came along, it just had to be real! lol I think that when kids start talking, that's what leads to "It must be airing in Japan!" Because, you know, there were always a bunch of kids that claimed to have seen it all.

[sintzu]

Although that's not an official design, I can see Shueisha tracking down whoever designed it and getting his OK to use it officially.

[mfwlegend3]

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I wonder how this artist feels (he's from Spain, if I recall?) about his OC being taken, used and re-made into something like SS5 Goku. Even Toyo used it when he was under the alias of Toyble for his AF doujin. I heard that the artist actually has a blog which hosts most of his artwork from his "AF" fan fiction, including the infamous "SS5 Goku" one. It's honestly ironic how many dubbed this as Goku's next transformation yet in the artist's AF story, Goku is dead.

[mute_proxy]

A guy named David Montiel Franco made that in 1998. He actually drew more: http://gokuss5.altervista.org/dmf.html But none of those have that quality look

Here's nicer quality:
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[Big Green The Yoshi]

Super Saiyan 4 unlocks all of your Saiyan hidden potential, so unless Super Saiyan 5 goes beyond your limits, it logically can't exist.

[sintzu]

Super Saiyan 4 unlocks all of your Saiyan hidden potential.

So did Ssj3.

[Big Green The Yoshi]

Super Saiyan 4 unlocks all of your Saiyan hidden potential.

So did Ssj3.

Except SSJ4 doesn't eat away at your ki.

[sintzu]

Except SSJ4 doesn't eat away at your ki.

My point was that them saying it doesn't mean they won't do it again.

Guro unlocked Gohan's full potential on Namek.

But it turned out he unlocked his true potential against Cell

But even that wasn't it and his true true potential was unlocked by the Old Kai.

[Big Green The Yoshi]

Except SSJ4 doesn't eat away at your ki.

My point was that them saying it doesn't mean they won't do it again.

Guro unlocked Gohan's full potential on Namek.

But it turned out he unlocked his true potential against Cell

But even that wasn't it and his true true potential was unlocked by the Old Kai.

I believe all of those except Old Kai's are tapping into your potential. Old Kai unlocked ALL of Gohan's potential.

[mute_proxy]

Full potential is not a fixed number. He had his potential "unlocked" at that moment in time. Gohan got stronger beyond that time, and his potential expanded accordingly.

[rereboy]

A guy named David Montiel Franco made that in 1998. He actually drew more: http://gokuss5.altervista.org/dmf.html But none of those have that quality look

Here's nicer quality:
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Wow, this is the first time I notice (thanks to the higher quality) how his pupils actually are. They're way close, it actually "derps" the whole design

[mute_proxy]

There are no pupils, only dark eyeliner

[rereboy]

There are no pupils, only dark eyeliner

Granted, it's not very clear, but in the high quality pic I'm seeing what seems to be pupils on the edge of each eye. They are kind of dark gray while the eyeliner is black.