Your thoughts on toyotaro take of the U6 tournament

[The gr]

What are your honest opinion on the manga version of the u6 tournament ranging from chapter 5 to 13 I want your honest opinion on it like character interaction fighting choreography etc and I want no comparison from the anime version I'm gonna post my opinion later

[Beyond]

It wanks the saiyans too much. Goku and Vegeta were definitely a good deal stronger than everyone else, including hit. Piccolo was even more of a chump. I'll take the inconsistency of the anime if it adds excitement.

[TheUltimateNinja]

I'd probably give it a 2.8/5 overall.

Character interaction: 4/5

Choreography: 4/5

Art: 3/5

Plot coherence: 2/5

Powerscaling: 1/5

[Lord Beerus]

Apart for the Goku/Botamo fight, it paled in comparison to what we got in the anime. Piccolo jobbed out in the worst way in and Hit was a one-trick pony. There was so much more emphasis that Goku and Vegeta could have single-handedly won the whole tournament on their own, in comparison to what we got in the anime, where the U6 fighters actully put up much more of a fight.

[The gr]

Apart for the Goku/Botamo fight, it paled in comparison to what we got in the anime. Piccolo jobbed out in the worst way in and Hit was a one-trick pony. There was so much more emphasis that Goku and Vegeta could have single-handedly won the whole tournament on their own, in comparison to what we got in the anime, where the U6 fighters actully put up much more of a fight.

Wow many people misread my post i said no comparison to the anime but whatever and the only fighter in u6 that put up a figth in the anime was hit the others are just jobbers

[LightBing]

It had it's up and downs. Looking at all the tournaments we had in Dragon Ball (Manga) it's probably the weakest. It doesn't help that it rushed certain parts.
The biggest highlight was Vegeta vs Magetta. It felt like the old gag fights from Dragon Ball, I loved it.

It suffered from having too much Frost, his fight against Goku was too long when compared with Piccolo vs Frost for example.
Like it's common in all mediums of Super it had a bunch of callbacks. Which normally isn't a good thing. Frost repeating Freeza's poses had me eye rolling.
I give credit to some great ones, like the callback to Vegeta killing Nappa, here used against Cabba. It's was a clever way to demonstrate the character's growth in regards his treatment of fellow Saiyans.

Extra points for going out of it's way to try and be consistent. Even if not all attempts were good.

Overall, it was fine.

[Lord Beerus]

Apart for the Goku/Botamo fight, it paled in comparison to what we got in the anime. Piccolo jobbed out in the worst way in and Hit was a one-trick pony. There was so much more emphasis that Goku and Vegeta could have single-handedly won the whole tournament on their own, in comparison to what we got in the anime, where the U6 fighters actully put up much more of a fight.

Wow many people misread my post i said no comparison to the anime but whatever and the only fighter in u6 that put up a figth in the anime was hit the others are just jobbers

Oh, sorry. Well... it was pretty underwhelming, for the lack of a better word. As I already said, Piccolo jobbed out in the worst way in, Hit was a one-trick pony, Cabba and Vegeta was disappointing and Frost had zero character. There was so much emphasis that Goku and Vegeta could have single-handedly won the whole tournament on their own, that it resulted in the tournament having less tension.

[Gog]

Apart for the Goku/Botamo fight, it paled in comparison to what we got in the anime. Piccolo jobbed out in the worst way in and Hit was a one-trick pony. There was so much more emphasis that Goku and Vegeta could have single-handedly won the whole tournament on their own, in comparison to what we got in the anime, where the U6 fighters actully put up much more of a fight.

Wow many people misread my post i said no comparison to the anime but whatever and the only fighter in u6 that put up a figth in the anime was hit the others are just jobbers

Oh, sorry. Well... it was pretty underwhelming, for the lack of a better word. As I already said, Piccolo jobbed out in the worst way in, Hit was a one-trick pony, Cabba and Vegeta was disappointing and Frost had zero character. There was so much emphasis that Goku and Vegeta could have single-handedly won the whole tournament on their own, that it resulted in the tournament having less tension.

Wait a minute? Frost had zero character? I thought he was better than he was in the anime. Care to explain?

[The gr]

Apart for the Goku/Botamo fight, it paled in comparison to what we got in the anime. Piccolo jobbed out in the worst way in and Hit was a one-trick pony. There was so much more emphasis that Goku and Vegeta could have single-handedly won the whole tournament on their own, in comparison to what we got in the anime, where the U6 fighters actully put up much more of a fight.

Wow many people misread my post i said no comparison to the anime but whatever and the only fighter in u6 that put up a figth in the anime was hit the others are just jobbers

Oh, sorry. Well... it was pretty underwhelming, for the lack of a better word. As I already said, Piccolo jobbed out in the worst way in, Hit was a one-trick pony, Cabba and Vegeta was disappointing and Frost had zero character. There was so much emphasis that Goku and Vegeta could have single-handedly won the whole tournament on their own, that it resulted in the tournament having less tension.

Cabba and Vegeta was fine in both the manga and anime but I agree piccolo got a short screen time in this i wish his battle lasted for At least 15 pages and frost kind have a personality through I prefer his other portrayal

here my thoughts on it it was ok but not great but it was weakest tournament arc because the cast usage was poor the u6 figthers was kinda underwhelming and it was a Vegeta wankfest and is pointless but tbh there are the same issue I share with the anime and manga and i don't how toyble drags goku vs frost through it was a great fight and hit got jobbed through I don't think the manga made hit worse

but now for the positives I love Vegeta vs cabba what an amazing figth that was I love cabba tactics that transformation was emotional and all the figths were good with the expectation of Vegeta vs hit and Vegeta vs Maggie was hilarious like light Bing said it was a great gag fight and piccolo had awesome line in this but i wish piccolo vs frost was longer because it only lasted 7 pages

overall this arc had great character moment and cool figths like Goku vs hit or Vegeta vs cabba goku vs botamo and etc but it suffers from poor cast usage and a rushed ending

[perucho1990]

Started out good but it went downhill after the Goku vs Frost fight, everything was rushed with no tension at all, quite the opposite happened in the anime.

Piccolo got the worst treatment by far, at least in the anime he couldve won if only Frost didnt use his poison, i liked how Piccolo completely outsmarted him.

[The gr]

Started out good but it went downhill after the Goku vs Frost fight, everything was rushed with no tension at all, quite the opposite happened in the anime.

Piccolo got the worst treatment by far, at least in the anime he couldve won if only Frost didnt use his poison, i liked how Piccolo completely outsmarted him.

But in the manga it was stated that frost could not defeat piccolo or piccolo could not defeat frost resulting a stalemate hence the reason he cheated and the manga did have tension with piccolo vs frost and Vegeta vs hit but that's pretty much it

[MyNiggaGoku]

Hm let's see.
Character interactions:The interactions in the manga were pretty good imo.Pretty good dialogues & occasional Toriyama-esque humor which was appreciated.
Grade:A
Fighting:Choreography was always on point.The fights were mostly pretty good.Goku Vs Botamo,Goku Vs Frost & Vegeta Vs Cabba were my favourites.The only fights I had a problem with were Vegeta Vs Hit & Piccolo Vs Frost (they were too short for my likings).Also SSG(my favourite form)against Hit,I loved it.
Grade:A-
Art:The art was consistently brilliant.Toyo makes me proud that he is Toriyama's successor.Goku's Kamehameha against Hit is my absolute favourite.I loved every bit of it.
Grade:A+
Powerscaling:Many criticize SSB's nerfing because this form is supposed to be ki-conserving,but this is only stated in the movies and the anime.No contradiction is being made in the manga because no such statement is made inside it.
Grade:B
Overall,I would give the whole arc a A- without comparing it to the anime.

[pacz360]

It was ok at first but became straight up terrible after the goku vs frost fight.
Piccolo got treated far worse in the manga in the anime he was able block some of frost blows and outsmarted him and nearly won hadn't for frost poison.
Hit was the main victim of this arc. in the anime he was able to stomp vegeta with "no hurr durr he lost half of his power bullshit" excuse and forced goku to use kkx10 in ssjb while keeping up with him without using his killing techniques.
Manga nope either goku or vegeta could've soloed the entire team by themselves in the manga literally worse than it was in the anime

[The gr]

I think the manga version of this tournament starts to fall apart when you compared to the anime because is too simple and grounded meanwhile in the anime is crazy over the top madness and is epic through it makes no sense like kaioken x10 or Vegeta and Goku have no reason to hold back hence the reason why I want no comparison from both version in this thread

[The_Destroyer]

I liked how the Manga gave an explanation to U6 Sayain's lack of tails, and I liked their take on Frost. He wasn't Frieza 2.0, the evil emperor. He was just some douchebag who didn't even want to be there. I like that so much better. Hit was more friendly here, which was neat. Buu getting his name wrong on the test was funny.

I didn't like how weak they were made out to be. In previous tournaments, there was always that fighter who was a real threat and could beat Goku. Here, Goku pretty much was going to win that fight, since Hit couldn't beat him without killing him. Thought that was pretty underwhelming.

And Piccolo...yeah that was pretty bad.


Overall it was okay, but could have been much better.

[batistabus]

Fantastic. I've re-read this arc probably a dozen times by now. There are so many little details that make it authentic and interestingly unique. Toyotaro's art is a treat as well. Every fight is superior to the anime, with the exception of the Cabba/Monaka fights (which are nearly identical).

The Botamo fight is short, sweet, has great comedic timing, and properly represents Goku as a clever fighter (coming up with a solution even Vegeta and Piccolo missed).

The Magetta fight in the anime is completely absurd. The manga takes a much more reasonable approach, and the overall result is much more satisfying. Again, the comedic timing far surpasses the anime, which almost ignores that aspect entirely.

The Frost situation is downplayed a bit more. He's not this horrible guy pretending to be a savior, he's just sneaky. The fight vs Goku is very well choreographed. Piccolo doesn't stand a chance, but he doesn't have to use that ridiculous "strategy" they created in the anime to put up a decent fight. Vegeta's shot is very satisfying.

People are upset by the fact that Hit is much weaker than he is in the anime, but I think it makes perfect sense. He's such a threat because of his 1,000 years of experience and his unique ability...he's not a god, and he doesn't need to be insanely strong to be a huge threat (although by all means he is still very strong).

I love it!

[Cipher]

I like that it isn't the purplest shit ever.

[RehBeh]

What's with everyone saying Hit is weaker in the manga? Because Goku didn't use Kaio-Ken? That's just a decision Toei made, plus Goku admits that Hit is better than him in the manga too.

[TekTheNinja]

Wow many people misread my post i said no comparison to the anime but whatever and the only fighter in u6 that put up a figth in the anime was hit the others are just jobbers

Oh, sorry. Well... it was pretty underwhelming, for the lack of a better word. As I already said, Piccolo jobbed out in the worst way in, Hit was a one-trick pony, Cabba and Vegeta was disappointing and Frost had zero character. There was so much emphasis that Goku and Vegeta could have single-handedly won the whole tournament on their own, that it resulted in the tournament having less tension.

Wait a minute? Frost had zero character? I thought he was better than he was in the anime. Care to explain?

I'd say he was better in the manga BECAUSE his character wasn't expanded on as much. In the anime they expanded more on who he is, revealing in the end that he's just a shitty Frieza clone. In the manga they left more to the imagination, revealing that Frost was a cheater but not much else.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I like that it isn't the purplest shit ever.

You're just jealous, I'd like to see you make something so competent and blue/purple at the same time.

What's with everyone saying Hit is weaker in the manga? Because Goku didn't use Kaio-Ken? That's just a decision Toei made, plus Goku admits that Hit is better than him in the manga too.

Hit was able to compete with an SSB Kaioken in the anime, he couldn't even match up to SSB at his full power in the manga. So yeah, he was weaker in Toyotaro's version.