Could there possibly be someone stronger than Boo in U7?

[Xeztin]

Basically what I'm asking is if there could be someone as strong as Majin Boo/SSJ 3 in Universe 7 besides Goku, Vegeta, Beerus, and Whis. I've seen a lot saying we should have explored U7 more like we did in GT, but would someone like General Rilldo really be buyable? Could someone so strong fly under Goku's and the Kai's radar? If Goku was picking up the energy of Gotenk's and Super Boo on Surpeme Kai's world, surely he would have felt someone on a distant planet. That might have been why Toriyama introduced God Ki and Beerus in the first place, because it wouldn't be plausible for a mortal that strong to exist under the radar. Of course it could be an android but that wouldn't be much fun since we've been there and done that. The only way I see how it would work would be someone being awoken that was dormant like Boo was, or someone being revived like Freeza was. I don't think there will be another threat that will originate from Universe 7 and I don't think there's another who'd join the Universe 7 team.

What do you guys think?

[FoolsGil]

Well, there was that Copy Jello thing.

[RehBeh]

As for now, no. There's plenty of reasons, with the main one being that Kaioshin statements. The only one stronger than Boo right now is Goku, Vegeta, Beerus and Whis. (And Gohan if he's in shape again)
As for Rildo, it is debatable as to who Boo Goku was referring. Either Pure (Kid) or Mr. Boo. Possible he was talking about Mr. Boo so the kids could grasp his power .

[Totamo]

I don't remember much about the black star arc but I do remember, Goku was heavily nerfed during that adventure and I also believe that vegeta was just as strong as he was as an adult this being how they fused into gogeta so no.

That was the biggest problem about that arc, goku oneshotted everything making pan absolutely useless and trunks a less cooler bulma.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Of course there could be, each universe is a vast place. Look no further than GT for examples as to how it they could work. Rild had strength and abilities far beyond Boo, he had complete control over metal, to the point that he could merge his body with it. Or Baby, who's basically Cell, only far more powerful and with the ability to control minds.

You could argue that if someone stronger were out there, Whis or the Kaioshin would know about it, but people forget that while their powers of observation are vast, they aren't perfect. Remember that Kaioshin didn't know of Babidi and Dabra's alliance, even though they were together for hundreds of years. These characters aren't omniscient, they have to actively search for whatever they want to observe, so there could be someone stronger than Beerus on a planet somewhere in Bumfuck Nowhere, U7 and no one would know about it.

As for sensing their Ki... well, why couldn't Goku or anyone else sense Dabra's Ki before the Boo Arc, despite being able to sense King Kai, who is on a whole other plane of existence? I doubt Dabra was hiding his Ki for decades at a time. Digging into these things isn't very useful, there's no rhyme or reason to it.

I don't remember much about the black star arc but I do remember, Goku was heavily nerfed during that adventure and I also believe that vegeta was just as strong as he was as an adult this being how they fused into gogeta so no.

Goku was not nerfed in GT. The only problem he ever had was his stamina in SS3, which he didn't even use until the Baby fights. Obviously, that problem didn't last long, either. Granted, the writers did drag conflicts out by having Goku and Trunks not transform, but that's neither here nor there.

[Totamo]

Of course there could be, each universe is a vast place. Look no further than GT for examples as to how it they could work. Rild had strength and abilities far beyond Boo, he had complete control over metal, to the point that he could merge his body with it. Or Baby, who's basically Cell, only far more powerful and with the ability to control minds.

You could argue that if someone stronger were out there, Whis or the Kaioshin would know about it, but people forget that while their powers of observation are vast, they aren't perfect. Remember that Kaioshin didn't know of Babidi and Dabra's alliance, even though they were together for hundreds of years. These characters aren't omniscient, they have to actively search for whatever they want to observe, so there could be someone stronger than Beerus on a planet somewhere in Bumfuck Nowhere, U7 and no one would know about it.

As for sensing their Ki... well, why couldn't Goku or anyone else sense Dabra's Ki before the Boo Arc, despite being able to sense King Kai, who is on a whole other plane of existence? I doubt Dabra was hiding his Ki for decades at a time. Digging into these things isn't very useful, there's no rhyme or reason to it.

I don't remember much about the black star arc but I do remember, Goku was heavily nerfed during that adventure and I also believe that vegeta was just as strong as he was as an adult this being how they fused into gogeta so no.

Goku was not nerfed in GT. The only problem he ever had was his stamina in SS3, which he didn't even use until the Baby fights. Obviously, that problem didn't last long, either. Granted, the writers did drag conflicts out by having Goku and Trunks not transform, but that's neither here nor there.

Goku said his body was weaker as a kid that he couldn't withstand super saiyan 3, it wasn't stamina, he literally could not use it. In GT, ki is based off the body and goku was a kid throughout and most information i find on the show say the exact same thing. Rildo even says super saiyan goku is twice as strong as base goku.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Goku said his body was weaker as a kid that he couldn't withstand super saiyan 3, it wasn't stamina, he literally could not use it. In GT, ki is based off the body and goku was a kid throughout and most information i find on the show say the exact same thing. Rildo even says super saiyan goku is twice as strong as base goku.

Source that. Source everything you just said, then I'll take it seriously.

Give me the episode number, screenshot or quote the show, anything. Right now I'm pretty sure you just made all of that up.

[Totamo]

Goku said his body was weaker as a kid that he couldn't withstand super saiyan 3, it wasn't stamina, he literally could not use it. In GT, ki is based off the body and goku was a kid throughout and most information i find on the show say the exact same thing. Rildo even says super saiyan goku is twice as strong as base goku.

Source that. Source everything you just said, then I'll take it seriously.

Give me the episode number, screenshot or quote the show, anything. Right now I'm pretty sure you just made all of that up.

give me a second

[pacz360]

As for now, no. There's plenty of reasons, with the main one being that Kaioshin statements. The only one stronger than Boo right now is Goku, Vegeta, Beerus and Whis. (And Gohan if he's in shape again)
As for Rildo, it is debatable as to who Boo Goku was referring. Either Pure (Kid) or Mr. Boo. Possible he was talking about Mr. Boo so the kids could grasp his power .

No it was kid buu considering the context of it and given kid buu gave goku a tough fight before.

[pacz360]

Goku said his body was weaker as a kid that he couldn't withstand super saiyan 3, it wasn't stamina, he literally could not use it. In GT, ki is based off the body and goku was a kid throughout and most information i find on the show say the exact same thing. Rildo even says super saiyan goku is twice as strong as base goku.

Source that. Source everything you just said, then I'll take it seriously.

Give me the episode number, screenshot or quote the show, anything. Right now I'm pretty sure you just made all of that up.

Same either put up or shut up.

[RehBeh]

No it was kid buu considering the context of it and given kid buu gave goku a tough fight before.

It's highly possible.

[RehBeh]

Or Baby, who's basically Cell, only far more powerful and with the ability to control minds.

Why Baby is like Cell?

[SaiyanGod117]

Nope, I don't believe so. We have people like Whis, Beerus, and the Kais who have been living in Universe 7 for tens to hundreds of million of years. If they haven't come across a being of that strength yet, than there probably isn't one.

[Lunaar]

Nope, I don't believe so. We have people like Whis, Beerus, and the Kais who have been living in Universe 7 for tens to hundreds of million of years. If they haven't come across a being of that strength yet, than there probably isn't one.

While I agree for the sake of how unlikely it is, I wouldn't say it's entirely impossible. We've seen Toriyama write some cray cray stuff; this wouldn't be outside of his realm of plausibility.

If we were to assume that the Kaio/Kaioshin are able to keep watch over individuals of high-caliber power... should we conclude that they've been keeping with some of Goku's antics? Freeza was renowned as a galactic tyrant and I'm having difficulty remembering if the Kaioshin actually ever acknowledged his defeat. I know that Cell has never been mentioned by them, however. That situation was too self-contained for it gain any attention outside of Kaio's. If anybody has any source on that, I'd appreciate the clarification (I'm at work, so my resources are limited at the moment. Shh, don't tell )

While the Kaio have been known to keep watch over activity in their respective galaxies, does that mean they're aware of kind hearted but powerful martial artists, keeping to themselves? I always assumed Majin Boo was renowned and feared for his path of destruction and chaotic nature. Of course they'll know about it. He set the bar for destructive forces in the universe, excluding Godly activities.

Again, food for thought. There is reason enough to believe that there could be someone out there as strong, yet kind and non-threatening as Goku.

[Smilodon]

This guy did "more" than Goku SSJ3 in first time:

And there's a possibility of Metalman in U7 too (I think he was stronger than Boo)...Or even another Hitto.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Or Baby, who's basically Cell, only far more powerful and with the ability to control minds.

Why Baby is like Cell?

Made from others' cells, absorbs people for energy and power. Constant allusions to achieving his "perfect form" (sound familiar yet?)

[Xeztin]

Nope, I don't believe so. We have people like Whis, Beerus, and the Kais who have been living in Universe 7 for tens to hundreds of million of years. If they haven't come across a being of that strength yet, than there probably isn't one.

While I agree for the sake of how unlikely it is, I wouldn't say it's entirely impossible. We've seen Toriyama write some cray cray stuff; this wouldn't be outside of his realm of plausibility.

If we were to assume that the Kaio/Kaioshin are able to keep watch over individuals of high-caliber power... should we conclude that they've been keeping with some of Goku's antics? Freeza was renowned as a galactic tyrant and I'm having difficulty remembering if the Kaioshin actually ever acknowledged his defeat. I know that Cell has never been mentioned by them, however. That situation was too self-contained for it gain any attention outside of Kaio's. If anybody has any source on that, I'd appreciate the clarification (I'm at work, so my resources are limited at the moment. Shh, don't tell )

While the Kaio have been known to keep watch over activity in their respective galaxies, does that mean they're aware of kind hearted but powerful martial artists, keeping to themselves? I always assumed Majin Boo was renowned and feared for his path of destruction and chaotic nature. Of course they'll know about it. He set the bar for destructive forces in the universe, excluding Godly activities.

Again, food for thought. There is reason enough to believe that there could be someone out there as strong, yet kind and non-threatening as Goku.

This is very possible, but if they are basically good guy's that means 9 times out of 10 we will never see them and if we do it'll most likely be because of a tournament and Beerus wants him on the team. Anyhow I'd think Beerus would have got someone that strong instead of having Monaka who pretended to be strong, to save some effort.

[Lord Beerus]

Hell yeah. The universe is fucking huge. There is bound to be someone stronger than Majin Boo in it.

[kinisking]

Hell yeah. The universe is fucking huge. There is bound to be someone stronger than Majin Boo in it.

I don't buy it. Freeza was able to control pretty much the entire universe and he's much weaker than Boo. You got to remember that Boo is insanely strong for a non-god, at least by u7 standards. Hes even stronger than the Supreme Kai which should be stronger than any mortal. Just because the universe is huge doesn't mean there is infinite possibilities. They might be able to bullshit a character stronger in Universe 7 and I'd accept it but acting like it's a certainty that it exists isnt something I agree with.

[Lord Beerus]

Hell yeah. The universe is fucking huge. There is bound to be someone stronger than Majin Boo in it.

I don't buy it. Freeza was able to control pretty much the entire universe and he's much weaker than Boo. You got to remember that Boo is insanely strong for a non-god, at least by u7 standards. Hes even stronger than the Supreme Kai which should be stronger than any mortal. Just because the universe is huge doesn't mean there is infinite possibilities. They might be able to bullshit a character stronger in Universe 7 and I'd accept it but acting like it's a certainty that it exists isnt something I agree with.

Freeza controlled a small portion of one galaxy, if even that. The best we know about Freeza is that he controlled at least 400 planets. That's really small potatoes when you consider the fact that one galaxy has billions of planets. He was a big fish in small pond. If there on thing that new material, especially Battle Of Gods, has taught us, it's that there is always someone stronger out there. Beerus and Whis for all we know are just the tip of the iceberg.