Will Frost turn over a new leaf?

Freeza9000 · Post by **Freeza9000** » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:58 am

In the recent trailer of the upcoming Universal Survival arc, Frost, Cabba, and other new characters from different universes were introduced. Considering the fact that Frost's true colors has been revealed to the vast majority of the public in Universe 6 but is now given the opportunity to fight alongside people like Cabba whom he deceived, do you consider the possibility that Frost will receive some well needed character development and repent on his past sins? Or do you think that Frost is gonna make a fool out of everyone again and cheat his way to victory?

Ki Breaker · Post by **Ki Breaker** » Sat Feb 11, 2017 3:03 am

I hope that dosen't happen, he gets golden frost and uni 6 is wiped along with the Saiyans as frost lost, he would indirectly be the reason for killing every Saiyan there and people who were after him.. thus making the fates similar to our version..
Make it happen

DragonBallFoodie · Post by **DragonBallFoodie** » Sat Feb 11, 2017 4:49 am

No, these are parallel universes where things stay the same but with different variations. Thus, Frost will be the same as Frieza and Goku will still be Goku (except when his body is stolen).

FoolsGil · Post by **FoolsGil** » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:57 am

He's on U6's side, that's beyond good and evil.

MisteryOne · Post by **MisteryOne** » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:01 am

Frost was one of the most wasted opportunities of Super. I don't see him changing now, he's just useful to team 6 and that's it.

DragonBallFoodie wrote:No, these are parallel universes where things stay the same but with different variations. Thus, Frost will be the same as Frieza and Goku will still be Goku (except when his body is stolen).

?

There isn't Goku counterpart in U6 as far as we know.

DragonBallFoodie · Post by **DragonBallFoodie** » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:36 am

MisteryOne wrote:Frost was one of the most wasted opportunities of Super. I don't see him changing now, he's just useful to team 6 and that's it.
DragonBallFoodie wrote:No, these are parallel universes where things stay the same but with different variations. Thus, Frost will be the same as Frieza and Goku will still be Goku (except when his body is stolen).
?

Remember the hype over Goku Black? Everyone thought he was Goku gone evil, when in fact it was Goku's body taken over by an evil Kai.

DB is not a series that looks too far ahead, remember. Any parallel characters will fundamentally be the same. Frost is Frieza, and Goku is Goku. The character templates don't look like they'll vary. All we really should expect are some new characters with awesome new fighting abilities.

MisteryOne · Post by **MisteryOne** » Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:43 am

DragonBallFoodie wrote:
MisteryOne wrote:Frost was one of the most wasted opportunities of Super. I don't see him changing now, he's just useful to team 6 and that's it.
DragonBallFoodie wrote:No, these are parallel universes where things stay the same but with different variations. Thus, Frost will be the same as Frieza and Goku will still be Goku (except when his body is stolen).
?
Remember the hype over Goku Black? Everyone thought he was Goku gone evil, when in fact it was Goku's body taken over by an evil Kai

Oh, I see. I never trough Black was Goku trough. It would have been extremely stupid and the worst possible decision. And it was clear since episode 50, three episodes from the start of the arc, that someone stole Goku's body. People just like to make theories or headcanons.

Yeah, Frost is likely to be just Frieza. If Toriyama really wanted to do something with him, he would have done it in Champa arc. If anything maybe he has Golden form now.

DBZ Macky · Post by **DBZ Macky** » Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:53 am

I can definitely see him working more as a "Raditz-era Piccolo type" of character than Freeza 2.0 for this new arc. But it's really too early to judge anything just going off the new opening and what little we've seen of him so far. Somehow, I still think he can change, but maybe that's just because I liked his "character" and design. Freeza on the other hand has pretty much been proven to be irredeemable at this point.

IKevinX · Post by **IKevinX** » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:49 pm

I doubt they will further develop him. Maybe something along the lines of why he has returned when he was known for cheating and Champa wasn't fond of him at all after that.

He must have something else going for him for them to get him back. Perhaps the rules will be more aggressive, giving him a venomous advantage

Lord Frieza · Post by **Lord Frieza** » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:08 pm

FoolsGil wrote:He's on U6's side, that's beyond good and evil.

This is that kind of fight now isn't it. Good and Bad dont matter when your all going to die.

ChronoTwigger · Post by **ChronoTwigger** » Sat Feb 11, 2017 3:53 pm

For sure he doesn't use poison.
Bergamo do that, and his trick was already found. So, i dunno. They have to find something REALLY interesting this time or you get a washed down Frieza clone.
I don't think it will be a chara development, anyway, just some new tech. Or nothing, he got busted in another fight, a kinda U6 Yamcha with tail.

MisteryOne · Post by **MisteryOne** » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:07 pm

Lord Frieza wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:He's on U6's side, that's beyond good and evil.
This is that kind of fight now isn't it. Good and Bad dont matter when your all going to die.

Yeah, it is. And that's what can make this arc amazing if they do it well (I'm not holding my breath trough). It would be interesting to see some type of universes alliance. It would have been cool to see some villain from U7 being forced to colaborate as well, but DB has the bad habit of killing every villain. The closer we can have to that now is Cabba having to cooperate with Frost again despite knowing his true nature.

Lord Frieza · Post by **Lord Frieza** » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:23 pm

MisteryOne wrote:
Lord Frieza wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:He's on U6's side, that's beyond good and evil.
This is that kind of fight now isn't it. Good and Bad dont matter when your all going to die.
Yeah, it is. And that's what can make this arc amazing if they do it well (I'm not holding my breath trough). It would be interesting to see some type of universes alliance. It would have been cool to see some villain from U7 being forced to colaborate as well, but DB has the bad habit of killing every villain. The closer we can have to that now is Cabba having to cooperate with Frost again despite knowing his true nature.

We can also see that the other universes are not holding back either. From the sounds of it the Dangerous Trio are a nasty bunch and one of them is a poison specialist. Hell the U6 saiyans have actually allowed something as dangerous as Legendary Super Saiyan to be used. Everyone besides Goku is taking this this very seriously and are more then willing to let killers and monsters fight if it means saving their universe.

ChronoTwigger · Post by **ChronoTwigger** » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:30 pm

MisteryOne wrote:
Lord Frieza wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:He's on U6's side, that's beyond good and evil.
This is that kind of fight now isn't it. Good and Bad dont matter when your all going to die.
Yeah, it is. And that's what can make this arc amazing if they do it well (I'm not holding my breath trough). It would be interesting to see some type of universes alliance. It would have been cool to see some villain from U7 being forced to colaborate as well, but DB has the bad habit of killing every villain. The closer we can have to that now is Cabba having to cooperate with Frost again despite knowing his true nature.

MisteryOne · Post by **MisteryOne** » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:55 pm

ChronoTwigger wrote:
MisteryOne wrote:
Lord Frieza wrote:
This is that kind of fight now isn't it. Good and Bad dont matter when your all going to die.
Yeah, it is. And that's what can make this arc amazing if they do it well (I'm not holding my breath trough). It would be interesting to see some type of universes alliance. It would have been cool to see some villain from U7 being forced to colaborate as well, but DB has the bad habit of killing every villain. The closer we can have to that now is Cabba having to cooperate with Frost again despite knowing his true nature.

Eh...What's your point? Piccolo, the androids and Vegeta stopped being villains literally years ago. That's not what I'm speaking about.

ChronoTwigger · Post by **ChronoTwigger** » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:17 pm

MisteryOne wrote: Eh...What's your point? Piccolo, the androids and Vegeta stopped being villains literally years ago. That's not what I'm speaking about.

All of them collaborated against a bigger evil, for a while, as enemies... before becoming stable allies. So this happened a lotta times in U7, indeed.

dragonballgeek · Post by **dragonballgeek** » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:21 pm

MisteryOne wrote:
ChronoTwigger wrote:
MisteryOne wrote: Yeah, it is. And that's what can make this arc amazing if they do it well (I'm not holding my breath trough). It would be interesting to see some type of universes alliance. It would have been cool to see some villain from U7 being forced to colaborate as well, but DB has the bad habit of killing every villain. The closer we can have to that now is Cabba having to cooperate with Frost again despite knowing his true nature.

Eh...What's your point? Piccolo, the androids and Vegeta stopped being villains literally years ago. That's not what I'm speaking about.

But it doesn't change the fact that he proved you wrong.

Next time don't make such a generic statement. Be more specific so you don't get burnedddd

Lord Beerus · Post by **Lord Beerus** » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:29 pm

I hope so. They could do something unique with the character given his method of basically war profiteering.

ChronoTwigger · Post by **ChronoTwigger** » Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:53 pm

dragonballgeek wrote:
MisteryOne wrote:
ChronoTwigger wrote:

But it doesn't change the fact that he proved you wrong.

Next time don't make such a generic statement. Be more specific so you don't get burnedddd

No, he changed everything, proved me right and you unable to sustain a discussion.
Next time I'll do even more generic statements, and anyway I'll do any kind of statements I wish. Kiddo.
Stay on topic and don't do PERSONAL replies.

MisteryOne · Post by **MisteryOne** » Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:18 pm

dragonballgeek wrote:
MisteryOne wrote:
ChronoTwigger wrote:

Eh...What's your point? Piccolo, the androids and Vegeta stopped being villains literally years ago. That's not what I'm speaking about.
But it doesn't change the fact that he proved you wrong.

Next time don't make such a generic statement. Be more specific so you don't get burnedddd

Eh..? What's going on here? How on hell did he proved me wrong? How is it a generic statment? Did you even read the full coment or you just can't understand the context there? You know, the killing part. Its obvious I'm talking about villains being villains right now, which is impossible because DB has the bad habit of killing them so it's impossible to have them stay long as villains. Its called «recurring villain». Do you get it or your brain hurts?

I said it would be cool if villains were forced to colaborate, and they are not villains at all, bit he/she misunderstood it. Are you really dumb enough to think a confusion between two persons, one of them with English not being his native language at all, is one of them proving wrong to the other? If so please dont comment it, dont do this to yourself, specially if its some type of failed trolling atrempt or something.

Anyway I don't see how that was a personal comment, first time I ever speak with this user IIRC.

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