Why isn't the 18 universe thing in the manga?
Why isn't the 18 universe thing in the manga?
I feel thats important information but its not in the manga.
The reason i say this is because it kind of screws up the twin universe thing.
So what gives?
The reason i say this is because it kind of screws up the twin universe thing.
So what gives?
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Re: Why isn't the 18 universe thing in the manga?
It is in the manga. In chapter 14 Whis mentions that there used to be 18 universes.
Re: Why isn't the 18 universe thing in the manga?
Excuse me, but how would that "screw up" the "twin universes" thing? It has never been stated, but it's quite likely that originally each universe had TWO twin universes instead of ONE...Totamo wrote: The reason i say this is because it kind of screws up the twin universe thing.
Do you mean the universes numbering scheme, maybe?
I'm not so good at math, maybe there is some combination which allows to have 6 series of 3 numbers which give the same result, without re-using any number?
Re: Why isn't the 18 universe thing in the manga?
I'm not understanding why 18 universes screws up anything.Gig wrote:Excuse me, but how would that "screw up" the "twin universes" thing? It has never been stated, but it's quite likely that originally each universe had TWO twin universes instead of ONE...Totamo wrote: The reason i say this is because it kind of screws up the twin universe thing.
Do you mean the universes numbering scheme, maybe?
I'm not so good at math, maybe there is some combination which allows to have 6 series of 3 numbers which give the same result, without re-using any number?
9 sets of 2.
Re: Why isn't the 18 universe thing in the manga?
I'm about 96 % sure there's not, but I'll try to look into it. It's much easier for there to have been 9 twin universes, though. 1 + 18, 2 + 17... You get the idea. And after the six universes' destruction, the remaining ones were renamed.Gig wrote:Excuse me, but how would that "screw up" the "twin universes" thing? It has never been stated, but it's quite likely that originally each universe had TWO twin universes instead of ONE...Totamo wrote: The reason i say this is because it kind of screws up the twin universe thing.
Do you mean the universes numbering scheme, maybe?
I'm not so good at math, maybe there is some combination which allows to have 6 series of 3 numbers which give the same result, without re-using any number?
Edit: I don't know how rigid this is, but:
The total sum of all 18 universes, in other words the 18th triangle number, is 171. This sum would have to be evenly distributed across six triplet universes (they all add up to the same number), which means that we get 171/6. The answer has to be an integer, because there's no way to add a finite amount of integers together and get something other than an integer. The answer isn't an integer, though; it's 28.5. Therefore, no proper numbering system for six triplet universes exists.
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Re: Why isn't the 18 universe thing in the manga?
Wow! Thank you!Alruneia wrote: The total sum of all 18 universes, in other words the 18th triangle number, is 171. This sum would have to be evenly distributed across six triplet universes (they all add up to the same number), which means that we get 171/6. The answer has to be an integer, because there's no way to add a finite amount of integers together and get something other than an integer. The answer isn't an integer, though; it's 28.5. Therefore, no proper numbering system for six triplet universes exists.
So, 9 groups of 2 universes seems to be the only option remaining... unless one screws up the numbering schemes...
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Re: Why isn't the 18 universe thing in the manga?
The twins for Universe's 1-12 add up to 13 (ie. 1+12, 2+11, 3+10, ect.) and the twins for universe 13-18 add up to 31 (ie. 13+18, 14+17, 15+16)Gig wrote:Wow! Thank you!Alruneia wrote: The total sum of all 18 universes, in other words the 18th triangle number, is 171. This sum would have to be evenly distributed across six triplet universes (they all add up to the same number), which means that we get 171/6. The answer has to be an integer, because there's no way to add a finite amount of integers together and get something other than an integer. The answer isn't an integer, though; it's 28.5. Therefore, no proper numbering system for six triplet universes exists.
So, 9 groups of 2 universes seems to be the only option remaining... unless one screws up the numbering schemes...
Something like that could work
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Re: Why isn't the 18 universe thing in the manga?
Looking at how Zeno and angels are obsessed by schemes and order, and don't give a f..., maybe they spared 12 universe and name that ways just for the sole reason of having that simmetry XD.
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Re: Why isn't the 18 universe thing in the manga?
I can think about "ordered" groups of 3 universes as 1-7-13, 2-8-14, 3-9-15, 4-10-16, 5-11-17, 6-12-18.
Or just 1-2-3, 4-5-6, 7-8-9, 10-11-12, 13-14-15, 16-17-18.
If you don't care about the sums, of course!
Or just 1-2-3, 4-5-6, 7-8-9, 10-11-12, 13-14-15, 16-17-18.
If you don't care about the sums, of course!
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Re: Why isn't the 18 universe thing in the manga?
How would the twin universe system work here?Gig wrote:I can think about "ordered" groups of 3 universes as 1-7-13, 2-8-14, 3-9-15, 4-10-16, 5-11-17, 6-12-18.
Or just 1-2-3, 4-5-6, 7-8-9, 10-11-12, 13-14-15, 16-17-18.
If you don't care about the sums, of course!
Re: Why isn't the 18 universe thing in the manga?
Excuse me, what do you mean?TheUltimateNinja wrote:How would the twin universe system work here?Gig wrote:I can think about "ordered" groups of 3 universes as 1-7-13, 2-8-14, 3-9-15, 4-10-16, 5-11-17, 6-12-18.
Or just 1-2-3, 4-5-6, 7-8-9, 10-11-12, 13-14-15, 16-17-18.
If you don't care about the sums, of course!
For how I see it, two (or three) universes are "twin" when they are very similar (e.g. both u6 and u7 have saiyans and Frieza's race)... and in theory they could still be twins even if their "names" ("numbers") would have been random. In other words the fact they used the trick "A+B=13 so they are twins" is handy, but wasn't strictly necessary... Champa's and Beerus' universes may have been twins even if they were named "Universe lol" and "Universe qwerty"...
So, IMHO, also other numbering schemes which would do not require the sums to be the same, would not prevent the "twin universes" idea.
Re: Why isn't the 18 universe thing in the manga?
If you were simply asking about the relationshinp of those numbers, well...TheUltimateNinja wrote:How would the twin universe system work here?Gig wrote:I can think about "ordered" groups of 3 universes as 1-7-13, 2-8-14, 3-9-15, 4-10-16, 5-11-17, 6-12-18.
Or just 1-2-3, 4-5-6, 7-8-9, 10-11-12, 13-14-15, 16-17-18.
If you don't care about the sums, of course!
In the first example you take your universe number and add (or remove) 6 or 12 to find out its two counterparts. (Examples: 7-6=1, 7+6=13; 4+6=10, 4+12=16)
In the second example, they are very simply grouped, to find out your two counterparts you look at the list.





