Most Streched Out Moment?

DaemonCorps · Post by **DaemonCorps** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:32 am

Forget the fighting element; the DB series is better defined with its long, stretched out moments of talking and staring at each other. What would you consider to be one of the longest, most stretched out moments in the anime that seemed like a split second in the manga, or something that was stretched out in the canon in general?

Since the last thing of DBZ I saw on TV was the Vegeta Saga, I would have to say the the longest moment for me would be when Goku was talking Krillin out of killing Vegeta-- while those two are having their little discussion of right and wrong, you can see Vegeta practically writhing on the ground, trying to reach his space pod that's frikkin' right in front of him!

Sebastian (SB) · Post by **Sebastian (SB)** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:39 am

How about the Freeza Saga, more specifically, The Freeza vs. Son Goku Fight. Even though, the fight was fairly long in both the manga & anime. There were time where there would be so much dialogue & staring between the fights.

DaemonCorps · Post by **DaemonCorps** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:43 am

Sebastian (SB) wrote:How about the Freeza Saga, more specifically, The Freeza vs. Son Goku Fight. Even though, the fight was fairly long in both the manga & anime. There were time where there would be so much dialogue & staring between the fights.

Heh, let's not forget to include the flashbacks! IE: I'm about to defeat you!! Which reminds me of an extremely long flashback of something completely irrelevent to this fight, but bear with me...

Majin Cell · Post by **Majin Cell** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:08 am

Well i would have to pick the "5 minutes untill Namek explodes" attack by Freeza. What was suppose to be 5 minutes was stretched out to 10 episodes. The entire time i was watching those episodes i couldn't help but laugh because entire hours were passing by everyones eyes and they didn't even seem to notice.

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:31 am

Maybe so, but I'd rather have stretched out moments over tons of annoying filler arcs like some later anime series have.

Domon · Post by **Domon** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:35 am

I'd also have to go with the whole "five minutes" thing. Even in the manga, it's impossibily streached out. Though(and I'm not sure a lot of people understand this) the point was most likely to make fun of the series' tendency to streach and pad things out in general.

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 2:28 am

The most stretched out moment for me, is when Piccolo was fighting Coola's henchman Sauzer. His arms stretch out so long, it's like they were made of silly putty, and yet could still cut trees in half! That was really stretched out...

Leotaku · Post by **Leotaku** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:48 am

This reminds me of a joke I once heard.

How many DBZ characters does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
One. But it takes 30 episodes.

Ah...I wish I had thought of that.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:49 am

Heh, heh.

On my senior class trip recently, a couple friends of mine were walking around Disneyworld, when one of my friends, who like anime but dislikes Dbz (for the stretched-out absurdity, no less), got a little tired...

Her: "Sean, I'm tired. Carry me, you're big and strong."
Me: "I could be, but I'd have to waste 30 minutes powering up."
Her: (Starts laughing like a hyena on crack)

Heh.

Anyway, the prize for me would have to go to Vegeta's infamous, extraneous, and ultimately useless "powering up" against Freeza. Y' know, the one that took at least an entire episode?

But I sat there and watched it anyway.

Chaos Saiyajin · Post by **Chaos Saiyajin** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:37 pm

I'd have to say the most stretched out moment was the entire Goku vs. Freeza battle. My gosh! The staring matches, five minute power-ups, a billion years of waiting for the two to actually defeat each other...>.<

Akira · Post by **Akira** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:05 pm

The Freeza battle was stretched out, but aside from the flashbacks, it was fairly well paced. The 5 minute thing is irrelevant to the argument though.

Stretched out to the point of annoyance is Super Trunks vs. Perfect Cell. That fight has flashback after flashback, and continual powerup sequences one on top of another, and one episode that is almost entirely nothing but a staring contest. That defines a stretched out bit more than any other.

Mayuri Furiza Kurotsuchi · Post by **Mayuri Furiza Kurotsuchi** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:22 pm

Definitely the infamous 5 minutes. More like 3 hours.

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:02 pm

The Anime - Since all the good ones are taken, I'll say Kanzentai Cell going up to full power against Gohan, when compared to the Manga.

The Manga - None. I felt it was always paced correctly. And those who think the 5 minutes was over-stretched, plz go read again. Heh heh...

Oh, and all Broli powering up sequences are too long. Infinitely.

Eclipse · Post by **Eclipse** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:49 pm

When Gohan was fighting Cell, he thinks about a flashback.

This flashback takes about 7 minutes long. It amazed me that Gohan could talk for that long without Cell doing anything. Anything at all. And yet, in the manga, it's a two panel speech.

Sebastian (SB) · Post by **Sebastian (SB)** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:09 pm

Eclipse wrote:When Gohan was fighting Cell, he thinks about a flashback.

This flashback takes about 7 minutes long. It amazed me that Gohan could talk for that long without Cell doing anything. Anything at all. And yet, in the manga, it's a two panel speech.

I actually liked that flashback episode, but yeah how Cell waits that long sure is a mystery.

DaemonCorps · Post by **DaemonCorps** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:44 pm

Duo wrote:The Manga - None. I felt it was always paced correctly. And those who think the 5 minutes was over-stretched, plz go read again. Heh heh...

Heh, yeah. It really just depends on how long you "imagine" the punches and dodges per panel. If you just remember that the fight is around 5 minutes and their punches are superhumanly fast then, yeah, you could pull off that whole match in 5 minutes (in the manga, at least)

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...And if you take in those times when stuff on Earth is going on, I consider those times to be happening at the same time as the fight.

Duo wrote:Oh, and all Broli powering up sequences are too long. Infinitely.

Yep. Legendary Super Saiyan, he's not.

Mr. Announcer · Post by **Mr. Announcer** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:35 pm

Maybe it was just me, but that whole segment where Gohan was having his energy drained by Babidi's henchmen seemed to take like forever.... I think they seriously just spent the whole episode standing there staring at Gohan in intense pain.

But yeah, nothing beats the five minute Freeza fight. It's bothersome enough that their entire fight took nearly 20 episodes but that 5 minute thing was really pushing it. After a while I couldn't even take it seriously anymore, I just started playing dramatic spanish ballads in the background and seeing how well they fit.

Enraged_Goomba · Post by **Enraged_Goomba** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:15 pm

I would have to say.... The one when Goku and Yajirobe went out to search for the Super Holy Water. In the manga Korin just gave it to him(After the warnings of course.).

Domon · Post by **Domon** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:56 pm

I'm surprised (well, maybe not) that there are those that actually thinks the manga version of "five minutes" is possible. Even if one accepts that the characters are so fast that the entire fight lasted only seconds(and we never see anything else to indicate that fights in this saga or later on lasts "only seconds"), that doesn't account for all the dialogue and other stuffs going on during that time on Earth, Kaio's planet and on Namek. All of which are impossible to occur in less than five minutes(keep in mind that the fight lasted less than that time, since Goku looked around for a ship and all that).

As I've said before, I think we're just meant to "accept" it as true while knowing it's impossible.

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:42 am

Domon wrote:I'm surprised (well, maybe not) that there are those that actually thinks the manga version of "five minutes" is possible. Even if one accepts that the characters are so fast that the entire fight lasted only seconds(and we never see anything else to indicate that fights in this saga or later on lasts "only seconds"), that doesn't account for all the dialogue and other stuffs going on during that time on Earth, Kaio's planet and on Namek. All of which are impossible to occur in less than five minutes(keep in mind that the fight lasted less than that time, since Goku looked around for a ship and all that).

As I've said before, I think we're just meant to "accept" it as true while knowing it's impossible.

Well, no. In the Manga Freeza points out the the "planet is holding out longer than expectect, but only has a couple minutes left!" soon before it all ends. If you look at only the time Goku and Freeza are fighting/talking and consider everything else to be happening in sync, then it makes pretty good sense, without even pretending all their attacks shatter light speed and weird stuff.

I've read the volume countless times to make sense of it, and it really does not stretch if you look at it as a big picture.