Could Cell help do the SSG ritual

[Krillin1994]

So assuming he became pure of heart, could cell take part in the ritual for making a SSG or even become one himself.

Pan is just a bundle of cells at the time of the ritual, so with Cell possessing Saiyan DNA he should be able to right?

I mean he was Saiyan enough to get a Zenkai.

[GigaDrill]

I can only imagine fanfiction getting him in that kind of scenario.
Cell's sole moment of screentime was as an illusion ghost during that episode with Krillin and Goku

But in theory, probably, if he's channeling the Goku or Vegeta ki in him

[nickzambuto]

Gods are more mystical than science based. Technically Cell has saiyan DNA, but he's not a saiyan. This loophole probably wouldn't work due to the way magic is; the ritual would recognize Cell as not being a saiyan.

[cheddarsword]

Gods are more mystical than science based. Technically Cell has saiyan DNA, but he's not a saiyan. This loophole probably wouldn't work due to the way magic is; the ritual would recognize Cell as not being a saiyan.

Videl is not a saiyan either. However, as she was pregnant with a 1/4 saiyan baby, she did have saiyan blood.

And before you say anything, I can not imagine an unborn child knowing how to focus ki.

However, there is the question of the purity of heart. I do not believe Cell to be pure.

However, if he were pure, I could see the ritual working with him as a ki donor.

If he were to attempt to take on the Super Saiyan God form himself however... I do not think it would be the same but I do think he would attain a new, god like form.

[floofychan333]

I think he could partake in it theoretically, despite not being able to go SSJ or being pregnant with a Saiyajin. This scenario, however theoretically possible, is highly improbable considering Cell's pure evil and would have to undergo a Piccolo-style transformation to attain pure-heartedness.

[cheddarsword]

I think he could partake in it theoretically, despite not being able to go SSJ or being pregnant with a Saiyajin. This scenario, however theoretically possible, is highly improbable considering Cell's pure evil and would have to undergo a Piccolo-style transformation to attain pure-heartedness.

Though he can not technically take on the super saiyan forms, his auras are similar at higher power levels, matching the super saiyan 2 aura, lightning and all after receiving a zenkai boost.

[nickzambuto]

Gods are more mystical than science based. Technically Cell has saiyan DNA, but he's not a saiyan. This loophole probably wouldn't work due to the way magic is; the ritual would recognize Cell as not being a saiyan.

Videl is not a saiyan either. However, as she was pregnant with a 1/4 saiyan baby, she did have saiyan blood.

And before you say anything, I can not imagine an unborn child knowing how to focus ki.

However, there is the question of the purity of heart. I do not believe Cell to be pure.

However, if he were pure, I could see the ritual working with him as a ki donor.

If he were to attempt to take on the Super Saiyan God form himself however... I do not think it would be the same but I do think he would attain a new, god like form.

Blame it on magic. Pan is a saiyan, it doesn't matter that she wasn't even born yet. But Cell is not a saiyan.

[GigaDrill]

Gods are more mystical than science based. Technically Cell has saiyan DNA, but he's not a saiyan. This loophole probably wouldn't work due to the way magic is; the ritual would recognize Cell as not being a saiyan.

Videl is not a saiyan either. However, as she was pregnant with a 1/4 saiyan baby, she did have saiyan blood.

And before you say anything, I can not imagine an unborn child knowing how to focus ki.

However, there is the question of the purity of heart. I do not believe Cell to be pure.

However, if he were pure, I could see the ritual working with him as a ki donor.

If he were to attempt to take on the Super Saiyan God form himself however... I do not think it would be the same but I do think he would attain a new, god like form.

Blame it on magic. Pan is a saiyan, it doesn't matter that she wasn't even born yet. But Cell is not a saiyan.

Cell did trick the ki-sensing cast when he first powered up into them believing that he was Vegeta or Goku

[cheddarsword]

Videl is not a saiyan either. However, as she was pregnant with a 1/4 saiyan baby, she did have saiyan blood.

And before you say anything, I can not imagine an unborn child knowing how to focus ki.

However, there is the question of the purity of heart. I do not believe Cell to be pure.

However, if he were pure, I could see the ritual working with him as a ki donor.

If he were to attempt to take on the Super Saiyan God form himself however... I do not think it would be the same but I do think he would attain a new, god like form.

Blame it on magic. Pan is a saiyan, it doesn't matter that she wasn't even born yet. But Cell is not a saiyan.

Cell did trick the ki-sensing cast when he first powered up into them believing that he was Vegeta or Goku

"Is that me? Is that me stronger than me? I'LL F***ING KILL ME!" Vegeta ~ Dragon Ball Z Abridged

Exactly. So if a woman carrying a 1/4 saiyan baby can trigger the god form and her husband who happens to only be 1/2 saiyan, then who is to say that someone who contains enough saiyan DNA to be recognized as a saiyan by other saiyans, can not? Cell is roughly as much saiyan as Pan and she only triggered the transformation by proxy.

Has the Dragon Ball fandom really begun comparing similarities between Cell, Videl and Pan? Now things are getting interesting!

Also, how did magic get involved in this? I am guessing it is in reference to the SSG ritual? If so, I can understand that. However, it seems more like something to do with saiyan anatomy. "Pure hearted saiyans" could simply mean that if your heart is pure, then your ki is positively charged which triggers the transformation.

However, there needing to be that specific number of 5 still stands out. It's not a matter of how much ki is being gathered but instead, how many people are giving it.

So then... if 5 evil hearted saiyans performed the same ritual... could it result in Super Saiyan Devil/Demon?

[Tectorman]

So then... if 5 evil hearted saiyans performed the same ritual... could it result in Super Saiyan Devil/Demon?

I've always wondered if the whole "pure-hearted" thing was really a magical requirement of the ritual or merely a practical requirement.

I.e., say it were established that the ritual didn't require its participants to be pure of heart. How often would six evil Saiyans really go through with it?

"Alright, all six of us hate each other and would kill the rest at the drop of a hat, but what say the five of you give me your energy and make me obscenely stronger than all imagining? I promise (wink, wink) not to kill the five of you in a flash immediately afterwards. You can trust me, right?"

[TheUltimateNinja]

So then... if 5 evil hearted saiyans performed the same ritual... could it result in Super Saiyan Devil/Demon?

I've always wondered if the whole "pure-hearted" thing was really a magical requirement of the ritual or merely a practical requirement.

I.e., say it were established that the ritual didn't require its participants to be pure of heart. How often would six evil Saiyans really go through with it?

"Alright, all six of us hate each other and would kill the rest at the drop of a hat, but what say the five of you give me your energy and make me obscenely stronger than all imagining? I promise (wink, wink) not to kill the five of you in a flash immediately afterwards. You can trust me, right?"

Saiyans do seem to have some camaraderie, though. At least among their squadmates.

[Gorou]

According to the anime's logic for him would more convenient made train for a few months.

[Ki Breaker]

He has enough Saiyan in him to do it..
if he becomes pure of heart..
Which can be accomplished by leaving him with ultimate gohan in the rosat..
Or have him "kami piccolo split" and kill the cellcolo, keep the kamill

[Gorou]

Logic Question: What he needs the ritual? By now everyone, in the anime, grow to hundreds and thousands of times within a few months simply by training, and Cell is a chimera with the cells of ALL partecipants of the universal tournament (except Boo) + Freeza.

Surely, if Genome, in heroes, can become God, he can do that too, but now that stage is passed.

[cheddarsword]

Logic Question: What he needs the ritual? By now everyone, in the anime, grow to hundreds and thousands of times within a few months simply by training, and Cell is a chimera with the cells of ALL partecipants of the universal tournament (except Boo) + Freeza.

Surely, if Genome, in heroes, can become God, he can do that too, but now that stage is passed.

I don't know how Vegeta obtained god form but from the way that I look at it, the ritual is kind of a gate that must be opened before you can access god or god like forms. I know he took God form in the manga but I don't think it's stated weather or not he had gone through the ritual before hand. I could see everyone willing to assist him for sure though.

However, the original question wasn't if Cell could obtain god form himself, merely if he could assist in the ritual helping someone else obtain the form. And less people seem to disagree with that than I expected.

However, if the question WERE if he could obtain the god form, then my personal position is "maybe". I don't think it would be the same for him, since the super saiyan forms don't work the same way (he doesn't really gain anything because he doesn't really change forms but the auras are there and the power is similar).

No, I think if Cell managed to get a pure heart and convince everyone to perform the ritual, I firmly believe it would result in something at least slightly different. Who knows? maybe his skin would change from green to red? I suppose he would at least get godly ki though.

Also, I don't believe Heroes is considered canonical, so it only really applies to characters that are also non canonical, like Broly and even that's iffy.

[Gorou]

I don't know how Vegeta obtained god form but from the way that I look at it, the ritual is kind of a gate that must be opened before you can access god or god like forms. I know he took God form in the manga but I don't think it's stated weather or not he had gone through the ritual before hand. I could see everyone willing to assist him for sure though.

It's not important. Trunks, Freeza, Krilin, Piccolo ( very soon) and now even Android 17, have grown thousands of times in power, often in a very short time, without any ritual, only through the simple training. What I say is that Cell would not need to any ritual for approach those levels.

No, I think if Cell managed to get a pure heart and convince everyone to perform the ritual, I firmly believe it would result in something at least slightly different. Who knows? maybe his skin would change from green to red? I suppose he would at least get godly ki though.

Something like that