How come people want to rush the arc now?

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How come people want to rush the arc now?

Post by ChaosLordBrandon » Wed May 10, 2017 10:32 am

I love all these recruitment episodes and after seeing comments like the entire arc is boring.

What with this? Did people not ask them to take their time with this? this nothing compared to a lot other anime's pacing and z is was of them. The Freeza saga started on episode 44 and Goku didn't transform into a SSJ until episode 95.

Vegeta and Nappa didn't even arrive on earth until episode 22 and I have never see anybody complain about the saiyan's saga pacing. The Buu saga started on episode 200, aka the first Gohan goes to school episode and Buu himself didn't even appear until episode 232. The Majin Vegeta thing didn't even happen until episode 228.

I saw people say all super arcs are way to fast and lack proper build up and now that they are slowly building up a arc and now people don't like it?

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Re: How come people want to rush the arc now?

Post by GreatSaiyaJeff » Wed May 10, 2017 10:35 am

With the exception of the Poacher episode, all the episodes have been good in each their own way. Getting them ready to make their return in the ring.
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Re: How come people want to rush the arc now?

Post by Super_Divine_Genki » Wed May 10, 2017 10:42 am

I'll just snip my reply from another thread:
Call me simple, but I've been liking these recruitment episodes. I like this pacing, and I'm glad that #17 got TWO episodes centered around him. I also felt that the Tenshinhan recruitment scenario could've been extended into a two-parter, but mainly to highlight the Son Goku/Ten/Chaozu friendship. It ended up being a big missed opportunity though, imo.

Why the rush getting into the ToP from some people? The only thing kinda playing against the recruiting thing is the super-ridiculous time-frame that had been given to recruit 10 members from each Uni (really? 48 hours to recruit and prepare for something of this scale?). If you think about it, the recruiting stuff isn't doing so bad with the time. It's just that we have to wait a week to see a new 20-minute episode, so this whole thing may feel like it's unnecessarily getting drug out. I don't know -- I guess that I've just enjoyed the downtime episodes in Super rather than PLOT, FIGHT, PLOT, FIGHT. Character interactions and relationship dynamics establish why we should care about the fate of these characters in this tournament to begin with. :wink:

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Re: How come people want to rush the arc now?

Post by ChaosLordBrandon » Wed May 10, 2017 10:49 am

The thing I don't get is how come people complained about Champa and Goku Black being way to fast, if they think this current arc pacing is bad?

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Re: How come people want to rush the arc now?

Post by Ki Breaker » Wed May 10, 2017 10:52 am

People want to rush it because most have little to no patience or they find the episodes before tournament uninteresting..

The arc has the best Pacing I can hope for and they should maintain this sense for future arcs
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Re: How come people want to rush the arc now?

Post by Super_Divine_Genki » Wed May 10, 2017 11:05 am

ChaosLordBrandon wrote:The thing I don't get is how come people complained about Champa and Goku Black being way to fast, if they think this current arc pacing is bad?
I agree. The pacing of the Zamasu arc felt almost like the pacing of the old Toei Z films. The ending was way too abrupt, and heavy plot-points were wrapped up quickly by using mentions or quick flashbacks. The Zamasu arc could've easily been spread out over 10 more episodes, imo. Resources permitting.

This current arcs' pacing is a welcome change.
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Re: How come people want to rush the arc now?

Post by emperior » Wed May 10, 2017 11:06 am

I'm liking the pacing a lot. We lacked proper build-up on Super and all these recruitment episodes, which I like, are making me more hyped for the tournament. I wouldn't be as hyped if the main thing started after a few episodes.

And this fanbase always complains no matter what.
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Re: How come people want to rush the arc now?

Post by Xeogran » Wed May 10, 2017 11:35 am

Simple: The ones who want to rush through the recrutation, have read the spoilers.

People are already aware of what happens next, and these days the human mentality wants us to constantly learn more, not stay still. [spoiler]So spending screentime on Buu, who we know that most likely won't be participating, is a "waste".[/spoiler]

I am fully enjoying these episodes myself, maybe bar 89, but it had to be dealt with sooner than later. I see where people are coming from though, and understand that's just how it is in the current era.

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Re: How come people want to rush the arc now?

Post by Forte224 » Wed May 10, 2017 11:48 am

I've enjoyed everything except 89 which was just ok. It just seems like everyone is complaining because people don't usually post to say "I like this", they post to say "I don't like this". I'm hyped for the arc. I like the pacing but I'm itching for the tournament to just start already in an "I can't wait" kind of way instead of a "This is getting old" kind of way

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Re: How come people want to rush the arc now?

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed May 10, 2017 11:49 am

emperior wrote:I'm liking the pacing a lot. We lacked proper build-up on Super and all these recruitment episodes, which I like, are making me more hyped for the tournament. I wouldn't be as hyped if the main thing started after a few episodes.

And this fanbase always complains no matter what.
We are also getting some build up for other universes too, we got a bit of Toppo's Universe, a bit of Cabba's now next episode a bit of U10's, then what seems a massive exposition dump on other universes in #91. Instead of the like U6 arc where the fighters from U6 were just tossed in front of us at the tournament, we at least now will know who some of the characters are, what their background is etc.

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Re: How come people want to rush the arc now?

Post by GodKaio-Ken » Wed May 10, 2017 11:52 am

Its not that I want it to rush personally. Ints a mixture of these things:

1) I'm excited for the tournament fights.
2) We are seeing a bit more than needed. I mean does everyone have to say no and be persuaded? I know not everyone has but its getting redundant.
3) I'm ready to see what other universe bring to the table
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Re: How come people want to rush the arc now?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed May 10, 2017 11:54 am

People aren't used to having to wait a week for the newest Dragon Ball episode. I'm willing to bet that most of these complainers are Toonami people.
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Re: How come people want to rush the arc now?

Post by Forte224 » Wed May 10, 2017 11:55 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Instead of the like U6 arc where the fighters from U6 were just tossed in front of us at the tournament, we at least now will know who some of the characters are, what their background is etc.
Which was fine I thought. It was in the spirit of the old tournaments in DB where you had these challengers in front of you but didn't know much about them, increasing your anticipation. I'm glad we're getting backstory glimpses for this arc though because of the stakes involved.

I'm not really rooting for U7 as much as I normally would, because these universes are all full of good people for the most part and don't deserve destruction; it's cool that the show is making me care about them (though I honestly don't think it'll end with many or even any of the universes being destroyed)

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Re: How come people want to rush the arc now?

Post by omaro34 » Wed May 10, 2017 11:58 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:People aren't used to having to wait a week for the newest Dragon Ball episode. I'm willing to bet that most of these complainers are Toonami people.
That's precisely what it is. I've been watching Super for over a year now and I'm still so used to watching Dragonball every weekday like how it used to be.

Waiting a week and watching just 20 minutes requires excellent patience.
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Re: How come people want to rush the arc now?

Post by SansrivaaL » Wed May 10, 2017 12:06 pm

I never complained about the pacing back in U6 arc and Black arc, now I am and its probably because I got used to anime that finishes its arc fast, I'm not used to slow pacing anymore.

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Re: How come people want to rush the arc now?

Post by omaro34 » Wed May 10, 2017 12:10 pm

SansrivaaL wrote:I never complained about the pacing back in U6 arc and Black arc, now I am and its probably because I got used to anime that finishes its arc fast, I'm not used to slow pacing anymore.
Well the complaint in the U6 arc was that the pacing was too fast, so maybe they want to address that complaint and milk in as much revenue as possible along the way by rejuvenating popular characters & designs.
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Re: How come people want to rush the arc now?

Post by Totamo » Wed May 10, 2017 12:12 pm

because the fandom is zeno. impatient.

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Re: How come people want to rush the arc now?

Post by Sodhi » Wed May 10, 2017 12:22 pm

Like, what even has happened so far in the arc. Other than preliminary nothing interesting has happened yet. Recruitment took more episodes than it needed. Now it will be training in 90 with bunch of nothing episodes. It's all so telegraphed and mediocre that I want it to get to the tournament already.

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Re: How come people want to rush the arc now?

Post by buutenks » Wed May 10, 2017 12:30 pm

Why I want it rushed? Because its one episode per week and because I really really want to see Goku's new transformation or technique, whichever it may be. And wanna see fem Broly in action. I could care less for these recruitment EPs, I want to see the amazing fights between these new characters.

Even with Dbz, when i first watched as a kid, I couldnt watch every episode due to not having cable, so I watched at my neighbour or other kids place when I could. So I watched only the meat of the series, so to say. Aka, Goku vs Piccolo jr,full fight, ssj Goku vs Freeza, not all tho. Then once we had cable after 2 years I think, I saw the full Gohan vs Cell fight on TV and later on kid Buu vs ssj2/3 Goku. Its funny since I knew about Freeza and Goku, but had no idea who this Vegeta was or Gohan, till I watched Gohan vs Cell. I still remember staying in bed as a kid and watching a marathon of Gohan vs Cell, was pure magic, was like being in heaven.

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Re: How come people want to rush the arc now?

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed May 10, 2017 12:42 pm

Forte224 wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Instead of the like U6 arc where the fighters from U6 were just tossed in front of us at the tournament, we at least now will know who some of the characters are, what their background is etc.
Which was fine I thought. It was in the spirit of the old tournaments in DB where you had these challengers in front of you but didn't know much about them, increasing your anticipation. I'm glad we're getting backstory glimpses for this arc though because of the stakes involved.

I'm not really rooting for U7 as much as I normally would, because these universes are all full of good people for the most part and don't deserve destruction; it's cool that the show is making me care about them (though I honestly don't think it'll end with many or even any of the universes being destroyed)
I guess you could look at it that way too. We are not gonna get introduced to all 70 new fighters so for some that will stay in tact.

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