Evil Angels? Do Angels Want Their Universe Erased?

[Kastex]

This is something i've been thinking about for a while. i was going to make a thread on this before, but i wasn't too sure. let's discuss the angels, all of them. why they may or may not want their universe erased. their personalities, possible motives, etc.

i believe that some angels are hoping for the erasure of their universes mostly due to their kai and god of destruction, since they pretty much have to spend potential eternity with them. if an angel becomes unsatisfied, they could plot to cause the erasure of their universe while still performing their duty. our first sign of this was back in the u7 vs u6 tournament. after that tournament zen chan showed up. whis and vados straight up started complaining about beerus and champa. it's possible they weren't too serious, but it could have definitely caused the erasure of the GoD or even the universe itself.

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U10: i'm starting with u10 since this angel really interests me and her actions were quite recent (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAZ_7bWhfRo). it seems to me like she secretly wants her universe to lose in the ToP. where was she when zamasu was killing gowasu (since killing the kai kills the God as well)? whis had to do all the work lol. i could only assume she doesn't like her GoD so she wants him gone. i mean, rumsshim seems like a real dumbass. the way he chose fighters by not thinking about it, and discarding logic.... what? it's like this guy just went to the nearest gym and signed up whoever was lifting. look at the dumbass from u10 who got knocked out in episode 97 because she forgot to fly..... it looks like frieza took out one of them in 98 with ease too. and his angel was just going along with it while he was picking out those fighters. and she was so quick to shut down gowasu's thought process about picking out fighters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9pg5KTddZQ she's literally partying like it's the end of the universe... lol really though she seems happy that such a not well put together team has been solidified for the tournament. i could only imagine the whole time she's thinking that it's finally over.

U7: in my opinion, i think whis seems like a very well balanced angel. kind of like how the youngest sibling (example) watches his older siblings screw up and doesn't want to become like them. i'm sure whis has had some character progression and well and his balancedness stems from that. he can kill time enjoying the luxuries earth has to offer, or play fighting with goku and vegeta. since beerus also seems like a well balanced GoD (when he's not sleeping), it makes sense that whis not swing too heavy on one side.

whis could have some motive for wanting beerus erased since he has slept for so many years while whis can't sleep. this could be incredibly boring, but at the same time at least whis gets to do what he wants while beerus is sleeping. so perhaps that balances out. i don't think that whis is plotting for u7 to lose in the ToP because whis does have a lot to look forward to in U7 now. if beerus wins he is sure to step his game up and take his job more seriously (meaning less sleeping and less boredom).

U6: vados seems like the kind of angel who adapts her personality to suit her GoD, while maintaining her own personality beneath the act. i think if she were to completely unwind then her personality would be like a girl that you just want to chill with while not getting intimate with her. very genuine, brutally honest, etc. that's just my speculation of course.

anyway, she seems like she kinda just deals with champa. like as if she has an "it could be worse" approach to him. i suppose she could have motive to plot u6 demise in the tournament but it doesn't seem like she had a hand in any such thing. i think her situation isn't too bad for her.

U9: well, obvious reasons now.

U11: we really don't know much about the angel and GoD for this universe. i think this was done on purpose. it seems to be a powerful, well looked after universe with competent deities. from what we can tell, it seems like the angel and GoD get along well. we don't know much about their personalities, but they don't seem to conflict with each other.

there may not be a motive for the angel to plot to the erasure of this universe. besides that, she'd probably feel that it's a futile effort anyway.

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other universes edited in later after more research. feel free to help me fill in information for all angels (even the ones without participating universes in the ToP) including their names.

[Shinda Forever]

I think Mojito didn't train U9 fighters like Whis did with Goku and Vegeta. It is not normal that the angels don't push the limits of everyone for a tournament like this.

[julianix]

I think the grand priest is bad and some of his kids know it... I also believe there's good angels that don't know what dad is planning.

[GodKaio-Ken]

I had no opinion either way before this episode...but the way the Grand Priest seemed to almost enjoy doing that...if hes not "evil" hes at least a greatly disturbed diety.

Zamasu switched bodies with the Grand Priest this time

Seriously though I'm hoping just a couple angels end up good.

[TheOne]

I had no opinion either way before this episode...but the way the Grand Priest seemed to almost enjoy doing that...if hes not "evil" hes at least a greatly disturbed diety.

Zamasu switched bodies with the Grand Priest this time

Seriously though I'm hoping just a couple angels end up good.

Me too. Power wise, I could never see Goku and company catching up to them anytime soon. To the point where I feel an Angel involvement will be required to take down another angel. Whether it's through special training, or helping them locate the source of where angels come from and destroying it.

[MKCSTEALTH]

The angels have been stated to be uncaring and unemotional. Hence why even Whis chuckled when Beerus said he wasn't getting erased.

As for Mojito, the reason he smiled is because he hated having to deal with his GoD and Kai. What the ultimate plan will be for the angels of the erased universes will have to be seen.

[Beerus-sama]

I think Whis want his Universe to be erased. He talks so happy when people ask about it. i.e. when Krillin asked what would happen if they don't have the 10 members ready. Also when Beerus was surprised he wouldn't be erased.
He also enforced the rules when Beerus told Goku and friends to use Senzu Beans when no one is watching and didn't want to change the situation any moment when he was asking him about telling Daishinkan not to do it.

[Yomi]

Mojito is a special case, he really hated his universe.
So he just seems relieved. I don't think Whis would be happy.

Him and Beerus seem too close.

[Lord Beerus]

I don't think the angel care that much. They are pretty much a neutral force int eh grand scope of the multiverse and don't majorly interfere in personal affairs. Considering how flippant and nonchalant they are in their perspective of life and death, I'm sure that a universe being erased doesn't really matter to them personally. They only exist to assist a Hakaishin.

[GodKaio-Ken]

The angels have been stated to be uncaring and unemotional. Hence why even Whis chuckled when Beerus said he wasn't getting erased.

As for Mojito, the reason he smiled is because he hated having to deal with his GoD and Kai. What the ultimate plan will be for the angels of the erased universes will have to be seen.

The problem is the first part implies no emotion but the second part implies dislike which is an emotion.

[Kanious]

I don't think the angel care that much. They are pretty much a neutral force int eh grand scope of the multiverse and don't majorly interfere in personal affairs. Considering how flippant and nonchalant they are in their perspective of life and death, I'm sure that a universe being erased doesn't really matter to them personally. They only exist to assist a Hakaishin.

if fact Whis cares somehow. He would prefer to not lose the Earth food... but he would accept if that's the fate of U7

[Snakeway Skywalker]

lol
This is like the third or fourth thread I've seen today on this topic. Not to mention, a number of videos discussing it as well.

[GreatSaiyaJeff]

I'm going to wait and see, U9 angel while had that evil smile, he has in past episodes showed to be annoyed with his universe. If their are good and bad angels, he's definitely one of them. From what I have seen, Whis, Vados and U10's seem to get along with there god's of destruction. I mean U10'S angel seemed happy to make Gowasu a famous godtuber.

[Venus]

I'm going to wait and see, U9 angel while had that evil smile, he has in past episodes showed to be annoyed with his universe. If their are good and bad angels, he's definitely one of them. From what I haven't seen, Whis, Vados and U10's seem to get along with there god's of destruction. I mean U10'S angel seemed happy to make Gowasu a famous godtuber.

Or she was just dancing happily while thinking to herself "Finally I am going to be free, without bonds with this shitty GoD", anything can happen.

[GreatSaiyaJeff]

I'm going to wait and see, U9 angel while had that evil smile, he has in past episodes showed to be annoyed with his universe. If their are good and bad angels, he's definitely one of them. From what I haven't seen, Whis, Vados and U10's seem to get along with there god's of destruction. I mean U10'S angel seemed happy to make Gowasu a famous godtuber.

Or she was just dancing happily while thinking to herself "Finally I am going to be free, without bonds with this shitty GoD", anything can happen.

But she's too cute to be evil....I guess I'm just hoping

[Makai]

There's no reason for the angels to be evil. They're the strongest beings in their universe, Whis and Beerus have been together for millions of years, and he even trained him, and is training others with potential to be as strong as a GoD. Not to mention he's rewinded time just to save the Earth. If they were plotting some evil scheme, I'm sure it would've been carried out by now. Also, the Grand Priest is likely the second strongest behind Zeno, and it seems he has a little influence on his decisions, so if he wanted the Universes erased, I'm sure it would've happened long before now.

[Lord Beerus]

I don't think the angel care that much. They are pretty much a neutral force int eh grand scope of the multiverse and don't majorly interfere in personal affairs. Considering how flippant and nonchalant they are in their perspective of life and death, I'm sure that a universe being erased doesn't really matter to them personally. They only exist to assist a Hakaishin.

if fact Whis cares somehow. He would prefer to not lose the Earth food... but he would accept if that's the fate of U7

I don't think losing the food of a backwater planet like Earth would break his balls in the slightest.

[MKCSTEALTH]

The angels have been stated to be uncaring and unemotional. Hence why even Whis chuckled when Beerus said he wasn't getting erased.

As for Mojito, the reason he smiled is because he hated having to deal with his GoD and Kai. What the ultimate plan will be for the angels of the erased universes will have to be seen.

The problem is the first part implies no emotion but the second part implies dislike which is an emotion.

No emotion was a poor choice of words on my part. Indifferent is better.

[Lionel]

Each does appear to have some varying degree of tolerance and satisfaction for being chained to their respective pair of deities. Depending on what those experiences have been like, they may or may not wish to see those gods and their worlds destroyed. I personally hope that Whis isn't on the destructive side but who knows? These characters are obviously motivated by themselves primarily. The larger purpose of the deity hierarchy and their authority means more than whatever attachments which may have been formed between the angels and their charges.

[GodKaio-Ken]

Fwiw Its not just that Mojito smiled. Its that the smile meant enough for TOEI to cut directly to his face to show it.

There are only two reasons shows do this:

1) To foreshadow evil.

2) To give the false impression a good character is evil.


We already know Mojito is an asshole so I dont think its #2.