Kaioken: Form Vs. Power up

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Kaioken: Form Vs. Power up

Post by cheddarsword » Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:43 pm

Okay, so real talk. Kaioken appears to be a (rather potent) power up, and yet it's considered by many to be a form. considering that it can "technically" be applied to any form of Super Saiyan (not without risks however), it appears to be more of a power up than a form.

And before anyone says anything, yes, I know that it's only use in combination with a form of Super Saiyan other than Blue is strictly non canon, I think we can agree that it is at least plausible that it has been attempted and with enough Ki control, could indeed be possible/viable.

So given that it's considered to be a form by some, I would like to have an answer that's as close to concrete as I can possibly get. Would including it in a list of forms get me laughed at, or would omitting it get me flamed?

...Yeah, kind of a "damned if you do/don't" situation. And considering that my goal is to make a list of all known saiyans and the forms they have achieved, I'd prefer the correct answer, even if it's not the popular one.

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Re: Kaioken: Form Vs. Power up

Post by Cetra » Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:49 pm

I call it a Boost/Power Up that can be used (potentially) with every form and I do not care if "that is dangerous because blablabla" because "dangerous or almost impossible" still makes it usable, even if it is absolutely risky and the chance in some forms might be almost 100% for him to die or whatever they would come up with.

So - Power Up/Enhancement/Something like that.

And Gohan would have never beat a Kaiouken Cell. I would have liked to see a quick battle of Kaiouken Vegetto and Kaiouken Fusion Zamasu though.
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Re: Kaioken: Form Vs. Power up

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:51 pm

Normally, it seems to be a momentary amplification technique. However, judging from the Super anime's portrayal, it seems to coat the Blue power consistently, making it more like a new form. I'd say Goku's application of it on top of Blue is its own evolution in the Super Saiyan line, but in every other case, it's just a powerful technique.
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Re: Kaioken: Form Vs. Power up

Post by Totamo » Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:27 am

kaioken is a power up as is super saiyan blue kaioken

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Re: Kaioken: Form Vs. Power up

Post by Eternal Super Saiyan » Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:07 pm

It's more specifically a technique. If anyone can learn it, then it's not exclusively a form. Pretty simple to think about.
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Re: Kaioken: Form Vs. Power up

Post by cheddarsword » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:16 pm

This all really goes along with my thought process. i guess the same could be said for "potential unleashed" as well.

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