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Is u7 overpowered

Post by Dragonballgod19 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:10 pm

Saw this topic on another site and I kinda agree with this after seeing this episode like wtf they didn't even need Freeza
-goku and vegeta solo a whole universe
-17 wasn't even close to being serious in this episode while fighting
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Re: Is u7 overpowered

Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:11 pm

No. All the other universes are severely underpowered.
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Re: Is u7 overpowered

Post by Doctor. » Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:13 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:No. All the other universes are severely underpowered.
This, pretty much. They had the best excuse to make extremely powerful fighters: completely different universes with completely new characters with completely unknown backgrounds and methods of getting stronger. Yet they chose to make everyone weak. And not only that, instead of matching those characters up with the humans or the weaker characters, they end up matching them up with Goku and Vegeta's base or Super Saiyan forms or some of the stronger U7 characters instead.

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Re: Is u7 overpowered

Post by Dragonballgod19 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:15 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:No. All the other universes are severely underpowered.
Aside from jiren,hit and toppo everyone just seems so weak compared to them it's ridiculous

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Re: Is u7 overpowered

Post by omaro34 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:18 pm

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fadeddreams5 wrote:No. All the other universes are severely underpowered.
This, pretty much. They had the best excuse to make extremely powerful fighters: completely different universes with completely new characters with completely unknown backgrounds and methods of getting stronger. Yet they chose to make everyone weak. And not only that, instead of matching those characters up with the humans or the weaker characters, they end up matching them up with Goku and Vegeta's base or Super Saiyan forms or some of the stronger U7 characters instead.
Exactly. Goku and Vegeta should be fighting top tier opponents. It annoyed me realizing it was them taking out universe nine mostly with their redundant super saiyan forms. Should have been Gohan and his crew taking them on.

The matchups in this tournament for the most part has been atrocious.
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Re: Is u7 overpowered

Post by Dragonballgod19 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:25 pm

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Doctor. wrote:
fadeddreams5 wrote:No. All the other universes are severely underpowered.
This, pretty much. They had the best excuse to make extremely powerful fighters: completely different universes with completely new characters with completely unknown backgrounds and methods of getting stronger. Yet they chose to make everyone weak. And not only that, instead of matching those characters up with the humans or the weaker characters, they end up matching them up with Goku and Vegeta's base or Super Saiyan forms or some of the stronger U7 characters instead.
Exactly. Goku and Vegeta should be fighting top tier opponents. It annoyed me realizing it was them taking out universe nine mostly with their redundant super saiyan forms. Should have been Gohan and his crew taking them on.

The matchups in this tournament for the most part has been atrocious.
Completely agree and they literally didn't even need Freeza

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Re: Is u7 overpowered

Post by Yedis » Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:27 pm

Remember all the pre tournament hype? There were discussions about how the entire U7 team should train with Whis, how a universe might have 10 fighters who can match SSB, or How Krillin, Tien, and Roshi were too weak.

That all seems silly now :lol:
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Re: Is u7 overpowered

Post by Slaythe » Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:27 pm

THERE ARE 39 MINUTES LEFT.

Let U7 shine, it's been decades since those characters had any time to showcase what they can do.

You want Gohan and 17 to be trash right after they came back or what ?

The toughest enemies will be there for the later stages.

Brianne seems to be at least on 17's level, Jiren is above everyone, Kale and Hit are also up there, let's see who else will stand out.

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Re: Is u7 overpowered

Post by Bullza » Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:31 pm

Well no they aren't over powered because you know that in the end Universe 7 will barely win. If they were over powered they'd win the entire thing easily.

It's more of a matter of Universe 6, 7 and 11 having Top Tier fighters which all the other Universes completely lack.

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Re: Is u7 overpowered

Post by Jigurashi » Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:33 pm

U7 probably does have the strongest team overall.

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Re: Is u7 overpowered

Post by Dragonballgod19 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:34 pm

Bullza wrote:Well no they aren't over powered because you know that in the end Universe 7 will barely win. If they were over powered they'd win the entire thing easily.

It's more of a matter of Universe 6, 7 and 11 having Top Tier fighters which all the other Universes completely lack.
You know aside from hit and jiren goku or vegeta could literally one shot that whole team

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Re: Is u7 overpowered

Post by MagmonKai » Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:41 pm

I'm sure if these fights were fights to the death, we'd see a different outcome. Some of these "fodder" candidates have really useful skills that would be tough to beat in an all out fight like Botamo and Coccotte for example. Simple ringing out your opponents means this tournament is like a joke.

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Re: Is u7 overpowered

Post by IKevinX » Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:43 pm

Not really. I think it's just what I was supposed to be.
We literally have characters that are on the same realm as the Gods of Destruction and everytime that happens, the gods themselfs act surprised, meaning it isn't an easy task to accomplish, no matter how many universes there are.
Not to mention they had very little time to round up all the fighters so it's not weird to assume there isn't someone like Kale or Caulifla from the other universes that couldn't be found on time for the TOP.
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Re: Is u7 overpowered

Post by Dragonballgod19 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:52 pm

IKevinX wrote:Not really. I think it's just what I was supposed to be.
We literally have characters that are on the same realm as the Gods of Destruction and everytime that happens, the gods themselfs act surprised, meaning it isn't an easy task to accomplish, no matter how many universes there are.
Not to mention they had very little time to round up all the fighters so it's not weird to assume there isn't someone like Kale or Caulifla from the other universes that couldn't be found on time for the TOP.
Dude literally any of the 6 members from u7 could one shot Caulifla and kale literally

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Re: Is u7 overpowered

Post by buutenks » Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:04 pm

Well overall U7 has the strongest warriors. U11 has 2 GoD level fighters, u6 has only 1 and u7 has 3(Goku, Vegeta and Freeza).

17, Lssj Kale and Ultimate Gohan r probably around the same playingfield, with Gohan being on nr 1 of the 3.

I wonder who Dyspo will fight, will it be 17? I am asking this because Dyspo is shown in the intro next to Toppo and Jiren, so he is no slouch.

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Re: Is u7 overpowered

Post by Doctor. » Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:06 pm

buutenks wrote:Well overall U7 has the strongest warriors. U11 has 2 GoD level fighters, u6 has only 1 and u7 has 3(Goku, Vegeta and Freeza).

17, Lssj Kale and Ultimate Gohan r probably around the same playingfield, with Gohan being on nr 1 of the 3.

I wonder who Dyspo will fight, will it be 17? I am asking this because Dyspo is shown in the intro next to Toppo and Jiren, so he is no slouch.
We already know Dyspo is fighting Hit.

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Re: Is u7 overpowered

Post by TheOne » Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:22 pm

I posted this earlier and I think this should really be taken into consideration when complaining about U7s strength. Their situation is not natural. They were plagued with events that were not normal and they had a handful of people progress/created at a rate completely out of the ordinary for their mortal level. It all started when Goku bumped his head in Dragon Ball.

If you think about it, the strongest person in U7 would've been Frieza or Buu. They would NOT have survived this long if that were the case. If this tournament was held while Goku didn't make an appearance, then U7 truly would've been one of the first ones out. It's all due to Goku and Vegeta that everyone Is this strong.

I think U7 overpowering everyone due to being the second lowest mortal level is a testimony that their "mortal level" ratings might be flawed. If we are going based off of tonight's episode, we can now say that mortal level and strength are definitely linked. This another reason why I think the Grand Priest had taken a liking to Goku and his universe. We've heard him commend their universe and expressed his jealousy about them. They are the clear favorites.

Instead of complaining about them being OP, why not feel happy about the universe we all grew up watching actually turn out to be something special?

There are still other universes out there that are exempt from this tournament. It's clear that the REAL fighters belong in those universes. Try looking ahead instead of what's in front of you.
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Re: Is u7 overpowered

Post by precita » Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:23 pm

Did you guys seriously think every fighter had Super Saiyan God-type power? Of course not, only a small handful probably do.

I don't see the problem, it makes sense that every universe doesn't have insanely powerful warriors. Oddly enough the Trio de Dangers seemed to be more powerful than most of the other fighters, and they were all probably around SSJ2 or Perfect Cell level.

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Re: Is u7 overpowered

Post by Jigurashi » Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:23 pm

Doctor. wrote:
buutenks wrote:Well overall U7 has the strongest warriors. U11 has 2 GoD level fighters, u6 has only 1 and u7 has 3(Goku, Vegeta and Freeza).

17, Lssj Kale and Ultimate Gohan r probably around the same playingfield, with Gohan being on nr 1 of the 3.

I wonder who Dyspo will fight, will it be 17? I am asking this because Dyspo is shown in the intro next to Toppo and Jiren, so he is no slouch.
We already know Dyspo is fighting Hit.
Hopefully Dyspo puts in a good showing. Not asking for him to win or anything, but to give Hitto a decent enough of a fight at the least. Anymore would be appreciated.

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Re: Is u7 overpowered

Post by MKCSTEALTH » Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:31 pm

I feel the characters they want to be the focus (Jiren, Toppo, Kale, Ribrianne) they made strong. Everyone else just seems gimmicky to me. We have people that freeze, poison, have claws, can fly with wings, etc.

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