How physically strong are the DBZ characters?

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How physically strong are the DBZ characters?

Post by superstar » Thu Aug 24, 2006 1:50 pm

Hi, I was wondering do any of you know (or can give an estimate) how strong physically the DBZ verse is?

For example they can blow up the planet with Ki attacks but can they destroy a planet with a punch?
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Post by vl » Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:00 pm

How do you imagine destroying a planet with your fist, they probably can't even make a hole big enough to destroy the Tenkaichi Budokai ring. If you want numbers, I think Goku was training with 40 tons(ask someone with the manga, I can't remember if that was it) when he was in the after-life. He had problems as normal Saiyan, but could do it easily as Super Saiyan.

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Post by Casual Matt » Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:39 pm

The whole reasoning behind being able to blow up a planet is concentrating enough destructive ki in a beam that can penetrate through to the planet's core and ignite it. Not just hitting a planet and destroying it.

I don't want to turn this into that kind of debate, but when it comes to punching strength alone, I think someone like Superman has more power to his punch than most Dragon Ball Z characters. I mean the guy punched time before. Then again, the incredible Hulk once destroyed a meteor twice the size of Earth by punching it. Though, that wasn't really a planet. Just a big hunk of rock.

But what was my point again?

Oh, yeah. Anyway, the fact that Dragon Ball Z characters are so strong is because of their ki. It allows them to move faster and punch harder. Still, I doubt they could hit a planet hard enough to break it. Though certain ones could probably crack a planet sized hunk of rock clean in two.

Irregardless, I doubt we'd ever see a DBZ character punch a planet to pieces. Since most of them can't breath in space, it'd probably be a monumentally bad idea to try.

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Post by superstar » Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:01 pm

Superman only punched through time because their was barrier for him to punch at.

Anyways, if Ki is dragonball's main power source couldn't they destroy a planet if they generated enough ki in their punch? I mean, Goku blocked Trunks sword with his finger, which cut through Freeza who is more durable than a planet.

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Post by vl » Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:51 pm

superstar wrote:Superman only punched through time because their was barrier for him to punch at.

Anyways, if Ki is dragonball's main power source couldn't they destroy a planet if they generated enough ki in their punch? I mean, Goku blocked Trunks sword with his finger, which cut through Freeza who is more durable than a planet.
Its not really a question of strenght and durabilty in that case, its more a question of size. They can destroy a rock, and earth is a big rock type of thing, but they can't destroy earth, their simply can't generate a punch that affects such a big scale.

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Post by superstar » Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:15 pm

vl wrote:Its not really a question of strenght and durabilty in that case, its more a question of size. They can destroy a rock, and earth is a big rock type of thing, but they can't destroy earth, their simply can't generate a punch that affects such a big scale.
What does size have to do with Freeza being more Durable than a planet:?:

It is about strength and durability, Trunks cut through Freeza when a planet destroying blast did not kill Freeza. Goku blocks Trunks sword with his finger.

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Post by Casual Matt » Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:29 pm

superstar wrote:
vl wrote:Its not really a question of strenght and durabilty in that case, its more a question of size. They can destroy a rock, and earth is a big rock type of thing, but they can't destroy earth, their simply can't generate a punch that affects such a big scale.
What does size have to do with Freeza being more Durable than a planet:?:

It is about strength and durability, Trunks cut through Freeza when a planet destroying blast did not kill Freeza. Goku blocks Trunks sword with his finger.
Size has a lot to do with it. A hunk of Freeza might be more durable than a hunk of Earth, but there's a fuckton more Earth to punch. Much more mass to try to break apart.

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Post by superstar » Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:42 pm

The Lecherous Muten Roshi wrote:Size has a lot to do with it. A hunk of Freeza might be more durable than a hunk of Earth, but there's a fuckton more Earth to punch. Much more mass to try to break apart.
A Dying disembodied Freeza survived a planet 4 times bigger than earth blowing up. That would only mean that Freeza is more dense than the planet itslef because of his size. It would be harder trying to cut through Freeza then it would be the earth.

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Post by Saiyan » Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:38 pm

Just because he survived an explosion doesn't mean he's denser than the planet.

When the core exploded, all of the matter on the planet pretty much moved outwards at a terrifying force, with a huge amount of fire, etc. Rocks and such survived the blast, as shown when they find Freeza. Freeza was just another piece of matter that was broken apart by the blast.

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Post by superstar » Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:55 pm

Yes it does, because the planet was blown into pieces Freeza was still intact!

Freeza is more durable than a planet. Trunks cut through Freeza and Goku blocked Trunks sword with his finger. If that is not tough and strong I don't know what is. :?

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Post by Tyro » Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:01 pm

superstar wrote:A Dying disembodied Freeza survived a planet 4 times bigger than earth blowing up.
Where did it state that Namek was four times bigger than Earth? If memory serves, it didn't.

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Post by Li'l Lemmy » Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:16 pm

Hmm. This is just me speaking for myself, of course, but very specific questions regarding strength are usually so hard to gauge that I choose not to guess at most of them. I think it takes something away from the "mystery" element.

Speaking logically, I don't think any of the Z gang have a powerful enough punch to destroy a planet. A small asteroid or even a moon, sure, but not a planet. Besides, that's what ki is for.
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Post by Castor Troy » Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:01 pm

Probably about 1/10th of the strength Chuck Norris has.

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Post by Rocketman » Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:50 pm

superstar wrote:Freeza is more durable than a planet. Trunks cut through Freeza and Goku blocked Trunks sword with his finger. If that is not tough and strong I don't know what is. :?
Look at it this way:

Let's say Trunks' sword is three feet long.

Trunks slashes Freeza. Freeza is cut in half and dies.

Trunks slashes the Earth with the same force. Trunks has made a three-foot-deep cut in the Earth. The planet is basically unaffected.

Earth isn't stronger than Freeza, but it's so much bigger it can take much more punishment.

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Post by superstar » Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:25 pm

Rocketman wrote:Look at it this way:

Let's say Trunks' sword is three feet long.

Trunks slashes Freeza. Freeza is cut in half and dies.

Trunks slashes the Earth with the same force. Trunks has made a three-foot-deep cut in the Earth. The planet is basically unaffected.

Earth isn't stronger than Freeza, but it's so much bigger it can take much more punishment.
I understand what you are saying, it is the size difference yes.

What I am asking is, can a DBZ character with enough Ki and force behind a punch blow up a planet like their Ki attacks?

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Post by Metrite » Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:47 am

Merely punching the surface of the planet could never destroy it(that's almost like asking if punching one tiny hole in a single wall of a house would make the whole thing fall down :lol: ). If you're asking if they could punch through something as durable as the earth, such as a magical board that's as dense as the entire Earth compressed, then yes, but if you're asking if they could destroy the whole planet by merely punching the surface, then no(they'd have to fly all the way through it in order to make it a "planet destroying punch").

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Post by BrollysKin » Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:25 am

I hate these threads. Plain and simple, we will never know. It's a TV show.
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Post by Great Saiyaman » Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:50 am

I think people are over thinking the whole Core of the planet thing, Roshi's kamehameha blew the moon out of the sky, that's all we know, nothing about it's core was stated. Goku's strength by the Early Saiyan Saga surpasses the strength of Roshi's kamehameha, I think if enough force was put into it, a single pun ch by Saiyan Saga Goku could shatter the moon. I don't see any reason wny not. If they can shatter a rock when they're little, once they have super human strength, there's no reason why not. But I agree with the poster above me (forgot to check his name), these threads cause nothing but trouble in the end.
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Post by Snail » Fri Aug 25, 2006 3:37 am

This thread is getting a little ridiculous, and I agree with Great Saiyaman, it's a T.V. show, no need to overthink this too much. My verdict is; the physical strength of any of the characters from the Dragon World cannot destroy a planet with one punch to the ground, they can cause a giant crater, but that's all, imo of course.

hmm, however I do recall watching Kid Buu hopping from planet to planet on his foot blowing planet's or moons to dust in an instant, I'll have to purchase the Kid buu saga and watch it soon.

Anyhow, let's stop this while we still can, let's not overthink over something like this :lol:

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Post by Blitzen » Fri Aug 25, 2006 3:38 am

Castor Troy wrote:Probably about 1/10th of the strength Chuck Norris has.
Which is what, fueled by the ammount of lame sites and chain emails that went around in 2004/5 when it was supposed to be 'actually funny'?

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