Would being born with a power level of 31 have helped Goku? Could anyone lift the Earth in the Frieza Saga?

[Steven Bloodriver]

3) Instead of the apparent 50 times multiplier, would giving a 310 times boost to only the Super Saiyan forms of Goku, Gohan, Future Gohan, and Future Trunks, have helped the heroes in the Androids Saga?

4) What would you have done if you had reincarnated as Vegeta, Frieza, Cell, or Majin Buu at the time of their births? Along with either of the very vile villains you have chosen replacing you in the actual world?

[nickzambuto]

These are some random ass questions lmao

[MainJPW]

No one can lift the Earth even in the Boo arc.

[Gog]

3) Instead of the apparent 50 times multiplier, would giving a 310 times boost to only the Super Saiyan forms of Goku, Gohan, Future Gohan, and Future Trunks, have helped the heroes in the Androids Saga?

4) What would you have done if you had reincarnated as Vegeta, Frieza, Cell, or Majin Buu at the time of their births? Along with either of the very vile villains you have chosen replacing you in the actual world?

...Wouldn't these questions be more suited for the What If thread? Food for thought.

1. If they had a boost of 310 then Future Trunks would never have gone into the past in the first place. Gohan kills the androids in their second duel. And he himself gets killed off by an enraged Cell, furious that his perfection has been snatched from him. And who then kills off Trunks too.

4) Boo would become a psychopath, and get killed. Freeza would become a successful politician, Cell would be a wrestler, and Vegeta would be his rival. In their places I just do my own thing.

[Polyphase Avatron]

No one can lift the Earth even in the Boo arc.

Lift it in respect to what, is the question. When you lift something on Earth, you're lifting it against the Earth's gravity field. So you can't possibly 'lift" Earth unless it was sitting in another larger gravity field (and no, the sun doesn't count - the Earth orbits the sun which is quite different from resting on it).

[MainJPW]

Lift it in respect to what, is the question. When you lift something on Earth, you're lifting it against the Earth's gravity field. So you can't possibly 'lift" Earth unless it was sitting in another larger gravity field (and no, the sun doesn't count - the Earth orbits the sun which is quite different from resting on it).

I was assuming he meant Earth's weight.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Lift it in respect to what, is the question. When you lift something on Earth, you're lifting it against the Earth's gravity field. So you can't possibly 'lift" Earth unless it was sitting in another larger gravity field (and no, the sun doesn't count - the Earth orbits the sun which is quite different from resting on it).

I was assuming he meant Earth's weight.

Still wouldn't make sense, as if there was an object on Earth with the same mass as Earth, the center of gravity of the two objects would immediately become averaged between them, and they would merge into one object.

[nickzambuto]

Dragon Ball characters are martial artists, there isn't a whole lot of muscle power within them (compared to similar powerhouse characters that is). Goku could certainly destroy a planet with a ki-powered strike, and maybe the more telekinetically talented of the cast could move a planet with their mind, but lifting it with pure muscles is out of the question.

[GodKaio-Ken]

Lift it in respect to what, is the question. When you lift something on Earth, you're lifting it against the Earth's gravity field. So you can't possibly 'lift" Earth unless it was sitting in another larger gravity field (and no, the sun doesn't count - the Earth orbits the sun which is quite different from resting on it).

I was assuming he meant Earth's weight.

Still wouldn't make sense, as if there was an object on Earth with the same mass as Earth, the center of gravity of the two objects would immediately become averaged between them, and they would merge into one object.

I wouldn't assume physics in DB mean anything.

[Polyphase Avatron]

I was assuming he meant Earth's weight.

Still wouldn't make sense, as if there was an object on Earth with the same mass as Earth, the center of gravity of the two objects would immediately become averaged between them, and they would merge into one object.

I wouldn't assume physics in DB mean anything.

Well they certainly take liberties but you can't completely throw them out, or else everything becomes meaningless.

[GodKaio-Ken]

Still wouldn't make sense, as if there was an object on Earth with the same mass as Earth, the center of gravity of the two objects would immediately become averaged between them, and they would merge into one object.

I wouldn't assume physics in DB mean anything.

Well they certainly take liberties but you can't completely throw them out, or else everything becomes meaningless.

I always look at cartoons as having surface level physics. In other words most of the basic things we would encounter and recognize are portrayed accurately.

Beyond that level though I dont think they are really meant to be accurate. It reminds me of Pinky and the Brain where they build a replica Earth above Earth made of recycled goods and people can actually live on it Its not really possible.

[MainJPW]

Lift it in respect to what, is the question. When you lift something on Earth, you're lifting it against the Earth's gravity field. So you can't possibly 'lift" Earth unless it was sitting in another larger gravity field (and no, the sun doesn't count - the Earth orbits the sun which is quite different from resting on it).

I was assuming he meant Earth's weight.

Still wouldn't make sense, as if there was an object on Earth with the same mass as Earth, the center of gravity of the two objects would immediately become averaged between them, and they would merge into one object.

I was thinking of something more along the lines of this:



Or this:



These don't really make sense either but it's comic-book fiction.

[saunasolmu]

Vegeta doesn't come close to lifting 1,000 tons in his SSJ form even now and Goku in the Buu saga needs SSJ to lift 40. There's no way that any humanoid character in the series comes anywhere close to lifting a planet and I don't know where the idea even comes from. The limits of their physical strength have consistently been shown in the series.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Yeah, the Superman stuff is nonsensical too. So it's really hard to say if you're arguing whether someone can break the laws of physics in the same way, as there's no way to really analyze what it takes to do it in the first place.

[Saiyan007]

Vegeta doesn't come close to lifting 1,000 tons in his SSJ form even now and Goku in the Buu saga needs SSJ to lift 40. There's no way that any humanoid character in the series comes anywhere close to lifting a planet and I don't know where the idea even comes from. The limits of their physical strength have consistently been shown in the series.

But that's just ssj vegeta I don't see how that's his max limit considering him in that form is using less than 1% of his overall power.

How did you come to the conclusion that they can't lift it we've never seen them at max strength try to lift anything and fail.

[MainJPW]

How did you come to the conclusion that they can't lift it we've never seen them at max strength try to lift anything and fail.

When has any Dragon Ball character lifted anything close to the weight of an Earth sized planet?

[Saiyan007]

How did you come to the conclusion that they can't lift it we've never seen them at max strength try to lift anything and fail.

When has any Dragon Ball character lifted anything close to the weight of an Earth sized planet?

When has a DB character ever even attempted to lift something at their full strength?

SSJG Goku had enough power to destroy a universe(that's an insane boost in power),using SSJ Vegeta as an example as if that's his maximum output is faulty logic.

Their max lifting strength is unknown and quite frankly irrelevant, give me the power to destroy the universe over lifting Earth,the first one is astronomically more impressive

[Polyphase Avatron]

How did you come to the conclusion that they can't lift it we've never seen them at max strength try to lift anything and fail.

When has any Dragon Ball character lifted anything close to the weight of an Earth sized planet?

When has a DB character ever even attempted to lift something at their full strength?

SSJG Goku had enough power to destroy a universe(that's an insane boost in power),using SSJ Vegeta as an example as if that's his maximum output is faulty logic.

Their max lifting strength is unknown and quite frankly irrelevant, give me the power to destroy the universe over lifting Earth,the first one is astronomically more impressive

Yet both don't make any sense according to the laws of physics.

[SaiyanGod117]

Vegeta doesn't come close to lifting 1,000 tons in his SSJ form even now and Goku in the Buu saga needs SSJ to lift 40. There's no way that any humanoid character in the series comes anywhere close to lifting a planet and I don't know where the idea even comes from. The limits of their physical strength have consistently been shown in the series.

Well Vegeta failing to lift 1000 tons was in the DBS manga, in episode 3 of Super we see Goku lifting well over 40 tons and 1000 tons in base. In addition, to it being on King Kai's planet, so whatever the unspecified set of weight he was lifting would have been multiplied times ten.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Vegeta doesn't come close to lifting 1,000 tons in his SSJ form even now and Goku in the Buu saga needs SSJ to lift 40. There's no way that any humanoid character in the series comes anywhere close to lifting a planet and I don't know where the idea even comes from. The limits of their physical strength have consistently been shown in the series.

Well Vegeta failing to lift 1000 tons was in the DBS manga, in episode 3 of Super we see Goku lifting well over 40 tons and 1000 tons in base. In addition, to it being on King Kai's planet, so whatever the unspecified set of weight he was lifting would have been multiplied times ten.

I'm tired of people saying this. It doesn't work like that - weight is determined by reference to the specific gravity field it's in. Something said to weigh 6 tons on Earth would weigh the same as something said to weigh 6 tons on the moon - their mass would just be different. If you took the 6 ton weight from Earth to the moon you'd have to then call it a 1 ton weight, and vice-versa.