Would you say Beerus' strength has been retconned, at least in the anime?

[WittyUsername]

While I've more or less learned to just stop worrying about power level consistency at this point, I still can't help but scratch my head over the whole situation with Beerus' power in relation to Goku and Vegeta. Back when BoG was released, it was stated that Beerus had to use 70% of his power to defeat Goku as a Super Saiyan God. Toriyama even stated that he considers Goku as a SSJG to be 60% as strong as Beerus, and in RF, Whis even suggested that Goku and Vegeta could defeat Beerus if they teamed up.

At this point in Superthough, it's been made clear that Goku and Vegeta still aren't anywhere near Beerus' level, despite how much stronger they've gotten since the RF arc, with Goku in particular having the ability to amplify his powers as a Super Saiyan Blue by 10. When you get right down to it, Goku should be able to mop the floor with Beerus by this point if the stats from BoG still applied.

Like I said, I've more or less learned to stop being bothered by power consistency and just accept the fact that a character like Roshi is now considered worthy of fighting alongside the other Z-warriors despite having seemingly lost all relevance after the King Piccolo arc, but the thing with Beerus strikes me as retcon that was done in order to maintain the character's status as an all-powerful God.

[BlueBasilisk]

At the end of the Battle of Gods arc, Whis calls Beerus out for lying about how much power he used in his fight with Goku. He's a lot stronger than he was letting on, but how much is unknown. Beerus asks Goku if he wants to fight again during one of the episodes when they were training on Planet Beerus, but Goku quickly says they're no match for him.

[precita]

Super Saiyan Blue Vegito should be stronger than Beerus. No reason not to be.

[Dai-Saiyajin]

I think Goku SSG power was retconned and not Beerus, in the BoG movie Goku as a SSG was 60 % of Beerus, in the anime he was likely only 15 or 20 % of beerus, and as a SSB he was probably 25 or 30 % of beerus full power.

[Big Black Sayian]

I think Goku SSG power was retconned and not Beerus, in the BoG movie Goku as a SSG was 60 % of Beerus, in the anime he was likely only 15 or 20 % of beerus, and as a SSB he was probably 25 or 30 % of beerus full power.

That or SSB would make Beerus use 65% of his power?

[Krillin1994]

Roshi > Beerus

[Zamasu55]

Yes.
By what BOG and Toryama had told us, he should've been weaker than SsjB KKx10 Goku from the Champa arc.

[Lord Beerus]

I certainly think that has been the case, especially with Toriyama's comment about not wanting Beerus by Goku and Vegeta, for now anyway. I think the mentaility that Toriyama had following BOG was that Goku (and Vegeta) would close the gap very much so with Beerus. This is even subtly implied in Resurrection F when Whis stated that if Goku and Vegeta were team up they could potentially defeat, or at least be a serious threat to Beerus. But after Resurrection F, and with the new stories of Super, Toriyama has obviously changed his tune, and seemingly very late in the game with regards to the preparation of the new content of Super, about how strong he wanted Beerus to be, at least in relation to Goku and Vegeta.

[Lionel]

I think Beerus still has an astronomical gap between him and the Saiyan pair. If Goku were to mesh his blue transformation with Kaioken he might equal a single percentage point of Beerus' total power. They otherwise have to fall back on the Potara Earrings to give them a leg up against the Hakaishin.

It's doubtlessly been retconned. Back in the BoG and RoF arcs the arrangement was presented as Goku and Vegeta being several tiers lower but still in the same overall ballpark as Beerus. Once the Champa arc started and the Kaioken was reintroduced, every delicate power structure notion was tossed out. Beerus is stronger by an unknown amount. Maybe in this latest arc we'll see the Saiyan pair or at least Goku finally begin to reach Beerus' dimension of power. After five arcs of being superior to the pair I think Beerus being the topmost benchmark has outlived its worthwhileness. I think he should either be caught up to or he begins his own training routine in order to rationalise the ever prevalent gap.

[Bullza]

Yes I do.

Back when he fought Vegeta they said he was using 10% of his power which I think was written to go hand in hand with information that we got from the movie where he used 70% against Super Saiyan God Goku.

Now he's obviously much stronger than the movie made him out to be. I suppose one would have to assume he was either lying about using 10% or he was telling the truth and just stayed at 10% the whole time throughout fighting Goku.

[GodKaio-Ken]

There were no plans for a series after B.O.G So the point was to make us go WOW Goku is that close to a God!

Once the series started and more villains appear I think one or both were recommend a bit yes.

[Xeogran]

Don't worry. As soon as Goku transforms into the Original Super Saiyan, even the God of Destruction appears puny.

[Legion]

Don't worry. As soon as Goku transforms into the Original Super Saiyan, even the God of Destruction appears puny.

Nice headcanon

[Ki Breaker]

Roshi > Beerus

No..
Get your facts straight..
Berrus << Roshi

Don't worry. As soon as Goku transforms into the Original Super Saiyan, even the God of Destruction appears puny.

Yeah, the lyrics.. After this form it more than likely won't matter whether or not his strength had been rectonned..
If I go by the manga definition, which I will because we are trying for things to make sense here, SSG wasn't strong enough to beat berrus but give him a fight he can enjoy like a game, SSB is simply a powerup from SSG and that's obviously not enough to beat berrus, his own words..
This new form whatever it is could be the SSG berrus was actually waiting for because Oracle fish still firmly believes these two are the ones who will end up as his rivals..

[Legion]

The part of the Gods in the opening is about the fact that they will be erased as well and that they are on the same page with mortals. The context is the tournament. Not that they are "puny" compared to Goku and Jiren. But is just an opening anyway, not facts.