Do you want Android 21 to appear in Super?

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Do you want Android 21 to appear in Super?

Post by precita » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:06 pm

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Do you want her to become canon in the mainline continuity? The videogame stories are never canon and are, "made up" so to speak.

Do you want her to be introduced in Super after this arc or sometime in the future?

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Re: Do you want Android 21 to appear in Super?

Post by Boo Machine » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:09 pm

We don't really know anything about her or even what her role in the games story is at this point in time. So my answer would have to be a no. She looks pretty cool though.
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Re: Do you want Android 21 to appear in Super?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:10 pm

Not sure how they can handle her in the story. I feel like new cyborgs/androids is hard to do now since the idea is over done. How can they do it without rehashing Cell, Super #13 and Super 17? #13 in DBZ Movie 7 already rehash Cell with him being made by Gero's computer and can absorbing two other cyborgs to become stronger.
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Re: Do you want Android 21 to appear in Super?

Post by Kanassa » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:30 pm

We know next to nothing about this character. This is really not the time to be wondering if she should be made cannon or not.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Re: Do you want Android 21 to appear in Super?

Post by precita » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:31 pm

Kanassa wrote:We know next to nothing about this character. This is really not the time to be wondering if she should be made cannon or not.
It is the perfect time exactly because whatever story she has in the games would likely conflict with Super. So she can be reimagined. For example I seriously doubt Android 16 will ever be rebuilt in canon like it is in the game story.

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Re: Do you want Android 21 to appear in Super?

Post by Kanassa » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:34 pm

precita wrote:
Kanassa wrote:We know next to nothing about this character. This is really not the time to be wondering if she should be made cannon or not.
It is the perfect time exactly because whatever story she has in the games would likely conflict with Super. So she can be reimagined. For example I seriously doubt Android 16 will ever be rebuilt in canon like it is in the game story.
That makes this even more pointless. A character isn't just their appearance.
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Re: Do you want Android 21 to appear in Super?

Post by precita » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:57 pm

It's called "a blank slate" meaning anything can be done with the character. There are people speculating she's Dr. Gero's wife or daughter for example.

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Re: Do you want Android 21 to appear in Super?

Post by Kanassa » Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:06 pm

precita wrote:It's called "a blank slate" meaning anything can be done with the character. There are people speculating she's Dr. Gero's wife or daughter for example.
Then should we make a thread about the random NPCs of Conton City being made canon?
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Re: Do you want Android 21 to appear in Super?

Post by FortuneSSJ » Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:20 pm

Mixed feelings.

I really love her design but I don't want DB FighterZ plot in the anime. The premise just don't seem interessant enough. If they could change some things around maybe, but I'm skeptical...
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Re: Do you want Android 21 to appear in Super?

Post by CJStriker_CBR » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:50 pm

While I think the story in FigtherZ is still be created for Android 21, Honestly I think a few Arcs down the road after Toei sees how well she hit off in the Game I cant' see why they many not Want to try and include Android 21 into the Super Anime Canon, in other word, I Be ALL for Android 21 being Included! :thumbup:

Now to do this it will have to be a well written and why now story, but that would be a few arcs down the road, so we got a long time to figure Android 21 out, who fully she is and how she can work. But for Any idea that she as a possible chance I say after all this happens, I would be Hyped to see Android 21 included! 8)


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Re: Do you want Android 21 to appear in Super?

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:13 pm

From what I can tell of her story based on the FighterZ trailer, no, I don't want her in the anime. We've already had Goku Black, we don't need an army of evil Gokus, that just sounds like bad fan fiction to me, and I really dislike the idea of 16 being a villain.

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Re: Do you want Android 21 to appear in Super?

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:50 pm

No, to be honest I don't care for her character design.
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Re: Do you want Android 21 to appear in Super?

Post by Soppa Saia People » Sat Sep 23, 2017 12:48 am

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Re: Do you want Android 21 to appear in Super?

Post by sintzu » Sat Sep 23, 2017 1:26 am

I'd rather them just do new stories. Even if she and the story are great, we're too far away form the androids level of stories to go back to them now.
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Re: Do you want Android 21 to appear in Super?

Post by Grimlock » Sat Sep 23, 2017 2:14 am

Yes. I think she'd be a great addition, two female androids around might be interesting.

But not before Miira and Towa, they need to appear first and need to appear now.

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Re: Do you want Android 21 to appear in Super?

Post by DragonBallFoodie » Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:37 am

Yes, I do.

She appears to be a Red Ribbon Army Android that was played straight, who was loyal to her army and could defeat the Z-Fighters. Such a concept would be fascinating, even if it goes against Akira Toriyama's concept of subverting concepts (the Androids he had previously created went off and did their own thing in the main timeline, and Cell and their alliances with the Z-Fighters later derailed their purpose).
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Re: Do you want Android 21 to appear in Super?

Post by emperior » Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:25 am

Only if she appears in a filler arc. Even then, her appearance would be forced so I think she should stay in FighterZ, even though I really like her design.
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Re: Do you want Android 21 to appear in Super?

Post by Michsi » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:23 am

Just watched the clip in which she appears and talks. Gotta say, her demeanor seems to be very different from the one her promo image and still shots suggested. She's seems like the serious sort, but a lot more demure and amicable then what I expected.

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Re: Do you want Android 21 to appear in Super?

Post by DragonBallFoodie » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:08 am

Michsi wrote:Just watched the clip in which she appears and talks. Gotta say, her demeanor seems to be very different from the one her promo image and still shots suggested. She's seems like the serious sort, but a lot more demure and amicable then what I expected.
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Re: Do you want Android 21 to appear in Super?

Post by MaskedRider » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:14 am

I would have to wait until DBFZ is released but for now my thoughts are nah. Maybe after the ToP. She would feel out of place,

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