I think Toei gave Hit's fans false hope (as for his strength in particular)

[Mercenary]

We all know that Toei's writers love Hit and they love giving him things he didn't even receive in the manga version. Assasination techniques were only introduced in this "small" arc where Hit killed Goku and this arc wasn't really a big deal. Something like Copy Vegeta Arc.

The rule states that killing is not allowed and Hit can't use his techniques but I think there's something more in it. Those techniques are not "THAT canon" (I know how it sounds, forgive me, lack of a better word) like Time Skip for example and they probably never meant to be.

This aside, Hit was never meant to be that strong. This whole "improving" thing when his opponent is stronger than Hit wasn't even a deal in the manga. Hit can't improve in the manga. At least not that significantly. Plus, SSG Goku was enough to take him down (lol). SSB Vegeta was able to use only 10% of his power and also he didn't know about his Time Skip. And that's why he lost to Hit. Otherwise, he would have totally destroyed him.

I get that Toei came to like Hit since the very beginning but because of this favorising , now Hit's gonna be beaten up by Jiren so badly, because Toei can't avoid the scenario and it will let his fanbase down. They've been left to their own devices for a very long time but they probably can't do it anymore.

So my point is - Hit was never meant to be THAT strong adversary. And that's why Hit's fans will be let down when Jiren wrecks him. In the manga it wouldn't be much of a shock because Hit wasn't portrayed as such a powerful guy as in the anime. What is more, his base form (in the manga) was even weaker than the Final Form Frost.

But that's only my thoughts on this. What do you guys think?

[Xeogran]

I think that getting defeated by Jiren doesn't dehype Hit at all. I mean we all knew it was coming ever since we saw Jiren for the first time.

Anime Hit is strong and he displayed that by disposing of Dyspo ( ) were it not for Kunshee. And then he took the latter Pride Trooper down too.

[Kataphrut]

Everything's a conspiracy, isn't it? Toei loved this new character so much they broke canon with the canon manga before it was even canon released to make him not-canon stronger than he actually is. In canon.

I'm sorry, I know you said you didn't like using that word, but everything in your post seems to stem from this idea that the manga version of Super is somehow the definitive version. But Toei's version of Super isn't following the manga, if anything the manga is following it. Both are different interpretations of the same source material and any differences between them are due to different interpretations from their respective writers.

And yeah, I think most people could guess Hit would job to Jiren because that's how it always goes down in this series. The best we can hope for is that he puts up a good fight. It doesn't diminish the fact that he was the biggest deal at the time of the U6 arc, which I would argue the manga botched by giving that excuse for Vegeta's loss.

[pacz360]

I don't see how losing to jiren dehypes hit
We all knew hit wouldn't stand chance against jiren especially since jiren saw his abilities in action so it's not like everyone believed he had a chance to begin with
Jiren is hyped to be a massive monster in the tourney to the point a ssjbkkx20 +spirit bomb wouldn't do shit to him so it's not like hit fighting a chump

[Glen300]

Many fans have predicted Hit losing to Jiren since Jiren was introduced. The only question is how one sided will it be?

Also the Anime and Manga are different continuities, the Anime version of Goku has SSB Kaioken, the Manga version does not. The Manga version of Goku and Vegeta have Mastered Super Saiyan Blue, the Anime versions do not. There's other examples of this in the Future Trunks Arc. How strong someone is in the Manga has nothing to do with the Anime version of the story. Toei doesn't go off the Manga, they make there own version of the story.

[Mercenary]

You see, I get that manga and anime are two different continuities but it's kinda ridiculous that one man portrays one guy as a decent fighter (not a weakling but also not a really impressive one) and the other version of the same guy is ultimate assasin of certain Universe capable of keeping up with power of other enemies (even much more powerful than him) and "adjusting" to their power, so he can improve himself.


The same thing goes with Goku and Vegeta. In the manga they're still pretty much equal while in the anime Goku left Vegeta behind in U6 Tournament Arc when he used KaioKen for the first time in DBS.
And from that time nothing really changed about it.

So my point is - it's great that manga can handle some things differently and anime also but I don't think they should be so inconsistent to each other and portray one version of a fighter as a much more weaker/powerful than his equivalent in the manga/anime, because it leads to really unclear situation.


And also Toyotaro stated that once manga leaves anime behind, Toei will be forced to adjust to Toyotaro's ideas much more than ATM.

[Kinokima]

I think Hit is plenty strong. As others have said Hit not being as strong as Jiren doesn't mean he is suddenly actually weak. It's just means Jiren is that strong.

[Duo]

I'm not really into reducing Hit to a mere number. Is he better in the anime because his power number is probably bigger? I think the Time Skip could be used more relevantly in the manga version of the Tournament of Power because the corresponding version of the U6/U7 tournament didn't put him against a massive number of opponents that probably can't follow that technique. He also may have been training in the meantime. Maybe he'll have a more interesting part in the story instead.

[MrBlackFox]

Watch Hit be the true surprise and knocking out that f..in' grey once for all

Everyone, every single spectator is 200% sure Jiren will defeat Hit, what if will happen the exact contrary?

There's no mention of Jiren after his fight vs Master Hit, could mean something or mean nothing, but still

[dbgtFO]

This is just Toei in a nutshell, it's interesting because they do it so consistently, so it's a question, if it's an industry standard or something.
They always hype antagonist characters and tend to portray them more capable of dealing with adversity instead of immediately starting to complain and embarrassing themselves, perhaps to make them a more formidable foe for the heroes.
It's the same way they handled Goku Black, as opposed to how Toyotaro handled him. In the anime Goku-Black doesn't whine or anything, he takes it all in his stride, even if he's outmatched and he knows it, he welcomes the challenge and takes it as an opportunity to improve himself, whereas manga Black follows the typical Toriyama portrayal of breaking down, as soon as things don't go his way.
Goku-Black in particular surpasses everything because he not only gets a positive antagonist boost, but also a Goku boost, since it's Goku, it just makes him that much greater, almost unstoppable in fact.

The fact, that Hit will have to cede his place to the new guy on the block won't mean they won't portray Hit as capable. I for one am not expecting a one shot stomp at the very least.

[Ziegander]

No mention of Hit or Jiren in the episodes following their fight. Hit assassinates Jiren and takes the disqualification? That would be nuts.

[Lord Frieza]

I find all these comments about Jiren being out just because he's not mentioned in the later epiosdes summeries amousing because last time a I checked, nether Hit nor Dyspo were mentioned post epiosde summeries past their fight and yet both are still in the tournamant.

Things do look bad for Hit himself, as with Jiren taking down Goku but not ringing him out Hit's chances of going out skyrocket. But even then unless it says otherwise Hit could still be in after the epiosde as well.

[MKJ]

Hit seems to consistently evolve his abilities in one way or another. Regardless of the outcome of the fight I fully expect him to take things to a different level against jiren. He will most likely display something that he has not shown us yet. I loved his adjustment to dyspo. From what I've noticed all the so called spoilers that come out weekly are nothing of the sort. It's not what they say as much as it is what they don't say. I remember the NEP showing ssb vegito and everyone went nuts, but he ended up not being all that relevant. Same as ssg goku a few weeks back. As far as the manga goes I don't really care since I don't read it. Based on comparisons mentioned on this forum I prefer the anime and it is not close.

[Jigurashi]

I think Toei will have Hitto give a respectable performance but I definitely don't see Hitto defeating Jiren.

[HeroR]

Hit wasn't that strong in the manga, so the anime must have overpowered him...

We could turned this around and say that the manga underpowered Hit.

[Amir]

Hit is the best oroginal character in the Super anime, and the way they portrayed him made him seem unbeatable since he can tank damage and get stronger while doing so, in the anime he was strong enough to put kaioken x10 down but in the manga he is a little above SSJG level with his full strength and nowhere near SSJB.
Jiren is gonna win, but please don't screw Hit over, he is the only character so far Super hasn't messed up yet, so let him go out with a bang, giving Jiren a run for his money like he should.

Since it's Super after all, I can see them making Hit job. I'll be sad regardless when he loses because as you can see I'm biased here, but I'll be raging all over the place if they let him go out like a chump.

[Mercenary]

I get that many of you guys are Hit's fans but I am not trying to "dehype" him or something like that. I just wanted to point out that such inconsistencies are not really good for the franchise at all, because we should know how much of a serious guy Hit is.

[Jigurashi]

Hit is the best oroginal character in the Super anime, and the way they portrayed him made him seem unbeatable since he can tank damage and get stronger while doing so, in the anime he was strong enough to put kaioken x10 down but in the manga he is a little above SSJG level with his full strength and nowhere near SSJB.
Jiren is gonna win, but please don't screw Hit over, he is the only character so far Super hasn't messed up yet, so let him go out with a bang, giving Jiren a run for his money like he should.

Since it's Super after all, I can see them making Hit job. I'll be sad regardless when he loses because as you can see I'm biased here, but I'll be raging all over the place if they let him go out like a chump.

I don't know why you're mentioning this as if it's a Super thing. If Hitto gets wrecked it's because this is just how Dragon Ball is.

[Amir]

Hit is the best oroginal character in the Super anime, and the way they portrayed him made him seem unbeatable since he can tank damage and get stronger while doing so, in the anime he was strong enough to put kaioken x10 down but in the manga he is a little above SSJG level with his full strength and nowhere near SSJB.
Jiren is gonna win, but please don't screw Hit over, he is the only character so far Super hasn't messed up yet, so let him go out with a bang, giving Jiren a run for his money like he should.

Since it's Super after all, I can see them making Hit job. I'll be sad regardless when he loses because as you can see I'm biased here, but I'll be raging all over the place if they let him go out like a chump.

I don't know why you're mentioning this as if it's a Super thing. If Hitto gets wrecked it's because this is just how Dragon Ball is.

I'm sorry. I have not watched DB and DBZ for quite a while now, so I only remember Super doing it with it's sometimes questionable writing, Z probably did it too.

[Jigurashi]

Hit is the best oroginal character in the Super anime, and the way they portrayed him made him seem unbeatable since he can tank damage and get stronger while doing so, in the anime he was strong enough to put kaioken x10 down but in the manga he is a little above SSJG level with his full strength and nowhere near SSJB.
Jiren is gonna win, but please don't screw Hit over, he is the only character so far Super hasn't messed up yet, so let him go out with a bang, giving Jiren a run for his money like he should.

Since it's Super after all, I can see them making Hit job. I'll be sad regardless when he loses because as you can see I'm biased here, but I'll be raging all over the place if they let him go out like a chump.

I don't know why you're mentioning this as if it's a Super thing. If Hitto gets wrecked it's because this is just how Dragon Ball is.

I'm sorry. I have not watched DB and DBZ for quite a while now, so I only remember Super doing it with it's sometimes questionable writing, Z probably did it too.

It's happened since OG DB. Goku jobs to Tao, Yamcha jobs to Tenshinhan, Tenshinhan jobs to Drum, Vegeta jobs to Recoome, Vegeta jobs to Cell, Gohan jobs to Bootenks, Goku jobs to Beerus, Vegeta jobs to Hitto, Vegeta jobs to Black. It's happened all across the series.