What Do You NOT Want To See in Episodes 109-110?
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What Do You NOT Want To See in Episodes 109-110?
What's the worst way that they could screw up the one hour special, particularly the Goku vs Jiren fight and Goku's supposed new form? It could be about the story, the mechanics of the form, Jiren's personality, Zeno's invovlement etc.
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Re: What Do You NOT Want To See in Episodes 109-110?
Any kind of Mass Elimination by Jiren powering up.
I believe most of the remaining fighters are useful and they won't be treated as hype material. Even random robots like Bollareta (who attacked Gohan) now get some screentime.
I believe most of the remaining fighters are useful and they won't be treated as hype material. Even random robots like Bollareta (who attacked Gohan) now get some screentime.
Re: What Do You NOT Want To See in Episodes 109-110?
Having characters still be “missing” or hidden.
Jiren being boring
Jiren being stupid powerful
Goku doing something stupid that he know shouldn’t work like throwing a spirit blob at a good person
That stupid thing Goku does like throwing a spirit bomb at a good person doesn’t work for reasons the audience knew and should have never been done on the first place but Goku forgot...
Goku as SSBxKKx20 still not as strong as Beerus
Randomly transforming
No explanation for the form
Form is actually based on move without thinking technique
This technique somehow lets him physically overpower Jiren
Find out later both Jiren and Goku were “holding back”
Jiren being boring
Jiren being stupid powerful
Goku doing something stupid that he know shouldn’t work like throwing a spirit blob at a good person
That stupid thing Goku does like throwing a spirit bomb at a good person doesn’t work for reasons the audience knew and should have never been done on the first place but Goku forgot...
Goku as SSBxKKx20 still not as strong as Beerus
Randomly transforming
No explanation for the form
Form is actually based on move without thinking technique
This technique somehow lets him physically overpower Jiren
Find out later both Jiren and Goku were “holding back”
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Re: What Do You NOT Want To See in Episodes 109-110?
I don't want to see any more tingly back transformations or recolors.
Goku do a Trunks and create a spirit bomb from the ki of 7 people. Then defeats Jiren with it.
Jiren revealing himself as another bad guy or him slowly becoming more and more mentally unstable as the fight goes on. That stuff's cliched.
Piccolo losing more arms or protecting Gohan....again.
Power scaling that needs more headcanon to make sense. E.g. SSB Goku fighting Jiren and then for some reason, Android 17 takes over and fights on par with Jiren.
More Ribrianne poses (or any of her for that matter)
Goku do a Trunks and create a spirit bomb from the ki of 7 people. Then defeats Jiren with it.
Jiren revealing himself as another bad guy or him slowly becoming more and more mentally unstable as the fight goes on. That stuff's cliched.
Piccolo losing more arms or protecting Gohan....again.
Power scaling that needs more headcanon to make sense. E.g. SSB Goku fighting Jiren and then for some reason, Android 17 takes over and fights on par with Jiren.
More Ribrianne poses (or any of her for that matter)
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Re: What Do You NOT Want To See in Episodes 109-110?
-Kale and Cauli showing up for even a microsecond.
-No one getting thrown out
-Jiren staying as a stoic,calm and cool wannabe gig.
-Other fighters not trying to go in between them and try to take em out.
-No one getting thrown out
-Jiren staying as a stoic,calm and cool wannabe gig.
-Other fighters not trying to go in between them and try to take em out.
Re: What Do You NOT Want To See in Episodes 109-110?
Xeogran wrote:Any kind of Mass Elimination by Jiren powering up.
This! For those of us waiting for something more significant between Piccolo and the U6 namekians, a possible elimination of any of them strictly to show how powerful Jiren is would be horrible. And I can imagine the same goes for all the other characters who weren't mentioned in the previews for the upcoming episodes too.
Not to overuse trope names, but boy do I ever hate the " Worf effect".
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Re: What Do You NOT Want To See in Episodes 109-110?
A long spirit bomb charging scene where every team member makes a speech while giving their energy to Goku, and all of the other fighters in the arena conveniently forget that there's a battle for the fate of their universes going on, and they just stand there and watch it happen.
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Re: What Do You NOT Want To See in Episodes 109-110?
1.) ALL of THIS!^^^Xeogran wrote:Any kind of Mass Elimination by Jiren powering up.
I believe most of the remaining fighters are useful and they won't be treated as hype material. Even random robots like Bollareta (who attacked Gohan) now get some screentime.
It really is going to be a major waste if ANY character in the special is One Punched out by Jiren Just to Hype up his power more and use them as a Foil to show that. I want to see ALL of these remainly fighters Show Some Great Skills and Nice development. As You said Xeogran, for each to them to be useful and show WHY they deserve to have lasted this long!
Not so say either the ones that are Eliminated are not good either, Their are some Great Characters that Have sadly already been elimated but that should not take away from how good they are or for New Characters what they pottentinoally can do. This is a Royal Rumble, not a regular match, you can only go so far in what you can do with these rules in place.
2.) Also on that Note ~~~ While I Greatly don't see this happening, An Elimination of Ribrianne THIS early in the ToP would be a Waste and Make Major little sense with the build-up she has gotten both story-wise and Marketing wise! Also her importance to U2 wise as well. Again this is WAY not likely, but I just wanted to put it out their.
3.) How the Jiren-v-Goku fight goes I am not really interested in that fight or most aspects of it. Only points are NO ONE gets in the way of it to be a Hero, let them duel it out mono-e-mono. Also, Their should be a Good Reason why Goku Uses the Spirit Bomb and how he is able to form it in this Void. I rather not see some plot armor driven reason
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Re: What Do You NOT Want To See in Episodes 109-110?
About half a day to go!
I'll also be disappointed if Goku's new form is achieved like Goten and Trunks (with SS), Kale and Caulifla (with their tingly back forms or Kale's Broly lookalike) and Future Trunks (with his SSR). Those transformations were completely underwhelming, appeared out of nowhere and felt undeserved. Kale's motivation was especially cringeworthy.
Give us something like the original SS, SS2 or SS4! It's time DBS got some original transformations.
I'll also be disappointed if Goku's new form is achieved like Goten and Trunks (with SS), Kale and Caulifla (with their tingly back forms or Kale's Broly lookalike) and Future Trunks (with his SSR). Those transformations were completely underwhelming, appeared out of nowhere and felt undeserved. Kale's motivation was especially cringeworthy.
Give us something like the original SS, SS2 or SS4! It's time DBS got some original transformations.
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Re: What Do You NOT Want To See in Episodes 109-110?
Jiren to continue to have a boring personality. Please, please show me he's got some fun Toriyama-style quirk to him because the show hypes him up like mad but I can't bring myself to care about him.
Where Rosé was a big ham, Jiren's a piece of cardboard on a plate.
There's got to be more to Jiren than this! I don't want him to just be a dbz-movie antagonist.
Where Rosé was a big ham, Jiren's a piece of cardboard on a plate.
There's got to be more to Jiren than this! I don't want him to just be a dbz-movie antagonist.
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Re: What Do You NOT Want To See in Episodes 109-110?
- Naoki Tate's rough art. If I already hate it in normal episodes, in a Special like this its out of question.
- Too many tv breaks/eyecatches, just like One Piece Special. I'm already mentally prepared for this one because it will happen though.
- Too many tv breaks/eyecatches, just like One Piece Special. I'm already mentally prepared for this one because it will happen though.
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Since this tournament started we haven't gotten one high quality fight so I don't want them to waste time here, these 2 need to be an epic Goku vs Jerin fight from start to finish.
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Re: What Do You NOT Want To See in Episodes 109-110?
-Characters lovingly staring at one another for five minutes straight.
-Boring one minute fights.
-Out of place soundtracks.
-Jiren or Goku powering up somehow throws all other contestants out of the arena.
-Genki-dama resembling genki-sword in terms of asspullery.
-Goku's new form resembling Future Trunks' super saiyan demigod super saiyan in terms of asspullery.
-Goku's new form appearing at the end of the "special".
-Everyone not called Goku or Jiren turning into cheerleaders.
-Jiren having the personality of a corpse.
-Piccolo losing more arms, unless he creates a new technique that involves shooting explosive arms.
-Gohan being a retard.
-Vegeta boasting about how badass he is just to be kicked around.
-Tenshinhan.
-Kale.
-Boring one minute fights.
-Out of place soundtracks.
-Jiren or Goku powering up somehow throws all other contestants out of the arena.
-Genki-dama resembling genki-sword in terms of asspullery.
-Goku's new form resembling Future Trunks' super saiyan demigod super saiyan in terms of asspullery.
-Goku's new form appearing at the end of the "special".
-Everyone not called Goku or Jiren turning into cheerleaders.
-Jiren having the personality of a corpse.
-Piccolo losing more arms, unless he creates a new technique that involves shooting explosive arms.
-Gohan being a retard.
-Vegeta boasting about how badass he is just to be kicked around.
-Tenshinhan.
-Kale.
Don't ask for too much.sintzu wrote:Since this tournament started we haven't gotten one high quality fight so I don't want them to waste time here, these 2 need to be an epic Goku vs Jerin fight from start to finish.
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Re: What Do You NOT Want To See in Episodes 109-110?
It seems like asking anything from Super is too much.Torturephile wrote:Don't ask for too much.
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Re: What Do You NOT Want To See in Episodes 109-110?
Yep this one pretty much takes this cake; there some of the worst characters in the history of Dragon Ball. In addition, to the fight being too short like Vegito vs Zamasu, I would also like for the power of these characters to reflect in the fight.SansrivaaL wrote:-Kale and Cauli showing up for even a microsecond.
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Re: What Do You NOT Want To See in Episodes 109-110?
[spoiler]Well, we know that U3 Warriors will try to attack weakened Goku after his fight with Jiren, so they're not getting thrown. We know Monna is staying too.Torturephile wrote:-Jiren or Goku powering up somehow throws all other contestants out of the arena.
I honestly don't think anyone here is going out like that, or at least no more than 1-2 characters.[/spoiler]
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Re: What Do You NOT Want To See in Episodes 109-110?
That is without a doubt my biggest fear. But I have a horrible feeling that Toei may go in that direction to hype up Jiren even more.Xeogran wrote:Any kind of Mass Elimination by Jiren powering up.
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Almost no anime or show is capable of delivering 2 straight episodes of nonstop top tier action animation. We're going to get good action, but expecting it to not take any breaks and be nonstop for two straight episodes is a pipe dream.sintzu wrote:It seems like asking anything from Super is too much.Torturephile wrote:Don't ask for too much.
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Sounds like episode 113/14 is gonna be the worst day of your life.SaiyanGod117 wrote:Yep this one pretty much takes this cake; there some of the worst characters in the history of Dragon Ball. In addition, to the fight being too short like Vegito vs Zamasu, I would also like for the power of these characters to reflect in the fight.SansrivaaL wrote:-Kale and Cauli showing up for even a microsecond.
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I thought Gohan vs Obuni was a great fight from start to finish.sintzu wrote:Since this tournament started we haven't gotten one high quality fight so I don't want them to waste time here, these 2 need to be an epic Goku vs Jerin fight from start to finish.
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