Did the Pioneer staff just redraw Goku and Vegeta for one of their DVD releases?

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Did the Pioneer staff just redraw Goku and Vegeta for one of their DVD releases?

Post by nerdydesi » Mon Jan 01, 2018 6:09 am

I just noticed this while looking at Dragonball Z anime DVDs at my local bookstore. Did the Pioneer staff simply redraw Goku and Vegeta in their base forms for the DVD art cover from the promotional art for Movie 12?


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Re: Did the Pioneer staff just redraw Goku and Vegeta for one of their DVD releases?

Post by KBABZ » Mon Jan 01, 2018 6:49 am

Another possible theory is that at Toei, the art for the first one was done in the appropriate era, then when doing the artwork for Movie 12 that was the one sketched over.

On a similar topic, has there ever been a case of a distributor like Pioneer or FUNi making their own original artwork like that?

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Post by Kuwabara » Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:06 pm

Funimation either had a freelancer or in-house artist draw the cover art for Movies 6, 7, and 8. I forget the artist's name, or if they were even credited.

That same artist also drew the cover art for the first Budokai game, and possibly others.
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Re: Did the Pioneer staff just redraw Goku and Vegeta for one of their DVD releases?

Post by ABED » Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:24 pm

I always loved the box art for the Pioneer releases. I can't imagine it would've been that expensive for FUNi to invest some resources into something like that. Instead, we got awful screenshots.
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Post by KBABZ » Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:32 pm

ABED wrote:I always loved the box art for the Pioneer releases. I can't imagine it would've been that expensive for FUNi to invest some resources into something like that. Instead, we got awful screenshots.
Or even worse... screenshot collages!

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Post by DrBriefsCat » Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:54 pm

KBABZ wrote:On a similar topic, has there ever been a case of a distributor like Pioneer or FUNi making their own original artwork like that?
The cover-art for their original release of Dragon Ball Movie 3 (Mystical Adventure) might have been original: Amazon link

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Post by Super Sonic » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:03 pm

KBABZ wrote:
ABED wrote:I always loved the box art for the Pioneer releases. I can't imagine it would've been that expensive for FUNi to invest some resources into something like that. Instead, we got awful screenshots.
Or even worse... screenshot collages!

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Better both of them than outright lying covers. Look at this cover for a video my dad bought back in 1992:

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One of the four peope on here does not appear at all or is even mentioned, thus confusing my dad when we watched the video. Hence why I'd rather have screenshots than lies.

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Re: Did the Pioneer staff just redraw Goku and Vegeta for one of their DVD releases?

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:05 pm

Super Sonic wrote:
KBABZ wrote:
ABED wrote:I always loved the box art for the Pioneer releases. I can't imagine it would've been that expensive for FUNi to invest some resources into something like that. Instead, we got awful screenshots.
Or even worse... screenshot collages!

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Better both of them than outright lying covers. Look at this cover for a video my dad bought back in 1992:

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One of the four peope on here does not appear at all or is even mentioned, thus confusing my dad when we watched the video. Hence why I'd rather have screenshots than lies.
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Post by Super Sonic » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:09 pm

Yep. My dad bout it thinking it was going to be the good 60s one that he watched as a kid. The back also mentioned Torch being on the team, so it was also lying.

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Post by 8000 Saiyan » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:27 pm

Super Sonic wrote:Yep. My dad bout it thinking it was going to be the good 60s one that he watched as a kid. The back also mentioned Torch being on the team, so it was also lying.
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Post by KBABZ » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:29 pm

DrBriefsCat wrote:
KBABZ wrote:On a similar topic, has there ever been a case of a distributor like Pioneer or FUNi making their own original artwork like that?
The cover-art for their original release of Dragon Ball Movie 3 (Mystical Adventure) might have been original: Amazon link
I don't think so, Goku on the bottom looks just like from the end of the second DB opening:

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It appears that it was flipped, traced over, and the Kame symbol moved (but not resized).

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Re: Did the Pioneer staff just redraw Goku and Vegeta for one of their DVD releases?

Post by Robo4900 » Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:16 am

KBABZ wrote:
DrBriefsCat wrote:
KBABZ wrote:On a similar topic, has there ever been a case of a distributor like Pioneer or FUNi making their own original artwork like that?
The cover-art for their original release of Dragon Ball Movie 3 (Mystical Adventure) might have been original: Amazon link
I don't think so, Goku on the bottom looks just like from the end of the second DB opening:

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It appears that it was flipped, traced over, and the Kame symbol moved (but not resized).
Background image is from a shot from the movie too...

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Re: Did the Pioneer staff just redraw Goku and Vegeta for one of their DVD releases?

Post by ABED » Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:12 am

KBABZ wrote:
ABED wrote:I always loved the box art for the Pioneer releases. I can't imagine it would've been that expensive for FUNi to invest some resources into something like that. Instead, we got awful screenshots.
Or even worse... screenshot collages!

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I wouldn't call that worse. At least there's a modicum of effort there.
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Re: Did the Pioneer staff just redraw Goku and Vegeta for one of their DVD releases?

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:19 am

KBABZ wrote:
ABED wrote:I always loved the box art for the Pioneer releases. I can't imagine it would've been that expensive for FUNi to invest some resources into something like that. Instead, we got awful screenshots.
Or even worse... screenshot collages!

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:38 am

nerdydesi wrote:I just noticed this while looking at Dragonball Z anime DVDs at my local bookstore. Did the Pioneer staff simply redraw Goku and Vegeta in their base forms for the DVD art cover from the promotional art for Movie 12?


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If they did they did a pretty thorough job, not only changing the colour of Goku's gi but also adding the kanji and belt too as well as adding Goku's loose hair strands in base. Top job.

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Post by Ashura » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:28 pm

It's whatever art they were given, cleaned up. The Pioneer discs feels like they exhausted every piece of art they got.

That Dragonball DVD may have sourced the cover from screenshots but they were all redrawn and look fine. Sometimes you don't get tons of art for shows. For our Lupin series 2 covers, we redrew iconic shots from the intro to build it.

https://www.rightstufanime.com/Lupin-Th ... tion-2-DVD

People seem to love those covers and they weren't lazy. They were a lot of work getting an artist (or me) to draw more detailed faces and stuff.

The mysterious adventure cover is a collage, but a good one! They did a good job redoing Goku and putting together a good cover for what they had.
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Re: Did the Pioneer staff just redraw Goku and Vegeta for one of their DVD releases?

Post by jelleline89 » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:36 am

Pioneer also did this for Sailor Moon.

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