Should the DragonBall franchise have a reboot?

[keyz05]

Should the DragonBall franchise have a reboot? Like, the characters are more stronger now and I feel like the writers(as well as Toriyama himself) might be running out of ideas, and they may decide to rush the ending of Super more and that's that. Like, this here is how Super ended and we are now done with the canon arc of DragonBall for good. I mean, after all, the stakes of the series has been raised to much bigger extent to what it was before in Z, now-a-days.

To me, I agree that a reboot should happen. It gives fanfic writers the freedom to do what they want with the current arc of the series, outside of the now rebooted arc that is announced and would be made to be canon. But I would still go for the canon arc, nevertheless. What does anyone else think of this idea?

[sintzu]

That's a hard question to answer now because there are still unresolved plot points in the current story like the other 4 universes which are stronger than the 8 ones we've seen and there's that Sadal visit that's come up at least 2-3 times. Also take into account the possibility of something completely unrelated happening like Zamasu or what paths the new movie may open up. There's also those stories heroes is doing that elements could be turned into "canon" stories. You've also got GT's timeline that may be changed to fit within the current one.

Once that's all taken care of then why not just leave the franchise alone and move on ? what'll be the point of redoing everything when we've seen it already ?

[SuperCyan2]

Another reboot? I'd agree.

Get rid of Sumitomo, the crappy Dragon Ball Super-style of series, the whole senseless evolutions, transformations, shitty looking characters (Jiren) and the titles (e.g. below) given and back to the origins of Dragon Ball. Like, how Dragon Ball Z was!

For example, I forget what's the official term for Super Saiyan Blue because it's so ridiculous.

[keyz05]

That's a hard question to answer now because there are still unresolved plot points in the current story like the other 4 universes which are stronger than the 8 ones we've seen and there's that Sadal visit that's come up at least 2-3 times. Also take into account the possibility of something completely unrelated happening like Zamasu or what paths the new movie may open up. There's also those stories heroes is doing that elements could be turned into "canon" stories. You've also got GT's timeline that may be changed to fit within the current one.

Once that's all taken care of then why not just leave the franchise alone and move on ? what'll be the point of redoing everything when we've seen it already ?

I guess we might get a better and re improvised story for the series now that it's in Toriyama's hands to reboot or just downright rewrite the entire franchise all for himself. I like DBZ and Super, but I feel with all these newer ideas fleshed out the bin, it's time for a conclusion to Super and the series whole. Maybe someday, hopefully, the franchise will get rebooted. Whether by Toriyama or not, is not clear. But I am hoping for it to happen still, nevertheless. It gives fanfic writers the freedom they choose what they want for the series continuum.

[TheGreatness25]

Man, what a can of worms that would open up. People are already way too obsessed with what's canon and what's not.

I don't think that the Dragon Ball franchise needs a reboot. Not a reboot, anyway. I think the story should be concluded and that's that. But, I do feel that there could be spin-offs. Dragon World is pretty large, so spin-offs would be completely possible. For example, the Saiyan spin-off (like the Bardock specials and even the upcoming movie) would work. A Muten Roshi training Son Gohan and Ox King spin-off could work. A post-GT spin-off could work. Reboot, though? No, thanks. I feel like there's already way too much Dragon Ball content out there, that if I wanted to subject myself to more, I'd rather it be something completely different with a tiny little touch of familiarity. I would want different characters, different scenarios, and something just completely different. I'm tired of the super power-up transformation fighting at light-speeds type of formula. And yet, I wouldn't want to "relive" any part of the story told in a different way. The Dragon Ball movies always bugged me for it.

[sintzu]

That's a hard question to answer now because there are still unresolved plot points in the current story like the other 4 universes which are stronger than the 8 ones we've seen and there's that Sadal visit that's come up at least 2-3 times. Also take into account the possibility of something completely unrelated happening like Zamasu or what paths the new movie may open up. There's also those stories heroes is doing that elements could be turned into "canon" stories. You've also got GT's timeline that may be changed to fit within the current one.

Once that's all taken care of then why not just leave the franchise alone and move on ? what'll be the point of redoing everything when we've seen it already ?

I guess we might get a better and re improvised story for the series now that it's in Toriyama's hands to reboot or just downright rewrite the entire franchise all for himself. I like DBZ and Super, but I feel with all these newer ideas fleshed out the bin, it's time for a conclusion to Super and the series whole. Maybe someday, hopefully, the franchise will get rebooted. Whether by Toriyama or not, is not clear. But I am hoping for it to happen still, nevertheless. It gives fanfic writers the freedom they choose what they want for the series continuum.

What I like most about anime is the legacy the long ones have. When you look at DB when it started with Goku living alone and where he is now in the tournament, there's a sense of a lifetime these characters have gone through but if you reboot it then you'll lose all the development and events they went through.

[keyz05]

Another reboot? I'd agree.

Get rid of Sumitomo, the crappy Dragon Ball Super-style of series, the whole senseless evolutions, transformations, shitty looking characters (Jiren) and the titles (e.g. below) given and back to the origins of Dragon Ball. Like, how Dragon Ball Z was!

For example, I forget what's the official term for Super Saiyan Blue because it's so ridiculous.

Hey, wait. Why do you hate the design of Jiren so much? I have no complaints over that.

And like you said, I want the series to be like what Dragon Ball Z was. Get rid of the unnecessary power ups that feel rushed or to serve a purpose to keep the plot going, and the origins of Dragon Ball. Or make a new series starring Beat from Heroes as the protagonist from now on! It makes things a whole lot better me, honestly.

[keyz05]

That's a hard question to answer now because there are still unresolved plot points in the current story like the other 4 universes which are stronger than the 8 ones we've seen and there's that Sadal visit that's come up at least 2-3 times. Also take into account the possibility of something completely unrelated happening like Zamasu or what paths the new movie may open up. There's also those stories heroes is doing that elements could be turned into "canon" stories. You've also got GT's timeline that may be changed to fit within the current one.

Once that's all taken care of then why not just leave the franchise alone and move on ? what'll be the point of redoing everything when we've seen it already ?

I guess we might get a better and re improvised story for the series now that it's in Toriyama's hands to reboot or just downright rewrite the entire franchise all for himself. I like DBZ and Super, but I feel with all these newer ideas fleshed out the bin, it's time for a conclusion to Super and the series whole. Maybe someday, hopefully, the franchise will get rebooted. Whether by Toriyama or not, is not clear. But I am hoping for it to happen still, nevertheless. It gives fanfic writers the freedom they choose what they want for the series continuum.

What I like most about anime is the legacy the long ones have. When you look at DB when it started with Goku living alone and where he is now in the tournament, there's a sense of a lifetime these characters have gone through but if you reboot it then you'll lose all the development and events they went through.

True... But I(as well as other people I met before on DeviantART) honestly feel like this series has gone on for way too long. I mean, we have our characters at the highest strength level out of any other character in the series. Yet, all these transformations, these new concepts, characters, and plot lines that supposed to follow the story of another character. All feel like it's reached the peak of the tallest mountain in the world. It still doesn't make sense for the series to keep on going after a long and exhausting battles over characters that choose to reach their strength level over maximum as good tactic against stronger others, but they fall nevertheless. It makes me want to give up now because there isn't anything to counter Goku, Vegeta, and the rest of the Z Warriors.

[ABED]

Nope. I see no point in a reboot. Let it end with dignity. A good ending is undervalued.

[sangofe]

Another reboot? I'd agree.

Get rid of Sumitomo, the crappy Dragon Ball Super-style of series, the whole senseless evolutions, transformations, shitty looking characters (Jiren) and the titles (e.g. below) given and back to the origins of Dragon Ball. Like, how Dragon Ball Z was!

For example, I forget what's the official term for Super Saiyan Blue because it's so ridiculous.

Hey, wait. Why do you hate the design of Jiren so much? I have no complaints over that.

And like you said, I want the series to be like what Dragon Ball Z was. Get rid of the unnecessary power ups that feel rushed or to serve a purpose to keep the plot going, and the origins of Dragon Ball. Or make a new series starring Beat from Heroes as the protagonist from now on! It makes things a whole lot better me, honestly.

So you want a show where characters look and stare at each other for multiple episodes? Or power ups last entire episodes? Because, save the Saiyan arc, that's what DBZ sadly was a lot of the time.

[GamerSkull]

I'd say a remake would be cool. Go back and re-animate the stuff of the past to look more like today.

However, I feel like even that would ruin the charm of the original animation... and also Toei would probably screw up the animation because of budget.

[sintzu]

I honestly feel like this series has gone on for way too long. All feel like it's reached the peak of the tallest mountain in the world.

It does which is why I don't think Toriyama will be writing forever as I think he has an endgame in mind for everything once the anime returns or maybe even in a future movie afterwards. Once Toriyama reaches his conclusion I think the franchise should just be left alone as there'll be more than enough existing content to keep the franchise.

The only reboot I wouldn't mind is if they decided to redo the manga in a seasonal format but with how merchandise drivin the franchise is, I'm not sure it'll be worth the cost.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I'd say a remake would be cool. Go back and re-animate the stuff of the past to look more like today.

However, I feel like even that would ruin the charm of the original animation... and also Toei would probably screw up the animation because of budget.

Budget wouldn't be an issue especially for the likes of Toei. As always good production schedule and good staff is what primarily matters. Toei are currently paying two or sometimes three animation supervisors per episode for DBS that isn't cheap on top of all the other animators on the episode on the flip side One Piece has a good production schedule and thus usually only has one supervisor per episode and is probably costing them less to produce.

[sintzu]

One thing they could do once Toriyama is done are character/mythology related stories. It could be called DB legends and every 5 or so episodes can be about a completely different thing. The first 5 episodes could be about Freeza's race while the next 5 about how u11's heroes came to be and so on. This way they can keep the franchise alive without adding completely new stories but they'll still have new content to use. in other words they'll be able to have their cake and eat it too

Toei are currently paying two or sometimes three animation supervisors per episode for DBS that isn't cheap on top of all the other animators on the episode on the flip side One Piece has a good production schedule and thus usually only has one supervisor per episode and is probably costing them less to produce.

This is another reason why super may be ending as that could help them get it on the same page as one piece or at lease similar.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Toei are currently paying two or sometimes three animation supervisors per episode for DBS that isn't cheap on top of all the other animators on the episode on the flip side One Piece has a good production schedule and thus usually only has one supervisor per episode and is probably costing them less to produce.

This is another reason why super may be ending as that could help them get it on the same page as one piece or at lease similar.

They couldn't keep DBS going at the rate it was with it's production issues so when an opportunity came to end or put it on temporary halt they took it.

[SuperCyan2]

Hey, wait. Why do you hate the design of Jiren so much? I have no complaints over that.

And like you said, I want the series to be like what Dragon Ball Z was. Get rid of the unnecessary power ups that feel rushed or to serve a purpose to keep the plot going, and the origins of Dragon Ball. Or make a new series starring Beat from Heroes as the protagonist from now on! It makes things a whole lot better me, honestly.

Jiren has no personality, everything about him relies on how strong he is and to me, Jiren looks like a huge cockroach.

How we went from creative villain character designs of Freeza, Cell, Majin Boo and now to Jiren.. that I do not know. I just don't get why he's so popular and people are so hyped for him.

[KBABZ]

I disagree on a reboot, or remaking old stuff actually (the industry is very different today, it would in no way feel the same outside of "this event happens! again!"). In a way Dragon Ball is fluid enough that it can reboot itself simply by taking its next arc in an unexpected direction.

[Kuwabara]

Quite frankly, I'd be pissed if there was a "reboot" before a proper, readily available home video collection of Z was released.

[Bruma rabu]

Hmm i don't think it needs a reboot, I think a remake would be better. I also think this would be a good chance for the Japanese voice cast to be changed. Blasphemous I know.

[Robo4900]

IMO, the only value a remake or a reboot could bring is if it told a new story with the characters and world we know and love, which is what the movies are for, -- before Battle Of Gods, at least -- so it would be rather pointless, in my view.