Predicting The End of Dragon Ball Super

[shadowmaria]

So I figured as we enter the final month of Dragon Ball Super's current Japanese airing, I thought what might be nice to do is try and predict how exactly the series will end, and see who has the most correct prediction come March 25th!

Spoiler:

Universe 7 will win the Tournament of Power with Frieza being the last man standing. Overjoyed that he has the wish, he declares his intent and prepares to make the wish when his time in the mortal plane expires and he is returned to his personal Hell.
Goku gets the wish, and wishes back all erased parties from the Tournament of Power (universes, Frost, etc.) Everyone returns to their own universe.
On Earth, Shenron is used to revive #17, and everyone goes their separate ways. Time passes, and Goku suits up in his EoZ gi and enters the 28th World Martial Arts Tournament.
Beerus goes back to sleep, and Whis talks with the Oracle Fish about what lies ahead for Goku and his friends. Cue montage of EoZ and Dragon Ball GT

Spoiler:

cut to EoGT with Goku on Shenron's back, falling asleep and disappearing, reawakening in Beerus' palace for further additional training

[Lek]

Alright, this seems like a fun topic

Spoiler:

Ultra Instinct Goku and Jiren will have an awesome fight but end up being on par. Freeza, who tried to stay hidden to score the win, will succumb to a ringout. Due to a technicality, Jiren will be declared victorious. Goku, being best buddies with Zeno, will ask them to wait a little bit with the erasure of Universe 7, since he wants to see what Jiren's wish will be.
To everyones surprise, Jiren asks the dragon for all godly energy (aka God Ki) to be removed. This causes Zeno to lose his abilities, leaving the angels as the strongest beings. The Gods of Destruction will lose their ability to use Hakai. The saiyans will no longer be able to use Super Saiyan God or Super Saiyan Blue, possibly also making it really difficult for Goku to use Ultra Instict on purpose.

Then Jiren turns to Universe 7. Having stopped the Zenos from erasing any more universes, he asks Goku to collect their Dragon Balls to wish for the Super Dragon Balls to be brought to Universe 11 once they reactivate. Doing this, they will be able to collect the Super Dragon Balls, now scattered in U11 instead of U6+U7, after some time has passed.

-timeskip-

Universe 11. The Super Dragon Balls are active again. Jirens calls forth the dragon and wishes for all the universes that Zeno destroyed (yes, I know, phrasing) to be restored.
A couple more wishes on the Earth's and Namek's dragons to bring back our lost ones. Beerus, still a God of Destruction, but basically without a job now, decides to go back to sleep for a couple of decades.

-timeskip-

End of Z playing out as we know it, with a short clip showing Beerus asleep and Whis learning to cook for himself.

Spoiler:

Without undoing Super, something along these lines would leave the possibility to go right into GT as well as a completely new route. Beerus and Whis are beloved characters, so there's no way they will be completely removed from the franchise at this point. Beerus being asleep might however be a way to have him out of commission for a little while.

The angels being the strongest beings in all of creation will be exactly what the Grand Priest intended from the very beginning. This could either spin into him being good and having wanted a way to prevent Zeno from causing more chaos or it could turn out he was the big bad that killed Jiren's loved ones to set him on this path in the first place. All according to keikaku...

The phrasing would restore all the universes destroyed by Zeno, including the ones that got destroyed before the Tournament of Power, opening up new possibilities for later iterations of the show.
Whether this would bring back Zamasu in any way, shape or form could be left unclear. He is a liked villain at this point, so they could use him some more later on. Or it could be explained that future Zeno has destroyed the universes in another timeline, thus they are not brought back by the wish.

[obiwan23s]

Might have gotten a little carried away but I like what I came up with...

Spoiler:

Jiren powers up to his full power and hits UI Omen Goku with an attack so strong it triggers Goku's Mastered UI transformation. Mastered UI Goku is stronger than Full Power Jiren, but only by a little bit (think SS Goku vs Full Power Freeza on Namek). They have an epic duel, but in a somewhat out of character twist for Goku, he seizes a moment to knock Jiren off the stage instead of stretching the fight out as long as possible to enjoy it like he usually does. Jiren is eliminated and Universe 11 erased. Goku reverts to his base form and cannot even stand up. Using Mastered Ultra Instinct, even for one minute, has eliminated his stamina completely. The Grand Priest declares Universe 7 the winner and calls Goku to come make his wish. Freeza appears and says he'll carry Goku to the Zenos so he can make his wish to the Super Dragon Balls, but throws his body off the stage when he gets close enough, using the "Oops my hand slipped" line one more time. Freeza goes to the Zenos and demands to make his wish as the last man standing, but the Zenos say they don't like him and since he threw Goku out on purpose, he can't have the wish and besides, he got his ass kicked by Jiren and Goku really won. Freeza gets pissed, turns into his Golden from and attacks the Zenos, but they erase him like they did to Frost. Freeza is gone forever. The Universe 7 team gives Goku a senzu bean and then they summon the dragon. Goku asks the Super Dragon to "bring back all the universes that were erased today". The Dragon says he can't do that because Zeno-sama will not allow it. Goku appeals to the Zenos about it, asking them if they enjoyed the fights they saw today. They say they have never had this much fun before. Goku says yeah me too, and suggests they hold this tournament again in 5 years, so that each universe's best fighters can train and all kinds of new strong people they've never seen before will appear, and that all the people training for the tournament would raise the level of the universes so they wouldn't need to be erased next time. He finishes by saying it might be even more fun than this tournament! The Zenos agree and restore all the Universes to life. Everyone that participated in the tournament is brought back to the World of Void and are understandably confused about why they are back. The Grand Priest explains that Goku was able to convince the Zenos to undo the erasing of the universes and that a new tournament will be held in 5 years time. However, since the Zenos brought the universes back themselves, nobody actually made a wish to the Super Dragon and he politely asks if they would speed things up so he can go back to sleep. Beerus says I like the way this guy thinks. Goku decides that since Zeno gave him what he was going to wish for, he doesn't need anything, turns toward Universe 11 and says "Hey Jiren, you can have my wish!" Jiren comes up and doesn't really know what to say, Goku says just get stronger and come fight me again in 5 years. Jiren wishes everyone the evil-doer killed in Universe 11 back to life, and promptly goes home to be with his friends. Vegeta and Cabbe have a moment, so do Goku and Caulifla. #18 is looking around for #17 and can't find him. Whis says that because he actually died and wasn't erased, they will have to bring him back with the Earth's Dragon Balls. Everyone returns to Universe 7 and splits up. Beerus stops Goku before he leaves and offers him the Universe 7 God of Destruction job if he wants it, saying that since he's mastered Ultra Instinct he's probably stronger than Beerus now. Goku declines the offer but says he wants a rematch with Beerus sometime, then flies away. There's a timeskip, and Goku goes to visit Gohan, Videl and Pan. Mr. Satan is at their house too and talks about getting ready for the 25th Tenkaichi Budoukai to defend his title as the champion. He jokes about it being nice if Goku stayed home that day and Goku says he's probably too strong for the Tenkaichi Budoukai now. Pan says she wants to fight in the tournament, and Videl says she can't because there's no more junior division and she's too young. Mr. Satan says I don't know, this little kid from the countryside who is somehow very strong for his age has already entered the tournament. Goku says that must be the kid Dende told him about and that he's going to enter too. Goku says he'll train Pan and they go off to train. Mr. Satan is very concerned he won't be able to defend his title now. End of Dragon Ball Super.

[Extreme_kai]

I made a thread about mine but I'll drop it here.
[spoiler]I've been pondering about the end of Super a lot recently, and I came up with my own Theory/Opinion on how the ToP should wrap up. First I want to discuss Freeza and his inclusion in the Tournament. I don't see any reason why they would bother bringing Freeza back a second time in super unless, he will get wished back, or is Permanently Erased. Sending him back to Hell at this point is pointless to me. He's shown himself to be unremorseful and unwilling to repent, the threat of him being resurrected by a zealot again will forever be a looming threat in the series. I don't think Freeza will be erased cause of his popularity as a character, if he was to go out permanently they should save it for something more spectacular which I will get into later.

So, on to who will be the winner of ToP. I do think there will most likely have to be double elimination for this to work.Initially, I had a theory that UI Goku would lose to Jiren, leaving only Freeza in the ring for U7. The last few seconds of the tournament would have Freeza getting wailed on mercilessly by Jiren, he'll fight his hardest to stay in the ring. The time limit will end it in a tie leaving the Zeno's and the grand priest to choose a winner. It's still possible that they could look at Freeza's determination and the overall performance of U7 team(17's sacrifice) and give the wish to them instead, but that's up in the air. Either way, Freeza will be the winner of ToP because there would be no reason to have him around this long or bring him back at all If he didn't. I feel like my original way for Freeza to win would give him some redemption in the eyes of his U7 companions, the viewers and most importantly Beerus. Another positive would be Goku not winning for once, this would throw a wrench in the Goku always wins formula. Goku losing to Jiren would give him more motivation to train harder and hone his UI.

So on to what Freeza's wish will be. Number one, I don't think the erased universes will have to be wished back. The grand priest will bring them all back, explaining that he only made the stakes so high to get the best performance out of the fighters. He may make an ominous threat that next time it will be permanent to get the universes motivated to train harder. Back to Freeza, I know a lot of people are saying Freeza would wish for himself to be stronger than the angels and Zeno, I don't think he would be stupid enough to attempt something like that in front of Zeno. If he did that would be grounds for erasure, and it probably won't even work, because I'm sure someone like Zamasu/Black would have tried it. I think even if he tried he wouldn't be able to wish himself god tier until he was alive first, so his only option is to wish himself back. Beerus will take notice of Freeza's ability to control Hakai energy, plus his performance in the tournament and take him on as an apprentice. This way he can stay alive and still have at least the promise of being next in line for God of destruction. Freeza is not like Vegeta or Piccolo, he can't go to earth and be a goody-two-shoes or even a friendly rival. He's not happy unless he has power and control, the possibility of becoming a Hakaioshin is the upper crust for a mortal. Let's be real, Freeza out of all the known characters in U7 would be the best fit for God of destruction. I think that's where we will end off will Freeza at the end of the ToP arc. I do think we will get at least one more Arc of super after the hiatus which I will go into next.[/spoiler]

[Goku1000]

I don't think much is going to happen now since only 3 more episodes are left... but I would I have liked if the grand priest and all angels somehow became evil and Goku and jiren would have to work together. That would have been my ideal plot for an ending.

[Marlowe89]

This is the general prediction I've had on my mind concerning Frieza:

[spoiler]Frieza is the last fighter to remain standing as Goku and Jiren both lose in a stalemate. As promised, he gets to make a wish using the Super Dragon Balls. To everyone's surprise, the wish is to revive all the universes that perished during the ToP. Frieza's reasoning here is that there's no point in ruling over all these universes if there are only a few of them remaining. He plans to overthrow the gods one day, and this is only the first step.

Back on Earth, Goku fulfills his end of the bargain and revives Frieza using the Dragon Balls. As everyone prepares to fight Frieza, Frieza admits that he's no match for Goku and Vegeta the way they are now -- he promises to return to Earth in the future to exact his revenge after he becomes strong enough to defeat them, and then departs from the planet. Goku is likewise excited to fight him again one day.[/spoiler]

And a small prediction concerning Jiren:

[spoiler]Although I don't think he'll win, the wish he'd planned to make was to revive his lost comrades.[/spoiler]

It'll be interesting to see what actually happens though.