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What is your favorite gi that Goku wears throughout the whole series?
Beginning of Dragon Ball gi
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Red Ribbon and Piccolo Daimao arc gi
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23rd TB, Saiyan, and Namek arc gi
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Cell and Boo arc gi
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End of Z gi
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Resurrection F gi
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Dragon Ball GT gi
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I didn't get too specific with the different kanjis Goku wears on his Saiyan and Freeza arc gi, but if you have a favorite, feel free to specify. My favorite would probably be his GT gi, I just with we could've seen some adult Goku in GT.
I'd like to make a variation here: my favourite gi is the one Goku wears during the Red Ribbon/Daimao era... in the anime. I personally like the redder tones, no undershirt, black belt, and the yellow patch shading seen there, and by comparison the manga-accurate "Z-style" gi can often be shaded too bright like he's a construction worker. Plus of course the association with a core pillar of my nostalgic childhood, heheh.
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I like Son Gokus turtle school Gis with kanjis the most, but as my favorite of them i would choose the "23rd Tenkaichi - training for the Cyborgs Gi" where I like the variant without the weights the most which looks for me the best, but the variant with undershirt, bracelets & boots is not bad either. As for the kanjis, i would say i like the "Kame Kaio" combi the most, since its a honor to both of his masters. After that comes the classic "Kame kanji" and then the "Go kanji", which is also not bad and a nice progression of this Gi.
As my second favorite i would choose the "21st Tankaichi - earthern Gods lookout Gi". Just the classic "Kame Gi" with just normal braclets and small shoes. I would have liked it, if Goku returned later in the Buu Arc to a adult sized version of this original "Kame Gi".
At third place, there is the "Go Kanji Gi" with the non ribbon belt from Battle of Gods/DB Super Anime. Its just the "Cell/Buu Arc Gi" with Kanji, but I prefer it that way, way more. Sadly this Gi didn´t apear in the original Series.
The fourth place would be a tie between the "Beginning, End of DB & GT Gi". I like it that Son Goku has in the beginning a different kanjiless Gi, before he is a turtle school pupil. I also like it that he has a kind of similar Gi at the end of the Story, which makes for a good bookend. His "GT Gi" is pretty much the same exept for the suddenly yellow pants.
The fith place goes to the "Resurection of F/Whis training Gi". At first I didn´t liked it, that the Gi from Battle of Gods was replaced with this one, but luckly the "BOG Gi" returned later. Its still a somewhat "turtle school styled Gi" and I like it that it got Whis symbol on it and that it looks kind of similar to the original "Kame Gi". But I miss the white circles for the symbol, and this Gi would rank higher if it still had those.
My least favorite is the "Cyborg - Kid Buu Battle Gi", which is a step backwards in my opinion from Gokus previous Gis. The alteration of the belt is okay, but the removel of the kanjis makes this variation of the "turtle school Gi", pretty much empty and removes mostly any uniqueness it had before. Its sadly the version of the "Kame Gi" that Son Gohan uses later on and its also a bummer that Toyotaro still uses this version for the DB Super Manga, instead of the superior "Go Kanji" variant from the Super Anime.
Analytic wrote:
Resurrection F gi
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Always my answer
Whis' mark was not there, because he hadn't yet drawn it on their outfits. After this training scene is over, they are sporting it.
Pisses me the fuck off, that Toriyama or whoever is obsessed with Goku's look from the Freeza Arc to the point they are willing to throw away the new for the old, yuck!
Dragon Ball Heroes at least does the outfit justice and found a way to work in a blue undershirt: Press for bigger image
GT > Red Ribbon/Piccolo > Cell/Boo > End of Z > Resurrection F > 23rd Tenkaichi/Saiyan/Namek > Beginning
I like them all, but my preferences are pretty clear.
I also really wish Super had stuck with the Resurrection F gi permanently after he switched to it in the RF arc; it was a really cool change-up, and it continues his trend of changing up his gi a little whenever he takes a new teacher, and aside from its colouring, it looks very similar to the "End of Z" gi, so it's a really cool setup for that.
I really love how the GT gi looks; it's basically a slight evolution of the "End of Z" gi, with most of the changes being to give it the unique GT flavour. In theory, the colours are really oddball choices, but surprisingly, they work perfectly. And I dunno if it's just me, but I always thought the look slightly harkens back to the beginning gi, which I thought was a nice touch, given the whole setup of GT's first arc.
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The Boo arc one. And I love that great panel with a full shot of Gohan when he also gets it. I think the Kanji should not be on Goku's gi and you always notice it in the show that its is too much effort to draw it all the time when the part with the Kanji "suddenly" gets destroyed. I mean, there are shots of Goku's gi where exactl only that one back part is destroyed when it comes to the whole backside of his outfit. What a coincidence.
The only one I like more is Black's but he is an imposter, so ...
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dbgtFO wrote:Dragon Ball Heroes at least does the outfit justice and found a way to work in a blue undershirt:
Wow they also brought back the circles, its pretty much an improvement over the original version. I woulden´t mind if this version of "Whis Gi" would become Gokus regular uniform, minus the undershirt, since I prefer "Whis Gi" without it.
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I always thought his blue outfit from the start of the series was cute. Didn't mind the 10th anniversary movie version either which I believe was also from GT.
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Gligarman wrote:I always thought his blue outfit from the start of the series was cute. Didn't mind the 10th anniversary movie version either which I believe was also from GT.
That's a bit of a trick answer! When Bulma first meets Goku, he's in the classic blue gi from the start of the story. However when he gets ready to head off with her, he changes into the GT outfit, with the pink wrist bands, lighter shirt, baggy yellow pants and different shoes.
Toss up for me between 23rd TB - Freeza and Cell - Boo.
That being said though, I genuinely like all of them. Goku's never really had a bad dogi design, ever. Can't think of any DB characters off the top of my head who have really.
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Zephyr wrote:And that's to say nothing of how pretty much impossible it is to capture what made the original run of the series so great. I'm in the generation of fans that started with Toonami, so I totally empathize with the feeling of having "missed the party", experiencing disappointment, and wanting to experience it myself. But I can't, that's how life is. Time is a bitch. The party is over. Kageyama, Kikuchi, and Maeda are off the sauce now; Yanami almost OD'd; Yamamoto got arrested; Toriyama's not going to light trash cans on fire and hang from the chandelier anymore. We can't get the band back together, and even if we could, everyone's either old, in poor health, or calmed way the fuck down. Best we're going to get, and are getting, is a party that's almost entirely devoid of the magic that made the original one so awesome that we even want more.
Kamiccolo9 wrote:It grinds my gears that people get "outraged" over any of this stuff. It's a fucking cartoon. If you are that determined to be angry about something, get off the internet and make a stand for something that actually matters.
Rocketman wrote:"Shonen" basically means "stupid sentimental shit" anyway, so it's ok to be anti-shonen.
23rd BT/Saiyan/Namek gi is the one I've grown accustomed to. I really like all of Goku gi's, to be honest though.
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Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
I like the Saiyan arc gi with the Kamesennin symbol on the front and Kaio-sama's symbol on the back.
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