Majin Vegeta Turning to Stone

DaemonCorps · Post by **DaemonCorps** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:30 pm

Was it ever explained why Vegeta turned to stone after blowing himself up to try and kill Buu?

I'm guessing the technical answer was that Toriyama was trying to be consistent with that Saga's level of um... "mystical-ness" (I mean, this is the same Saga that had Fusion, an evil wizard, and the Z-Sword). And my guess for the in-world explanation is that Vegeta was under Babidi's control (not really, but he still had the Majin symbol on his head) but was able to resist it, causing some kind of reaction that um... turned him to stone.

Maphisto86 · Post by **Maphisto86** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:40 pm

At first I was confused when I saw Vegeta turn to stone. I was under the impression that he would have blown himself to pieces or vaporized in the conflagoration that he created. Instead he turns to stone and falls to the ground shattering. I don't know if it has anything to do with his possesion by Babidi.

My theory is that Vegeta didn't "self destruct" but rather used all of his ki and I mean ALL of it. In Dragonball's reality ki is your lifeforce and you only have so much to spare for flying, firing energy blasts, and the like. In Vegeta's case he used every ounch of his ki energy to destroy Buu. Once all the ki was expended from his body he was no longer an organic thing but now a hunk of stone. I know it's somewhat of a geuss on my part but I'm going on what I know concerning "ki". Personally if I where Mr. Toryiama I would have just made Vegeta's pale corpse drop to the ground rather than confusing us with the "AHH I looked at Medusa!" trick.

DaemonCorps · Post by **DaemonCorps** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:31 pm

Maphisto86 wrote:Personally if I where Mr. Toryiama I would have just made Vegeta's pale corpse drop to the ground rather than confusing us with the "AHH I looked at Medusa!" trick.

That would've been an interesting version of that scene. It would've been pretty graphic, though (at least if you have Vegeta looking all dried up and nasty looking). I mean, the closest thing we get to overly graphic (in my opinion) are the the Cell Jr.s' "flying brains" courtesy of SSJ2 Gohan.

Though that still leaves the question of why Vegeta's clothes turned to stone along with him.

Domon · Post by **Domon** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:37 pm

I don't think there's any real reason for it other than "it looked cool/dramatic". Sometimes, you have to accept that kind of thinking. After all, it is just a cartoon...

DaemonCorps · Post by **DaemonCorps** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:41 pm

Domon wrote:I don't think there's any real reason for it other than "it looked cool/dramatic". Sometimes, you have to accept that kind of thinking. After all, it is just a cartoon...

I know that. I was just wondering if people wanted to elaborate with their own ideas.

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:46 pm

Stone? Wouldn't that be ash?

Domon · Post by **Domon** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:50 pm

DaemonCorps wrote:
Domon wrote:I don't think there's any real reason for it other than "it looked cool/dramatic". Sometimes, you have to accept that kind of thinking. After all, it is just a cartoon...
I know that. I was just wondering if people wanted to elaborate with their own ideas.

Well, I'm afraid I don't have any ideas to give out. Vegeta's attack... drained him of all his energy and bodily fuilds, turning him into stone? There's no real logic or science to it, and I'm not sure how one fan theory will make "more sense" than another. So I just don't bother thinking about it.

But hey, don't mind me...

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:52 pm

Olivier Hague wrote:Stone? Wouldn't that be ash?

It dissolved too easily to be stone. Probably was ash.

Daburcor · Post by **Daburcor** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:59 pm

Olivier Hague wrote:Stone? Wouldn't that be ash?

My thoughts exctly.. Except mine were more on the mean side.

Steven Perry · Post by **Steven Perry** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 5:15 pm

Maybe the intense blast vapourised all of the water within that area, including all of it from his body... leaving him with a body mainly composed of carbon?

Okay, okay... that sounded dumb.

Tyro · Post by **Tyro** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 5:35 pm

I was always under the impression that Vegeta releasing his ki so quickly into one giant "blast" caused him to become stone.

As you have seen with Cell while draining someone's ki slowly they merely just fall apart and cease to exist at all.

That's my take on it anyway.

The Chibi Kiriyama · Post by **The Chibi Kiriyama** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 5:45 pm

I agree with Tyro on this matter. When Cell slowly drained people of chi, we see them shrivel up and evaporate/ disappear. When Vegeta uses everything he has in terms of chi on Boo, he turns to stone. Both outcomes involve death due to a loss of the body's chi down to the last drop.

Mr.Piccolo · Post by **Mr.Piccolo** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 5:56 pm

What about Mr.Chaozu or the sabiamen; their explosions didn't have an effect like Vegeta's. Mabye Toriyama just wanted Vegeta death to be as epic as his previous one.

-rick

DaemonCorps · Post by **DaemonCorps** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:01 pm

Mr.Piccolo wrote:What about Mr.Chaozu or the sabiamen; their explosions didn't have an effect like Vegeta's. Mabye Toriyama just wanted Vegeta death to be as epic as his previous one.

-rick

... otherwise you would end up not feeling for the guy's death much or at all (like a certain bald guy's deaths).

goku 333 · Post by **goku 333** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:29 pm

Well when Vegeta was about to blow himself up he seemed to know about it, perhaps he knew about this because it might have been inside every Saiyajin like a last resort, so all of the Saiyajin on the old planet Vegeta knew about it but feared to use it and left it only as a last resort.
Maybe it has something to do with the Saiyajin genetic structure, them being a warrior race so they could die instead of surrendering.

Bura · Post by **Bura** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:07 pm

I also always thought that Vegeta turned into ashes rather than stone. It would make more sense, since the blast was probably very hot and all. And he was at the center...

Eclipse · Post by **Eclipse** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:14 pm

In GT, SSJ4 Goku used a similar manouever on that last dragon (whatever his name is), mentioning that Vegeta had once used it on Majin Buu. Gohan then said something about how Goku was converting all his energy into Ki, and blah blah blah.

I think the same thing happened here. Vegeta simply converted all his energy into ki and simply just let it out. When there was nothing left, he simply became a stone figure (It can be ashes, stone, whatever).

And I know the things explained in GT aren't exactly canon. I'm just trying to prove a point =P

BrollysKin · Post by **BrollysKin** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:29 pm

I thought it happened because he used ALL of his ki. Thus making him become no more than ash/carbon which we originated from.

zoiozazu · Post by **zoiozazu** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:55 pm

BrollysKin wrote:I thought it happened because he used ALL of his ki. Thus making him become no more than ash/carbon which we originated from.

Thats a fine thought.

JAKEMAN · Post by **JAKEMAN** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:56 pm

Well they were in the middle of a generic desert it could have been a dust cloud, I always thought that the pressure made by the explosion caused a casing around Vegeta's body and at the second he exploded it formed a perfect cast.

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