Dragon Ball Full Color Manga online

[Young-Jah]

Is there a site that has the Dragon Ball Full Color Manga Cell & Buu arc?

If so, send me a link anybody?

[Robo4900]

While you can get the Saiyan and Freeza arcs in full colour as a part of Viz's Shonen Jump service for $2 a month, Viz haven't actually licensed the Cell, Boo, "Boyhood", or Piccolo arcs at all. It seems the licensing is just too awkward for them, since they have to license each arc separately.

So, you don't really have any options other than the standard editions.

For the record, I don't think there are even any pirate versions that put the Viz translation on the Full Colour Cell and Boo arcs, either, so even those who are looking to go that route will come up empty.

[Young-Jah]

While you can get the Saiyan and Freeza arcs in full colour as a part of Viz's Shonen Jump service for $2 a month, Viz haven't actually licensed the Cell, Boo, "Boyhood", or Piccolo arcs at all. It seems the licensing is just too awkward for them, since they have to license each arc separately.

So, you don't really have any options other than the standard editions.

For the record, I don't think there are even any pirate versions that put the Viz translation on the Full Colour Cell and Boo arcs, either, so even those who are looking to go that route will come up empty.

Darn it, I just got from Saiyan, to Frieza, to Android arc, and there's no manga site that has both of them

[Robo4900]

While you can get the Saiyan and Freeza arcs in full colour as a part of Viz's Shonen Jump service for $2 a month, Viz haven't actually licensed the Cell, Boo, "Boyhood", or Piccolo arcs at all. It seems the licensing is just too awkward for them, since they have to license each arc separately.

So, you don't really have any options other than the standard editions.

For the record, I don't think there are even any pirate versions that put the Viz translation on the Full Colour Cell and Boo arcs, either, so even those who are looking to go that route will come up empty.

Darn it, I just got from Saiyan, to Frieza, to Android arc, and there's no manga site that has both of them

Well, again, if you just want to finish the run, and don't mind losing the full colour, you can finish it for $2 a month from Viz. You can even go back and read the first 194 chapters that you skipped.

[Young-Jah]

Nah, maybe I can read the arc in the Non Full Color Manga, the Black and White Dragon Ball Manga.

Cause, I got passed reading chapter 1 - 43 of the Dragon Ball Super Manga, so now I'm finally at current of the Moro arc.

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[Robo4900]

Nah, maybe I can read the arc in the Non Full Color Manga, the Black and White Dragon Ball Manga.

You misunderstand; that's exactly what I mean.

Sorry if I wasn't clear, but on Viz's service, you can get the non-full colour version of the entire 519-chapter original run, in black and white.

[Young-Jah]

Nah, maybe I can read the arc in the Non Full Color Manga, the Black and White Dragon Ball Manga.

You misunderstand; that's exactly what I mean.

Sorry if I wasn't clear, but on Viz's service, you can get the non-full colour version of the entire 519-chapter original run, in black and white.

Well, I do have a Manga Geek App

[Young-Jah]

Nah, maybe I can read the arc in the Non Full Color Manga, the Black and White Dragon Ball Manga.

You misunderstand; that's exactly what I mean.

Sorry if I wasn't clear, but on Viz's service, you can get the non-full colour version of the entire 519-chapter original run, in black and white.

Plus, at the end of Chapter 25, there's a art of Ichigo Kurosaki from Bleach by my boy, Tite Kubo

[Young-Jah]

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[Zeon_Grunt]

I'm 90% certain the staff on this site actively discourages the sharing or discussion of illegal manga/anime sites and apps. Viz is the only legal way to get any translated version of Dragon Ball, at least in the US.

[Young-Jah]

I'm 90% certain the staff on this site actively discourages the sharing or discussion of illegal manga/anime sites and apps. Viz is the only legal way to get any translated version of Dragon Ball, at least in the US.

Well, I don't have any money, and I only watch the anime, which changes a lot in the manga

[Zeon_Grunt]

I'm broke most of the time too, so I sympathize with that plight, but that doesn't change this site's stance on sharing illegal sites.

I didn't make the rules, I'm not even enforcing them, I'm just informing you that this isn't the place for this kind of request.

[Robo4900]

Well, I do have a Manga Geek App

Manga Geek is a piracy thing, though.

If nothing else, personally I find it difficult to justify pirating the manga when the Viz thing is only $2 to access... All of Viz's Shonen Jump titles, in their entirety, at all times, from an app and a webpage, for a month. Even if you can't spare much money, this is cheaper than a cup of coffee.
And even if that doesn't sway you, Dragon Ball's Viz manga has never really been something that goes around the piracy scene anyway; I guarantee you what you'd be reading on Manga Geek or whatever else would be a shitty scanlation from the '90s using comic sans typeface, full of mistranslations and other errors, and artificially filled with swears for a TOTALLY RADICAL EDGY FLAVOUR or something else like that. And probably a bunch of it would be flipped around for western comics-style L-to-R reading.
And they've got JoJo, Yu-Gi-Oh, Dr Slump, Attack On Titan, Death Note, etc. It's a pretty sweet deal.

Just saiyan'.

[Zeon_Grunt]

And even if that doesn't sway you, Dragon Ball's Viz manga has never really been something that goes around the piracy scene anyway; I guarantee you what you'd be reading on Manga Geek or whatever else would be a shitty scanlation from the '90s using comic sans typeface, full of mistranslations and other errors, and artificially filled with swears for a TOTALLY RADICAL EDGY FLAVOUR or something else like that. And probably a bunch of it would be flipped around for western comics-style L-to-R reading.
And they've got JoJo, Yu-Gi-Oh, Dr Slump, Attack On Titan, Death Note, etc. It's a pretty sweet deal.

Just saiyan'.

Just throwing it out there, but the scans online of the full color manga (at least Saiyan and Freeza arcs) are scans of the Viz editions, or at least the lettering, font, and spacing are indistinguishable and cleanup is invisible to spot. I also think there was a concerted effort a few years ago to replace those old 90s scans with cleaner, more accurate ones. From what I've seen, they've gotten to Dragon Ball chapter 131 or so before sites revert back to the older scans.

[KBABZ]

Just throwing it out there, but the scans online of the full color manga (at least Saiyan and Freeza arcs) are scans of the Viz editions, or at least the lettering, font, and spacing are indistinguishable and cleanup is invisible to spot. I also think there was a concerted effort a few years ago to replace those old 90s scans with cleaner, more accurate ones. From what I've seen, they've gotten to Dragon Ball chapter 131 or so before sites revert back to the older scans.

I have the (limited amount of) English Full Colours on-hand, and while the font, spacing and whatnot are different, the actual dialogue is the same. Theoretically you could lay a B/W page over a Full Colour page, make sure they're lined up, and use a masking tool on the speech bubbles to paste the B/W translation into the untranslated Full Colours. That's a LOT of work but I'm honestly surprised no anime piracy site has ever thought to do that.

[Zeon_Grunt]

Just throwing it out there, but the scans online of the full color manga (at least Saiyan and Freeza arcs) are scans of the Viz editions, or at least the lettering, font, and spacing are indistinguishable and cleanup is invisible to spot. I also think there was a concerted effort a few years ago to replace those old 90s scans with cleaner, more accurate ones. From what I've seen, they've gotten to Dragon Ball chapter 131 or so before sites revert back to the older scans.

I have the (limited amount of) English Full Colours on-hand, and while the font, spacing and whatnot are different, the actual dialogue is the same. Theoretically you could lay a B/W page over a Full Colour page, make sure they're lined up, and use a masking tool on the speech bubbles to paste the B/W translation into the untranslated Full Colours. That's a LOT of work but I'm honestly surprised no anime piracy site has ever thought to do that.

It's likely less that no one has thought of it and more that Viz's translations aren't perfect (as Herm's translations prove) and as you mentioned, that's a lot of work. Probably more work than what they're doing now.

[Robo4900]

Just throwing it out there, but the scans online of the full color manga (at least Saiyan and Freeza arcs) are scans of the Viz editions, or at least the lettering, font, and spacing are indistinguishable and cleanup is invisible to spot. I also think there was a concerted effort a few years ago to replace those old 90s scans with cleaner, more accurate ones. From what I've seen, they've gotten to Dragon Ball chapter 131 or so before sites revert back to the older scans.

I have the (limited amount of) English Full Colours on-hand, and while the font, spacing and whatnot are different, the actual dialogue is the same. Theoretically you could lay a B/W page over a Full Colour page, make sure they're lined up, and use a masking tool on the speech bubbles to paste the B/W translation into the untranslated Full Colours. That's a LOT of work but I'm honestly surprised no anime piracy site has ever thought to do that.

Thanks for the clarifications, you two, but I was referring to the non-full colour editions.

And, I'm gonna be honest, "replac[ing] those old 90s scans with cleaner, more accurate ones" kinda just makes me a little angry. People devoting resources to translating a manga Viz has had official releases of for roughly 20 years so people who choose to pirate the manga instead of buying it can have a slightly better reading experience, instead of scanlating stuff like Victory Mission which has no full translation?
Yeah, that kinda just makes me angry.
Though, of course, as noted, that only goes up to a certain point before it stops, so... Still doesn't address the point that if you read Dragon Ball's manga online via piracy, you're getting a pretty shitty experience in exchange for your refusal to pay $2.

[KBABZ]

It's likely less that no one has thought of it and more that Viz's translations aren't perfect (as Herm's translations prove) and as you mentioned, that's a lot of work. Probably more work than what they're doing now.

Unless you're translating it yourself, a piracy website almost certainly has NO qualms about translation intricacies, IMO.

[Zeon_Grunt]

People devoting resources to translating a manga Viz has had official releases of for roughly 20 years so people who choose to pirate the manga instead of buying it can have a slightly better reading experience, instead of scanlating stuff like Victory Mission which has no full translation?
Yeah, that kinda just makes me angry.
Though, of course, as noted, that only goes up to a certain point before it stops, so... Still doesn't address the point that if you read Dragon Ball's manga online via piracy, you're getting a pretty shitty experience in exchange for your refusal to pay $2.

I mean, just because Viz translated it, doesn't mean everyone's accepted their translation of it, especially since they seemed to have had a "close enough" attitude towards the translations (if the amount of corrections Herms had to make are any indication). For instance, even as recently as the 3-in-1 releases, they still call Vegetto "Vegerot," which sounds awful regardless of how much more sense it makes to the US naming conventions.

It's not really a "slightly" better reading experience. Having relied on those old scans back in the days before I first got a job and having seen the quality of the replaced scans, it makes a world of a difference. The new scans are crystal clear whereas the old ones looked like absolute garbage and it was impossible to get a clear look at almost any panel. Whoever did the Boo arc back then literally just plopped the books onto a scanner (seemingly while trying to avoid damaging the spines), highlighted all the "black" parts in photoshop with the auto-select tool and went over it with an even coat of black, then put plain white blocks over the word bubbles and typed in their translations.

This process resulted in not only huge shadows along the edges of the pages where they met the spines, but those shadows being colored in during the editing phase. The Majin Vegeta fight was memorably bad as there were some pages where whole panels were almost completely blacked out. That's not even bringing up how many panels in the old scans literally had <untranslated> in the bubbles.

That said, yeah, at the current point, reading for free is an incredibly stupid idea because Viz is basically asking for the second lowest price anyone could reasonably ask for a paid service and the replacement scans aren't done yet (or have been outright cancelled, idk). That said, it should be noted that these scan sites definitely have an incentive to update the old scans now that it's relatively easy to get clean ones to use. Contrary to what a lot of them claim publicly, they couldn't give less of a shit about whether you support the official releases or not. They want to get as many people reading/watching through THEIR service as they can.

[Robo4900]

For instance, even as recently as the 3-in-1 releases, they still call Vegetto "Vegerot," which sounds awful regardless of how much more sense it makes to the US naming conventions.

You think Vegerot sounds awful, many people think Kuririn sounds awful, personally I think "Bulla", the American Evil Dragon names, a bunch of the Super name decisions ("Beerus", spelling Geran as "Jiren", etc.), the "Buu" and "Frieza" spellings, a huge chunk of the romanised-rather-than-translated-or-adapted subtitle terms ("Ryugadani Valley" from episode 2, various instances of "Tenkaichi"/"Tenkaichi Budoukai" in the pre-first tournament training, "Kami"/"Kami-sama", etc. etc.), and various other well-established, well-accepted name decisions sound stupid.

Every Dragon Ball translation has its own particular naming conventions, and each one has its merits. Deciding a translation is bad just because you personally find these names don't roll of the tongue as well as the names that you're used to from the version you grew up with strikes me as a particularly immature way of criticising.
It would be much like if I said all of Funimation's work is unwatchable garbage simply for the reason that Funimation's in-house cast is not the cast I grew up on. (Then again, one could argue there's some truth to this; I don't like Funimation's cast, and maybe that is a nostalgia-based bias. But that's a whole other discussion that I'm not in the mood to get into right now)

Granted, there are many weird decisions made in Viz's translation... It's far from perfect. But personally, I don't think Viz's work is anywhere near bad enough that I would rather pirate it than pay $2 a month to access it.
I'd probably be much more eager to pay more and buy it in print if there was a general touch-up of the translation, but as it stands, Viz's translation is perfectly okay.

That said, yeah, at the current point, reading for free is an incredibly stupid idea because Viz is basically asking for the second lowest price anyone could reasonably ask for a paid service and the replacement scans aren't done yet (or have been outright cancelled, idk).

This is ultimately the main point I was making.
If you don't want to spend $2 reading the manga (again, this is the price of like... A cup of coffee every two months), are you sure you really even care enough to read it at all?... That's my view. So, I don't see any value in these scanlations.

I will admit I could see a small amount of worth when you still had to pay through the nose to actually get the complete manga (from my research, the cheapest option before the Shonen Jump service was something like £250 for the whole run?), since it's a very, very large amount of money for what ultimately is a deeply flawed presentation of the original (though my issues are less with the translation, and more with the fact the 3-in-1s are still censored despite claiming otherwise, and no edition retains more than half the original colour pages), which I guess is where this stuff began.
But, even then, I still take issue with people putting so much work into scanlating a manga with a perfectly serviceable official translation available, when there are so many completely-untranslated manga (even within Dragon Ball -- there's Victory Mission, SD, I believe a couple of the other Heroes mangas are also untranslated...) which groups could work on instead.

That said, it should be noted that these scan sites definitely have an incentive to update the old scans now that it's relatively easy to get clean ones to use. Contrary to what a lot of them claim publicly, they couldn't give less of a shit about whether you support the official releases or not. They want to get as many people reading/watching through THEIR service as they can.

Sure.
Manga piracy sites are just as full of ads as any other service that makes money for its owners. Naturally they would want to compete with the official thing so they can maximise their own ad revenue.