Has Anyone Ever Questioned About Son Goku Black's Zenkais?

[Steven Bloodriver]

As in the case of Son Goku Black from the Dragon Ball Super Anime?

Like how Son Goku Black somehow being able to instantly heal from damage and gain a Zenkai right in the midst of battle?

Like when Son Goku and Future Trunks had hit Son Goku Black, but only for Son Goku Black to have gotten stronger from instantly having healed from each blow being landed on him by the likes of Son Goku and Future Trunks?

Which shouldn't have been possible as none of the Kais, Supreme Kais, and especially Present Zamasu ever had displayed the very own ability to have naturally regenerated from any damage that they would have received right in the middle of a battle.

As well as the fact that Saiyans are also unable to regenerate from wounds all on their very own, with an exception being the Super Saiyan God form from the Dragon Ball Super Anime.

But only for the Battle of Gods Saga of the Dragon Ball Super Anime from the ability of the Super Saiyan God form to have regenerated it's user's very own body from any injuries sustained whilst in combat having been promptly taken right out of the picture in the form of a retcon.

And yet, despite all of this, as in Son Goku Black from the Dragon Ball Super Anime being able to have regenerated and gain a Zenkai in his base form and then later on in his Super Saiyan Rosé form despite the fact that he shouldn't be able to since Son Goku and Present Zamasu didn't have any sort of natural healing factor to begin with is going to be defended by certain Internet Trolls like Salad Saiyan...

[ZombieVito]

Black never healed damage. He just keeps unlocking more of Goku's power until episode 61 when he caps.

Look at episodes 63 and 64. Vegeta surpasses him and damages him but he never gets stronger again like before. Black actually has to apply rage into himself in order to get stronger and surpass Vegeta, making his Scythe.

[Koitsukai]

Zenkai works funny on Black. He doesn't even need to get close to death to get one, he got one after a little spar with SS2 Goku, he got one while Goku was beating him up.

Also, what's with using the full name of things? I'm not against it, there is nothing wrong with it, I just find it funny and I'm curious lol.

[LoganForkHands73]

In the manga, Toyotaro actually remembered that Zamasu would naturally have healing powers, which Future Zamasu would use on Goku Black every time the latter was badly beaten in order to exploit zenkai boosts. That was a nice tidbit.

In the anime, Black is just a sadomasochist who delights in receiving pain and exploiting on-the-spot zenkais (and all manner of other last-minute bullshit powers, let's be honest), 'cause I guess he's just that good. Zenkai boosting was always a bullshit plot mechanic anyway, introduced in the Freeza arc to justify the protagonists' insane leaps in power. It didn't suspend my disbelief that much for Black to have enough pain tolerance to abuse it like crazy and turn it against the heroes. It works as a funny commentary on previous DBZ story arcs seemingly promoting the benefits of excessive masochism.

Comparing the two interpretations, it's all in their differing demeanours -- when Manga Black gets beaten, he rages out. When Anime Black gets beaten, he smiles and shrugs it off.

Also... Son Goku Black?

[SupremeKai25]

He's not growing stronger, he's only discovering his true pool of power. He always had that strength, but fighting and studying Goku allows him to become more attuned with his body and access that pool of strength he has. As well Zamasu was a genius and fighting prodigy, so he is able to masterfully utilize Goku's body to its full potential.

Also, huh, who even is Salad Saiyan lol.

[Steven Bloodriver]

He's not growing stronger, he's only discovering his true pool of power. He always had that strength, but fighting and studying Goku allows him to become more attuned with his body and access that pool of strength he has. As well Zamasu was a genius and fighting prodigy, so he is able to masterfully utilize Goku's body to its full potential.

Also, huh, who even is Salad Saiyan lol.

Salad Saiyan is an Internet Troll masquerading as a Dragon Ball YouTuber. Who just loves nerfing the Z-Fighters and their allies, while also at the very exact same time, giving the protagonists' very own enemies bullshit powers and abilities that they never had in canon.

Like saying that even training the Super Saiyan 4 form for 7 years straight isn't anywhere near enough to defeat Majin Buu.

And having Majin Buu being able to regenerate from being attacked by 3 Super Saiyan 4s at the very exact same time.

[Peach]

I didn't see it as him getting a zekai. I saw it more as him learning more and more about Goku's body and bringing out his max potential.

[Aim]

He's not growing stronger, he's only discovering his true pool of power. He always had that strength, but fighting and studying Goku allows him to become more attuned with his body and access that pool of strength he has. As well Zamasu was a genius and fighting prodigy, so he is able to masterfully utilize Goku's body to its full potential.

Also, huh, who even is Salad Saiyan lol.

Characters point out that his ki was increasing as he fort, he did get stronger, which allowed him to use Son Goku's body better.

[ankokudaishogun]

Characters point out that his ki was increasing as he fort, he did get stronger, which allowed him to use Son Goku's body better.

it's likely the reverse: he used Goku's body better, which enabled him to increase his Ki

It's the reversal from the manga: in the manga, it's Goku's body which has to adapt itself to Zamasu' soul, via Zenkai-
in the anime, it's Zamasu's soul\mind that has to learn to use better Goku's body

[Aim]

Characters point out that his ki was increasing as he fort, he did get stronger, which allowed him to use Son Goku's body better.

it's likely the reverse: he used Goku's body better, which enabled him to increase his Ki

It's the reversal from the manga: in the manga, it's Goku's body which has to adapt itself to Zamasu' soul, via Zenkai-
in the anime, it's Zamasu's soul\mind that has to learn to use better Goku's body

That's not inherently true. One could argue that there was already an initial disconnect between the two and they both had to work to become compatible, however, Black didn't state his Soul had to get used to learning Son Goku's body in the anime.

[miguelnuva1]

He's not growing stronger, he's only discovering his true pool of power. He always had that strength, but fighting and studying Goku allows him to become more attuned with his body and access that pool of strength he has. As well Zamasu was a genius and fighting prodigy, so he is able to masterfully utilize Goku's body to its full potential.

Also, huh, who even is Salad Saiyan lol.

Salad Saiyan is an Internet Troll masquerading as a Dragon Ball YouTuber. Who just loves nerfing the Z-Fighters and their allies, while also at the very exact same time, giving the protagonists' very own enemies bullshit powers and abilities that they never had in canon.

Like saying that even training the Super Saiyan 4 form for 7 years straight isn't anywhere near enough to defeat Majin Buu.

And having Majin Buu being able to regenerate from being attacked by 3 Super Saiyan 4s at the very exact same time.

SS4 Goku and Gohan should have one shot Buu. SS4 Vegeta for example in the same arc would have lost to Buu so it depends.

Regardless he isn't a troll he just does what its and doesn't follow all the rules of Dragonball.